GOSKINS_08 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was thinking, what would be a great way to use both Portis and Betts next season? How about putting Betts and Portis in the game at the same time? In the backfield split Portis to the left and Betts to the right, so either one could run the ball or go out for a pass..Dont you think that could be very effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzpackage Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think it would be a good disguise formation. If we line up like that with 2 WR and 1 TE, depending on the down it would be tough for a defense to decide if it is run or pass. You could do a lot of things out of that formation. Dive to Betts. Pitch to Portis. Playaction. Fake handoff to Betts, quickpitch Portis. Quite a few unique screens. Of course, all of this is predicated on having the entire gambit of plays in this formation to choose from and setting up the defense accordingly earlier in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was thinking, what would be a great way to use both Portis and Betts next season? How about putting Betts and Portis in the game at the same time? In the backfield split Portis to the left and Betts to the right, so either one could run the ball or go out for a pass..Dont you think that could be very effective?OMG, I think you just invented the split formation!!! wait a minute... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 OMG, I think you just invented the split formation!!! wait a minute... :doh: I know its already invinted, im saying we should use it with Portis and Betts. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzpackage Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 OMG, I think you just invented the split formation!!! wait a minute... :doh: Yeah thanks for your input buddy, but I think he was speaking strictly to the personnel aspect of this formation considering I don't remember 1 play all year with Porgie and Bess in the backfield together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was thinking this might work well too. The only problem with it might be that when Betts would run it, that would leave Portis to be a lead blocker. I don't know if the coaching staff will want to risk CP's shoulder like that. Pass blocking is one thing, but putting that shoulder out there on runs is risky. If they could find a way around that or if they, and CP, feel comfortable putting him in that situation, i could work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 OMG, I think you just invented the split formation!!! wait a minute... :doh: OMG, I think that is called more than just the split formation. Hmm what else could it be called. Maybe and offset I. Maybe we could put Mike sellars back there and run the wishbone. Come to think about it There are multiple formations that we could use these two at the same time. Maybe even throw Portis out at WR and have him run a reverse or have him run a screenplay. The options are endless with the talent that we have at RB. But I guess we should listen to all these people that want to trade Portis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Actually, I could see us using that once in a while and then having Portis go in motion and line up as a WR, similar to what Faulk did from time to time in STL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was thinking, what would be a great way to use both Portis and Betts next season? How about putting Betts and Portis in the game at the same time? In the backfield split Portis to the left and Betts to the right, so either one could run the ball or go out for a pass..Dont you think that could be very effective? Oh...u mean Pro-Form. The Offense Joe Gibbs Invented (basically). Im sure our offensive staff has or will mull this over....perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think it would be a good disguise formation. If we line up like that with 2 WR and 1 TE, depending on the down it would be tough for a defense to decide if it is run or pass. You could do a lot of things out of that formation.Dive to Betts. Pitch to Portis. Playaction. Fake handoff to Betts, quickpitch Portis. Quite a few unique screens. Of course, all of this is predicated on having the entire gambit of plays in this formation to choose from and setting up the defense accordingly earlier in the game. I was hoping they would do something like that this season but I never saw it. I think all those options you pointed out would be awesome. I love the fake handoff to Betts pitch to Portis and the fake pitch to Portis dive to Betts would be money. To the poster about one or the other lead blocking I dont think someone needs to lead block because the defense is going to lean one way or the other and get caught of guard. Man I hope they keep both Betts and Portis and do this at least a few games. Man even screens would be ****ing money. Also with Betts great pass catching ability you can line him up as a reciever with CP in the backfield, endless posibilities. Please please keep both of them :fingersx: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 this kind of thing, while it should be left up to coordinators instead of extreme skins, is exactly the reason why we need to keep both i know saunders had a rough year, but if ANYONE can come up with a scheme to fit both in, it is him he is one of the few oc's who runs a scheme that really can fit many, many players lets give cp 20 runs, 3 passes a game...ladell 10 runs, 5 passes throw a few to moss, a few to cooley, a couple to ARE (i dont think we need calvin johnson?) tgijef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 oh, and youll notice my plan involved ZERO reverses, halfback passes, or end aroudn passes tgijef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauss Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Saunders mentioned using Betts and Portis together on a limited basis last training camp. Due to Portis' injury it never happpened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Yeah thanks for your input buddy, but I think he was speaking strictly to the personnel aspect of this formation considering I don't remember 1 play all year with Porgie and Bess in the backfield together.That's because Portis was injured. With both of them healthy next year I would not be suprised at all to see this formation and/or similar variations. My point was that this is not a new or novel idea. I should have just used one of those Capt. Obvious emoticons. Plus, people have been starting such ridiculous threads recently that they are all getting to me. I mean, have you seen the one about campbell's jersey? that guy should get a kick in the nuts by his own grandmother.Porgie and Bess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 i mean the campbell jersey thread was somewhat of a joke i guess things are a bit seirous this morning? and if a thread is "getting to you" then...i mean i dont have any advice... tgijef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzpackage Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Porgie and Bess? :laugh: Sorry. It's an old broadway production with music by George Gershwin. One of my favorite jazz artists Charles Mingus covers some of it. It seemed to fit way too well for me to not use it plus I have the afternoon off and I'm really giddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was thinking, what would be a great way to use both Portis and Betts next season? How about putting Betts and Portis in the game at the same time? In the backfield split Portis to the left and Betts to the right, so either one could run the ball or go out for a pass..Dont you think that could be very effective? Whatever the scenario may be, I think it's going to be tough to get both guys involved next season. Betts and Portis seem to get better as the game goes on. It will be interesting to see how Joe and Al use these guys if indeed the plan is to use both in a substantive manner on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I will definitely rock that formation in Madden...and will subsequently work all of you hookers who think you have game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 nonsense. When Terrell Davis got hurt, Mike Anderson came in and rushed for 1000 yards... as did Olandis Gary... Then Terrell Davis came back, so did Mike Anderson and Mike Anderson is a back-up. Point is... Ladell is a great back-up. remember... he fumbles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I don't ever want Portis being the lead blocker on a play. But I love the idea of putting Portis in the slot with Betts in the backfield. Basically do what the Saints do with Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Well, since we've gotten zero production from the WR2 position for several years now, it's probably a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art McDonough Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 My guess is both CP and Betts would rather see Mike Sellers back there with them doing the lead blocking. My wish is to see Sellers as the up back in an eye formation with either CP or Betts and give Sellers a bigger role carrying the ball. It's always better when the defense is guessing who gets the ball on each play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I would like that formation, but then put betts in motion to line up as a WR...kinda like how ARE lines up in the backfield sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Actually, I could see us using that once in a while and then having Portis go in motion and line up as a WR, similar to what Faulk did from time to time in STL. I was thinking the opposite...Betts is the third down back, and the smaller of the two...he is a slightly better pass catcher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 That would be good, i would love to see both of them on the field at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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