Raub Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/21/AR2006112101753.html Against Tampa Bay, Williams and Buenning exploited the right side of the Redskins' defense, and for Griffin and Daniels watching the film Sunday night, it was apparent, especially because primarily running to the weak side goes against football convention. The strong side -- the side of the offensive line on which the tight end lines up -- is designed for running plays. But the Redskins are so deficient on the opposite side of the line that teams have run at Carter and Holdman all season long. "We pride ourselves on running the ball and stopping people from running on us. That's how we won last year," Daniels said. "This isn't Redskin ball right now. We are about going out and hitting people in the mouth and not letting people run on us." Click link for rest of article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 You have to wonder about locker room chemistry on the D side now. When you have players not publicly stating that the weak side is getting abused and then you have opposing teams coming out and saying their targeting that side. Bad things. At which point do you start playing your Rocky its not like he can do worse than Holdman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 you have to wonder why in the hell holdman is still starting at wlb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Pretty telling article I think. Guess I'm not the only one tired of watching RBs go right down Highway 57. I think it speaks volumes that Daniels and Griffin watched tape instead of going home. Shows that someone on the D still gives a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Pretty telling article I think. Guess I'm not the only one tired of watching RBs go right down Highway 57.I think it speaks volumes that Daniels and Griffin watched tape instead of going home. Shows that someone on the D still gives a crap. Yes it does, they still care. You've gotta wonder how they feel in the locker room when you know they guys to your right are constantly getting knocked off the ball. Carter gets pushed so wide I could find the hole. Then watching Holdmans inability to shed a block makes me want to throw things. GoSkinsGo angry at weakside play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 you gotta wonder why williams is so stupid that teams blatantly say "WE ARE RUNNING AGAINST THOSE TWO GUYS" yet he continues to play them every week and every week the same thing happens. i mean seriously, wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Just to be fair, they are running on Washington too. None of our LBs are playing well right now. I mean, when Washington meets Williams in the hole, and Williams just bounces off of him, that's a problem. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Just to be fair, they are running on Washington too. None of our LBs are playing well right now. I mean, when Washington meets Williams in the hole, and Williams just bounces off of him, that's a problem.Jason That's ture, but when you have opposing teams just flat out stating "We like to run to the weakside.." Thats not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 gee whizz....who woulda predicted that, personalities/egos/PR aside, going full time with a known liability like Holdman over Arrington was gonna create long-term problems? nahhhhhhh....Dale Limpsey can "coach em up" cuz he's a great guy and, no doubt, a hard worker! efiin idiots running personnel for this team. EFFIN IDIOTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 This worries me, not because it's Holdman, which we all know hasn't been playing well. It's that Rocky can't get on the field at all even when Holdman is sucking it up. My guess is that Rocky isn't what they were expecting and if we did put him in it would actually be a decline in production on that side. Scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 That's ture, but when you have opposing teams just flat out stating "We like to run to the weakside.." Thats not a good sign. Well, it also happens to be where Tampa has the most experience on the line. On the other side, they have a couple of rookies. In any case, they were lining up a TE over there as well, and Alstott is a load and a half. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 This sad devotion to players that are just plain not getting the job done is really getting tired. Opposing teams see it, our own players see it; so why can't our coaches see it and make the necessary changes to help remedy a losing situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 This worries me, not because it's Holdman, which we all know hasn't been playing well. It's that Rocky can't get on the field at all even when Holdman is sucking it up. My guess is that Rocky isn't what they were expecting and if we did put him in it would actually be a decline in production on that side. Scary stuff.That is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Well, it also happens to be where Tampa has the most experience on the line. On the other side, they have a couple of rookies.In any case, they were lining up a TE over there as well, and Alstott is a load and a half. Jason Alstott had ten carries prior to Sunday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 i think they are asking too much of carter. williams and friends should know he's light in the ass and can't outmuscle tackles. i don't see jayson taylor, peppers, or freeny standing up tackles every play. they make their plays going around them. as for running on the weak side. its nothing new...teams had success last year running over there. obviously not to the extent of this year (probably due to poor coaching with carter). maybe if williams were smart, he would move carter down the line to create matchups. or at least to get wynn and daniels in on run support while carter is blitzing as a LB. lack of adjustments has always hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 alstott had the best game of his season against us on sunday. he had 6 carries (most of the season for him) and the most yards (28). i guess every other team the bucs played didnt find him "a load and a half". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 you gotta wonder why williams is so stupid that teams blatantly say "WE ARE RUNNING AGAINST THOSE TWO GUYS" yet he continues to play them every week and every week the same thing happens. i mean seriously, wtf. hopefully, this was part of the meeting that Gibbs had with the def. coaches this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Well, it also happens to be where Tampa has the most experience on the line. On the other side, they have a couple of rookies.In any case, they were lining up a TE over there as well, and Alstott is a load and a half. Jason You mean the two stud combo of Dan Buenning (2yrs exp) and Cornell Green (7yrs, 8 games started). With help from the dominating duo of Doug Jolley and Anthony Becht? That weak side is weak, they dominated that side with two players (line) that have a combined 9yrs of exp with 30 starts. We got dominated on that side like we did last year. Sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 This maybe too obvious but I can't help but wonder why we have not sat Carter down on obvious running downs and gone back to last years line of Wynn, Griffin, Salave'a and Daniels. Bring Carter in on obvious passing downs to provide pass rush. While I am no fan of Holdman and don't think he has it anymore, it is obvious to me that Carter is just getting mauled on running plays and is often pushed so far off the line that he is in Holdman's way. There is an old saying..."if you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always got." We line up the same guys in the same positions every week and we get pounded every week. It is time to change some things up a bit and go to more situational stuff, IMHO. At this point, it can't hurt. I'm not sure what Williams and company expect to change. They have to know by now that they don't have what they thought they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 This maybe too obvious but I can't help but wonder why we have not sat Carter down on obvious running downs and gone back to last years line of Wynn, Griffin, Salave'a and Daniels. Bring Carter in on obvious passing downs to provide pass rush. While I am no fan of Holdman and don't think he has it anymore, it is obvious to me that Carter is just getting mauled on running plays and is often pushed so far off the line that he is in Holdman's way.There is an old saying..."if you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always got." We line up the same guys in the same positions every week and we get pounded every week. It is time to change some things up a bit and go to more situational stuff, IMHO. At this point, it can't hurt. I'm not sure what Williams and company expect to change. They have to know by now that they don't have what they thought they had. Excellent question. Carter should be brought in on obvious passing downs, he is completely ineffective against the run. He's too small and tackles just dominate him. This coaching staff has a hardon for Holdman--the guy has pretty much been flat out worthless since the brilliant dale lindsay got him over here. There is no way McIntosh is worse than Holdman, but the defensive staff is so stubborn and so full of themselves that benching holdman would be yet another mistake in their cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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