G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Pretty interesting. http://www.hdnowonline.com/News_and_links.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 dam Sony is getting killed oh well what do you expect when consumers are buying and hd tv and then next to it they see a hd dvd player and a blueray player what do you think they will buy, the name is what is going to win this and eveyrone is familar with HD now with all the commercials and hate to say it that commercial with Jessica Simpson, that is all my wife says now 1080i i want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 That's what I've been saying.. Name recognition means a lot in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I thought Sony might pull it off with including the Blu-ray in the PS3, but the botched launch of that may very well tip the balance to HD-DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 so the source of the article is a site HDnow? Looks to me that there is some bias there. Reports I have read from other sources say Blu-Ray is still the way to go in the long run. To me this article proves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfire Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm incredibly happy with my Nintendo Wii. This is the first time I've bought a Madden game and not felt ripped off a little. That controller is so sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeApe Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Definitely bias. Look at their home page. Welcome to the home page of the Petition campaign to ask certain studios, like Fox, Disney, MGM and Lions Gate, that they support the High Definition DVD (HD DVD) disc format with more releases.We believe that High Definition DVD (HD DVD) is the best and most consumer-friendly next-generation video format. At one-half, to one-third, of the price of the "other brand", HD DVD has been delivering the most consistent picture quality and ownership experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Never said it was or it wasn't.. but it's an article, it may or may not be accurate, but I found it interesting.. There are some people who are just label fans and they will defend their label no matter how dumb the argument gets.. I frankly don't care.. I have an Xbox and a Wii and an HD-DVD player. If the day comes when the Sony is priced reasonably and I can't find the movies I want on my chosen format, I'll get a PS3 or a blue-ray player. *shrug*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Definitely bias. Look at their home page. Thank you for posting that, i'm not gonna bother reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-ray is obviously superior... I am not going to get either for a long time, but technically you can't argue that HD-DVD is better. I'll wait till the price for the PS3 comes down or I have more money and then get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-ray is obviously superior... I am not going to get either for a long time, but technically you can't argue that HD-DVD is better. I'll wait till the price for the PS3 comes down or I have more money and then get that. Why is Blu-Ray so superior? These are just disc formats. If I can get movies with sufficiently high bitrates, and they use the same codecs, why do I care if they are on a HD disc, a Blu-Ray disc, downloaded over the internet, or sent to me on a hard drive? They are just bits. Is there something I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-ray is obviously superior... I am not going to get either for a long time, but technically you can't argue that HD-DVD is better. I'll wait till the price for the PS3 comes down or I have more money and then get that. I remember the same thing happening with Beta and VHS.. I was little but my father will tell me that he thought Beta was 10x better then VHS and he doesn't know why VHS killed it. I dunno if that's true or not or just one man's opinion. Blu-Ray will hold more data I know that, and it may be a better technology but consumers have been blasted with the term HD for the past 2 years. They will more then likely go for what they recognize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Why is Blu-Ray so superior? These are just disc formats. If I can get movies with sufficiently high bitrates, and they use the same codecs, why do I care if they are on a HD disc, a Blu-Ray disc, downloaded over the internet, or sent to me on a hard drive? They are just bits. Is there something I'm missing? Honestly dude, I think TV in general has hit a wall as far as growth goes and all this crap is just a way to sell more TV's until 3-D holographic Vision comes out. (3DHV) or if your really rich (3DHDHV10008000ipo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Why is Blu-Ray so superior? These are just disc formats. If I can get movies with sufficiently high bitrates, and they use the same codecs, why do I care if they are on a HD disc, a Blu-Ray disc, downloaded over the internet, or sent to me on a hard drive? They are just bits. Is there something I'm missing? It isn't "so" superior, it is just superior. Because the price will come down but the amount of data held by each will be the same. You may have a point with movies, but this becomes and issue with games, and more space is better right? Why wouldn't it be? This probably won't be a problem for movies, unless movies could use the extra space in some beneficial way (and I don't see why they couldn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Sony made a mistake and is paying for it. I don't think it matters if Blu-Ray is better or not. If HD DVD works and people buy it Blu-Ray will go by the wayside regardless if it is better. It is cheaper to pick one and manufacture using just the one format. High Definition is the near future and people see the HD DVD name (as the poster above pointed out) and select that not knowing any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 There's a reason this article exists. It's put out by HD-DVD backers, to beg movie companies to make movies in their formats instead of Blu-Ray. Sony prepared for this war unlike when the Beta/VHS war occured. Sony not only has it's own extensive movie library that will release all it's movies in blu-ray and not HD-DVD, but those others are doing the same because Sony bought their libraries as well, and probably has connection to them. The biggest problem with Beta was no one released in that format. But now no one is really releasing movies in HD-DVD format. I would compare this format war more like the DVD/Divx war then the beta/VHS war. As for difference, blu-ray can store MUCH more data, and have much more potential. That will make for more interactive movies and extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I wont even consider buying either of these formats for several years. By that point there will be a clear cut winner and either will be so much cheaper than they are now. Beta was a superior product to VHS. VHS was cheaper. Everything about it was cheaper, the players, the movies, etc. A beta had a much better picture quality. And was a little more compact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Here is a good article on why HD-DVD will do. Now, here's the crucial difference between 1080i and 1080p, as it relates to movies. With 1080i transmission, the player interlaces the frames during the pulldown and sends the interlaced frames to the TV set to be deinterlaced. With 1080p transmission, the player never interlaces the frames. Click to see how deinterlacing works. Regardless, you will get the exact same result. The only exception is if you have a crap TV that doesn't deinterlace properly, but chances are that TV won't support 1080p anyway.So 1080p doesn't matter for movies http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-24660414&user=UnnDunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Here is a good article on why HD-DVD will do.http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-24660414&user=UnnDunn you're missing the point. It's not just about 1080i vs. 1080p. HD-DVD has already reached it's full potential before it even was available to the public. Blu-Ray has room to grow. It's like why would you buy a 7.1 sound system when there are only a handful of movies available in 6.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD is so 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/technology/04video.html?_r=2&ref=technology&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Consumers wary of buying new high-definition DVD players because of a technology war reminiscent of the days of Betamax versus VHS will soon have a new kind of DVD that might make the decision less daunting.Warner Brothers, which helped popularize the DVD more than a decade ago, plans to announce next week a single videodisc that can play films and television programs in both Blu-ray and HD-DVD, the rival DVD technologies. Warner Brothers, a division of Time Warner, plans to formally announce the new disc, which it is calling a Total HD disc, at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 you're missing the point. It's not just about 1080i vs. 1080p. HD-DVD has already reached it's full potential before it even was available to the public. Blu-Ray has room to grow. It's like why would you buy a 7.1 sound system when there are only a handful of movies available in 6.1. I am not missing the point. I dont want to pay $1,000 for potential. The blu_ray player can not produce images better than HD-DVD. I dont care about how much storage it holds. Please tell me in technical terms how HD-DVD has bottomed out. This reminds me of the 8mm crap years ago :doh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD is so 2006http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/technology/04video.html?_r=2&ref=technology&oref=slogin&oref=slogin WOW!!! Who holds the patent on these technologies?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 LG just announced a DVD player that can play both will be hitting stores in early 2007. http://www.betanews.com/article/LG_to_Announce_Bluray_HD_DVD_Hybrid_Drive_at_CES/1167930194 Personally I just don't think either HDDVD or Blu-Ray makes that much of a difference unless you have a massive -- like 60 inch -- screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 It isn't "so" superior, it is just superior. Because the price will come down but the amount of data held by each will be the same. You may have a point with movies, but this becomes and issue with games, and more space is better right? Why wouldn't it be? This probably won't be a problem for movies, unless movies could use the extra space in some beneficial way (and I don't see why they couldn't). Not to mention that Blueray is apparently much harder to code for... But hey it's got more space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD is so 2006http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/technology/04video.html?_r=2&ref=technology&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Now that's cool, but I bet it will cost an arm and a leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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