sweetness09 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 First off, let me say that Clinton Portis is my favorite Redskin and an elite running back. My point is not to bash him or like so many have lately or to claim that he is Mr. Injury all of a sudden or even expendable. With over 18,000 views concerning a potential and perhaps completely bogus trade with the Lions for Ble and a 2nd overall pick, I've been entertaining potential scenarios and doing a little homework on Adrian Peterson. First, I would like anybody who does not know of or would like to see more of Adrian Peterson to please check out the following website. http://www.adrian-peterson.com/ Review the highlights since most of us either aren't huge Oklahoma fans, or simply don't have 20 hours a weekend to watch every college game. This guy has been compared to Eric Dickerson and he is the real deal. If for some reason Clinton did unfortunately get traded away and we were somehow able to land this guy, we wouldn't miss a beat. AP is special...perhaps even more filthy than our beloved CP. He is certainly a rare blend of size, power, speed, toughness, and grit. Watch how hard he hits holes, uses good vision, clubs people with straight arms, effortlessly makes defenders miss, and accelerates away from defenses, over defenses, and through them to make big plays. I realize that many of these highlights are just that...highlights, some of which are against average competition at best. Does anybody else have anything on Adrian Peterson? Ladell and him sharing carries really doesn't seem like the end of the world if Clinton's con's are starting to slowly outweigh his pro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 That move makes this pathetic organization only continue to tread water. We need to stop messing with positions of strength. We need to be thankful we have Portis and stop wishing for the flavor of the month. Any newcomers need to be defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyMalaise Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You do know that Peterson broke his collarbone this year, missed most the season right? He has been injury-plagued since playing for Oklahoma. However, I have thought about using that extra pick if the Skins stupidly do decide to trade CP. I hope it never happens though. He is a stud, but has had injury problems as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 yea hes a great RB , but he has been hurt more than portis and he is unproven in the NFL , portis is proven ...why on earth would we get rid of portis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillskinsfan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 That move makes this pathetic organization only continue to tread water. We need to stop messing with positions of strength. We need to be thankful we have Portis and stop wishing for the flavor of the month. Any newcomers need to be defenders. finally a football genuis:notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotherz Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 yea hes a great RB , but he has been hurt more than portis and he is unproven in the NFL , portis is proven ...why on earth would we get rid of portis I have no idea whether the rumor has ANY merit whatsoever but if that trade happened the last thing I would do with the second pick overall is get a halfback. That would negate the entire point of such a trade. That trade would essentially signal that the FO believes that Betts is a legitimate starter and his stretch at starter would certainly support that position. The idea behind such a trade would be that we have too much power at one position to allow us to have such glaring deficiencies at other positions. You would not trade portis away and replace him with another back that is unproven when Portis is obviously a safer bet at the position. If such a deal did happen either trade the #2 pick down to pick up more picks, and/or get Willis at MLB ALONG with Gaines Adams with the 6 or some combination of trading the picks around to make that happen (which would be possible with BOTH the 2nd and 6th pick in the draft). With Dre Bly, Gaines Adams, Willis you have seriously bolstered the 31st defense in the league and your starting HB is Betts. That is about as good as you can ask for if you have to let go of CP. The last thing in my opinion you would do is get rid of a proven top 5 half back to replace him with an unproven kid from the draft with a #2 overall pick. Quite frankly if Adrian Peterson was how they would use that pick I say don't make the deal. (Again, presuming that detroit would actually be stupid enough to do that). HAIL! :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Ummm the guy needs to learn how to run before we mention him being the real deal. Can he be more upright while running? I must admit he does have a lot of "potential" but he needs to fix that running style before we ordain him as the next Eric Dicerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanatic Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 No, No...and um...NO. ~ did you see the game where my Oregon Ducks beat the Sooners this season? ....just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenandSix:Unacceptable Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Brotherz hit the nail. You do not take a top 5 running back if you trade portis. Portis is a top 5 running back. The move would signal the staffs confidence in Betts as the starter and would also bring with it the necessity to bring in a second string running back who is not a bum either. Irregardless, I doubt that the trade mentioned is possible and if the plan is to batter teams with the ground game, Portis/Betts sounds pretty solid. However, have you noticed that teams that seem to go overboard at one position seem to get injuries that negate that depth- ie Chiefs Holmes/Johnson or Detroits WR fiasco. I would try to get an adequate back up and choose to stick with Portis or Betts as the starter. We need help on D and an infusion of youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 yea hes a great RB , but he has been hurt more than portis and he is unproven in the NFL , portis is proven ...why on earth would we get rid of portis Just look at the dumb moves our FO has done before... They better not trade away Portis... I think that they realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Adrian Peterson would be the perfect back for us............to facilitate a trade down. That's true no matter whether the idiotic Detroit rumor is true or not. As for Warpath's comments about Peterson's upright running style, have you ever seen Eric Dickerson run? I don't think anyone in the history of the NFL has ever run more upright than Dickerson. Were it not for his upright running style, Dickerson might have actually been good the NFL. Oh, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funguy1286 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The guy can play. Ever seen Clinton move like that? If you honestly can tell me you have find me a video that proves it. Edit- Even though the guy is a beast and in my opinon much better than portis, I do not believe we should draft him. Im still in the trade portis and start betts boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funguy1286 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Adrian Peterson would be the perfect back for us............to facilitate a trade down. That's true no matter whether the idiotic Detroit rumor is true or not.As for Warpath's comments about Peterson's upright running style, have you ever seen Eric Dickerson run? I don't think anyone in the history of the NFL has ever run more upright than Dickerson. Were it not for his upright running style, Dickerson might have actually been good the NFL. Oh, wait. Plus its better than Portis' style of leaning so farforward that he falls down without being touched! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 No no no. Your making me want Adrien Peterson. I LOVE the draft, and I HATE the draft. *I still adore Clinton Portis, more than anybody else on the offense, and tied with Sean Taylor for favorite player on team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness09 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 It's pretty funny all the talk about him running too tall with the rock. Last time I checked world class sprinters also ran pretty upright. Eddie George and Eric Dickerson seemed to do okay. Now I realize football is a different sport, but some people are making AP out to be a robot or something. I just think this is a weak argument given the fact that the man is 6'2". As mentioned, I'd rather have somebody run too upright as opposed to a back that runs too low and falls without being touched. Again, I am not saying I wanna see CP go or that AP is a better back. I am just encouraging people to not be so close-minded and at least check the dude out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinzelwashington Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 the way gibbs uses portis, porits is going to be injury prone. portis natural running sttyle is to duck dodge and run, not lower ur head and push. i would take that trade. we need as much good defenders as possibe. but then againn see redskins football without portis. just wouldnt be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyMalaise Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 This guy will most likely be a good NFL back. Look for him to probably go to Cleveland. They're like in love with him. For the Texan's fans sake, I hope Houston gets him to diffuse some of the Reggie Bush fiasco. IMO, AP is more of an NFL feature running back, carry the load, kind of runner while Bush can get 10-15 carries, line up in the slot, return punts,etc. After passing on the most hyped prospect in a while, I think if Houston picked AP, it would go a long way to please their fans. BTW, he would look great in Burgundy and Gold, but the only backs I would take over my man CP is LT,LJ, and maybe Stephen Jackson. Ok maybe not Stephen Jackson. PORTIS IS OUR GUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkekoa Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 People want to mention Portis as injury prone but this is the first substantial injury ridden year for him. As for Peterson, he fell into the end zone and broke his collar bone (sounds like Charles Rogers to me) and he missed most of last season with injury. Unless your name is Ladanian, don't take a RB early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Ah, Peterson and his end-zone flopping, collar breaking antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 If we actually are dumb enough to trade away CP, which is pretty clear that it won't happen, we need to replace him with Peterson. Hopefully come draft time we can pick up Peterson by trading down and picking up some other picks. I still say keep Portis, sign Clements, and draft defense (Safety,LB,D'line---doesn't matter) Just get a solid pick, we may still want to trade down even just a few picks to get another pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Honestly, let me start by saying that I haven't posted here in months because of the utter ignorance of most conversations on this site; sadly, things here have taken a turn for the worse. That said, your post was right there: a great rebuttal to a topic that was surely on the minds of all here at extremeskins. Moreover, I would agree completely with your comments; Peterson is gonna be a fantastic back in this league, regardless of where he goes. If he can stay healthy, he'll be an impact player. If we could swing a solid, yet aging corner in Bly, and some fresh legs in Peterson for Portis and his huge contract, it might be a solid move. Not to mention Betts' recent contract extension... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hervoicehoneyed Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 These threads make me laugh. A forum member hyping yet another "meast" college player? Say it ain't so! Remember all the Mike Williams threads? Enough said. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 First off, trading CP makes no sense to me at all. To even consider trading this guy would mean we would have to get the deal of a life time. Second, if our FO were to go through with such a unlikely scenario, like someone else said, Adrian Peterson would not be one of our draft picks. We have to many other positions of need on this team, especially ones that require getting younger. It is my opinion that Peterson could end up in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, NY Jets could trade up, Houston, Tampa Bay, or (unlikely, but possible) the NY Giants trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 No, No...and um...NO. ~ did you see the game where my Oregon Ducks beat the Sooners this season? ....just wondering. Oregon Ducks? Beat Sooners? How could you possibly brag about that game? That has got to be the worst piece of evidence used in a debate I have ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 please tell me this is a joke out of all the positions we are talking about RB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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