PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The following is a list of college Juniors that have to decide in the coming months whether to go pro or stay in college: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma Jamarcus Russell, QB, LSU Calvin Johnson, WR, GT Sam Baker, OT, Michigan Jake Long, OT, Michigan <----already announced he is staying. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh Reggie Nelson, S, Florida Marshawn Lynch, RB, California <----announced he is leaving Greg Olsen, te, Miami <----leaving Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss <----leaving Question is this: You go to college so you can get a good job when you are done. These guys ALL stand to come out of college with the ability to get a job that is going to pay MILLIONS of dollars. So why stay? Note: Please use this thread to discuss the question posed, not to speculate on whether the players mentioned are staying or going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins1 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why stay? Let's say you have a career-ending injury in your first year in the NFL. You lose your contract, and you haven't finished college. Stay, get your degree, and then go to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasRedskinFan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why stay? Let's say you have a career-ending injury in your first year in the NFL. You lose your contract, and you haven't finished college. Stay, get your degree, and then go to the NFL. Wrong place for this thread, but anywho... What if your career-ending injury occurs in your final year in college? Ehh, I'm not sure what I'd do. More than likely most athletes will go somewhere and coach, so I'd probably leave my junior year, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why stay? Let's say you have a career-ending injury in your first year in the NFL. You lose your contract, and you haven't finished college. Stay, get your degree, and then go to the NFL. then you get injured your last year of a college and youre stuck with a degree you most likely wont use cause you played way too much football. come out as a junior, you can always go back and finish one year of school. get your money while you can and save it or invest it so if injury occurs you have financial saftey. of course, most of these guys dont think that way, theyd rather buy hummers with diamond spinners and grills and they blow their knee out and never have a job ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 There IS no good reason to stay. If you want to win a nat'l championship, fine... but you're always one play away from a career ending injury. You can always go back and get your degree. That's no big deal. People get in a twist about leaving college early... I'm not sure why. Those kids are smart to get their payday, if they can, while they can. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why stay? Let's say you have a career-ending injury in your first year in the NFL. You lose your contract, and you haven't finished college. Stay, get your degree, and then go to the NFL. If you leave and get hurt your first year in the pros, you can easily re-enroll and finish up. And, oh, yeah, you get to keep your signing bonus, which is likely a million dollars or more. Which is nice. Vice versa, if you STAY and get hurt, you get nothing. You still end up with that degree, but are out MILLIONS of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Clause Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why stay? Let's say you have a career-ending injury in your first year in the NFL. You lose your contract, and you haven't finished college. Stay, get your degree, and then go to the NFL. Then you have a multi-million dollar signing bonus to fall back on. Go back to college with million of dollars to complete your final year. Could you imagine living in a college town as a 21 year old millionaire? Good god that would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Then you have a multi-million dollar signing bonus to fall back on. Go back to college with million of dollars to complete your final year. Could you imagine living in a college town as a 21 year old millionaire? Good god that would be insane. :rotflmao: That almost sounds BETTER than being a pro-football player. Can you IMAGINE the ASS??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrell1106 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 It all depends on your prospective draft ranking. If you are possible top 10 talent you probably should go, ask for abotu 35%-45% of your salary as signing bonus and if you do get injured you're still a millioniare. Then go back to school after the fact if you feel like it. With the advent of player insurance policies most of the players you listed will end up being millionaires whether they make it to the NFL or not. Also, most injures are recoverable, maybe w/ the exception of spinal injuries (and of course it depends on the heart and determination of the individual trying to recover). So while many people use that analogy, how often does it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzpackage Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 But if the scouts aren't projecting you as a 1st or 2nd rounder, wouldn't it be more important to weigh your options(i.e., is the DT class better or worse next year?). Someone could miss out on an even bigger payday by leaving too early as well. Plus, college is a hell of a lot of fun. I miss those days every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 :rotflmao:That almost sounds BETTER than being a pro-football player. Can you IMAGINE the ASS??????? it would be worn down to a nub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 But if the scouts aren't projecting you as a 1st or 2nd rounder, wouldn't it be more important to weigh your options(i.e., is the DT class better or worse next year?). Someone could miss out on an even bigger payday by leaving too early as well.Yeah, I think it can be a real complicated decision financially for some players. If Jason Campbell had come out his junior year there is no way he would have been picked in the first round. He probably made himself millions by staying another year....on the other hand there's Matt Leinart who cost himself millions of dollars by staying another year - although he probably partied like crazy that year ... but he knocked up some basketball player ... she was really hot though ... yeah, it's a complicated decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 But if the scouts aren't projecting you as a 1st or 2nd rounder, wouldn't it be more important to weigh your options(i.e., is the DT class better or worse next year?). Someone could miss out on an even bigger payday by leaving too early as well.Plus, college is a hell of a lot of fun. I miss those days every day! An excellent point. But look at Matt Leinhart. If he had come out early, he would CERTAINLY have gone first overall. He was the Heisman trophy winner and the 1st overall pick was QB Alex Smith. Leinhart was clearly better than Smith, played in a pro-style offense, just won a cship, etc etc etc. He stayed and got SCREWED! (which, at USC, isnt really a bad thing. ) Gotta suck to be that guy during the draft that slips, and everytime someone gets picked, the camera pans over to you to see the look on your face as you are losing millions. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatboy41 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 you stay because you have the possibility at having a serious injury that would not allow you to play football anymore and then all you are is a person who could've been great in the NFL with no degree. People aren't going to give you an amazing job just because you "almost" made it in the NFL and had bad luck. There are many things to weigh on leaving college early or staying in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 you stay because you have the possibility at having a serious injury that would not allow you to play football anymore and then all you are is a person who could've been great in the NFL with no degree. People aren't going to give you an amazing job just because you "almost" made it in the NFL and had bad luck. There are many things to weigh on leaving college early or staying in college. As mentioned earlier, if you get hurt, you can always go back to college and finish up and get your degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The following is a list of college Juniors that have to decide in the coming months whether to go pro or stay in college:Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma Jamarcus Russell, QB, LSU Calvin Johnson, WR, GT Sam Baker, OT, Michigan Jake Long, OT, Michigan <----already announced he is staying. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh Reggie Nelson, S, Florida Marshawn Lynch, RB, California <----announced he is leaving Greg Olsen, te, Miami <----leaving Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss <----leaving Question is this: You go to college so you can get a good job when you are done. These guys ALL stand to come out of college with the ability to get a job that is going to pay MILLIONS of dollars. So why stay? Note: Please use this thread to discuss the question posed, not to speculate on whether the players mentioned are staying or going. Well there is a big difference in salary depending on when you get drafted. So if a pleyer feels he can dramatically incrase his draft position then it might make sense to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderMustGo Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think the only reason people stay is because of where they fit in a draft class. Take Brian Brohm. If he comes out this year, he could be anywhere from the 3-5 QB behind Quinn, Russell, Troy Smith, and Drew Stanton. There will probably be no more than 3 QBs taken in the first round, so its possible he could be a second round pick. Now, he knows he will be drafted and make money. But that money is probably late first to second round money. If he goes back, we won't have Brady, T. Smith or Stanton to compete with in next year's draft. And if JaMarcus Russell declares this year, then he goes into the next season as the favored top QB prospect with the only competition being Henne. So if he goes back and Russell goes pro, he probably goes into next year's draft as the #1 or #2 QB. Being drafted at the top of the first in '08 means a whole lot, lot more money for Brohm than going at the end of the first or second (or god forbid later) in '07. Of course, the risk of a possible injury is there. The risk that he will completely stink it up is there--although I would think that is unlikely. So there are risks to going back. But whether the expected rewards is greater than the risks is a function of how risk adverse a player is. So the only real question with respect to whether to stay or go pro is 'what is your expected ranking/round and how risk adverse are you.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Question is this: You go to college so you can get a good job when you are done. These guys ALL stand to come out of college with the ability to get a job that is going to pay MILLIONS of dollars. So why stay? Why indeed... If the player is content with their perspective value, then by all means go for it... Money = options and many of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 As mentioned earlier, if you get hurt, you can always go back to college and finish up and get your degree. You can, but it gets harder as you get older. Once you get out, it is hard to get motivated to go back to school. Also, if you wash out and don't get the money, it may be impossible to go back. If you view things out there that you are going to be near the top of your draft class, then go right ahead. But, some players overrate their value, or listen to the wrong people and think they are a 1st round pick when they are really a 3rd round pick. Then, there is the dice roll that are the postseason all-star games and the combine. If you have high stock, you don't usually participate in most of these, but it could hurt you if you have a bad day. Course, there are those who feel that they don't have a choice, because they have a family to support (either their own or their parents). If you do, you better make sure that you'll make a team. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You have the classic examples in Matt Leinart, Maurice Clarett, or Tennessee cornerback Jason Allen. You could also come out. For any of you who do not know the story here it is. Jason Allen . I would try and get my education and the worst you can do is come out of college with a good degree. I would hate to mention a certain Congressman. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You can, but it gets harder as you get older. Once you get out, it is hard to get motivated to go back to school. Also, if you wash out and don't get the money, it may be impossible to go back. I think you're confusing a 35 year old man who is working 8-10 hours/day to feed his family trying to get motivated to give up his weekends -vs- a retiring athlete with millions in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You stay if you can improve your draft stock with one more year There are many examples of guys leaving too soon and being drafted in the 6th or 7th rounds, where had they stayed they could have been first day picks Other then that, if you are a first rounder you go and get that money. Even if you are a 2nd rounder (Portis) But if you can earn millions more by staying in school one more year, do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You stay if you can improve your draft stock with one more yearThere are many examples of guys leaving too soon and being drafted in the 6th or 7th rounds, where had they stayed they could have been first day picks Other then that, if you are a first rounder you go and get that money. Even if you are a 2nd rounder (Portis) But if you can earn millions more by staying in school one more year, do it Exactly... there are numerous examples of people's draft stock lowering after staying another year. Fact is... there just isn't any good reason to stay in school, other than if you want to win a championship. You can ALWAYS go back. If your draft stock is high, and you have a chance to get paid... leave. Only a fool would stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 So the only real question with respect to whether to stay or go pro is 'what is your expected ranking/round and how risk adverse are you.' Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think you're confusing a 35 year old man who is working 8-10 hours/day to feed his family trying to get motivated to give up his weekends -vs- a retiring athlete with millions in the bank. Not really. When most people go to college, they have already had 12 years straight of schooling. When you have been off for a while working, it is hard to get back into the mindset of going to classes again. Course, being a pro football athlete may be different, since they have to go to class as well. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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