Tony Romo vs Jason Campbell

[Santana_Fan]

Campbell was alot better in his first start than Romo sits to pee was. They threw for the same amount of td's, BUT Romo sits to pee had 3 int's, Campbell 0.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Campbell was alot better in his first start than Romo sits to pee was. They threw for the same amount of td's, BUT Romo sits to pee had 3 int's, Campbell 0.

:doh: That wasn't Romo sits to pee's first start genius. He was thrown into the fire playing the second half of the Giants game when he threw three picks. His first start came at Carolina (a team with a winning record fighting for the playoffs) where his rating was about 86 and we blew them out. You should be excited about Campbell but atleast get your facts straight. Campbell gets his shot at Carolina this Sunday.

[Santana_Fan]

:doh: That wasn't Romo sits to pee's first start genius. He was thrown into the fire playing the second half of the Giants game when he threw three picks. His first start came at Carolina (a team with a winning record fighting for the playoffs) where his rating was about 86 and we blew them out. You should be excited about Campbell but atleast get your facts straight. Campbell gets his shot at Carolina this Sunday.

Yea your right, MY BAD! But it's rare that I'm wrong on here about anything that I say, and that was most def wrong. "Genius" I like that one lol.

[WeownU]

I didn't not get the chance to See Campbell in action yesterday, everytime I turned that game on, the bucs always had the ball, but I'm looking over his stats and while it doesn't look like he played poorly, I'm not willing to call him the next big thing (like some in the stadium are saying)

19-34 is only a 55% completion rating. Against the 29th rated defense in the league.

5.77 yards per pass attempt. Brunells was 6.88 per attempt. And since that was one of the biggest problems you guys had with Brunell, this guy is below him.

He had less than 100 yards to recievers. Looking at who he threw too, it was either a TE or dump off passes to Betts. Sound familiar?

But hey, its his first game, and like I said, it doesn't look like he played poorly, I would just be a little hesitant to call him a franchise qb (what some guys in the stadium are saying). I'd say it is a little early for that. It was the buccaneers afterall.

I don't think there is any comparison to Romo sits to pee. Romo sits to pee is a blocked kick away from being 4-0 and has put up Incredible numbers. 3 game of which were on the road. Only second to Peyton in qb rating too.

[pointyfootball]

5 starts between the two of them. Chances are one of them will not be "the guy" for 8-10 years.

And fwiw, Romo sits to pee looks the guy from Mad magazine with those ears.

[THEHEREAFTER]

That's not really being a factor in the game is it?

RR you're funny man. JJ was huge in the second half.

[daBoys!]

I think Campbell looked good. It really was time for a change for the Skins. If anything, he will bring the moral back up...you guys have been hanging your heads low all season. Campbell should change that!

[RiggoReincarnated]

I didn't not get the chance to See Campbell in action yesterday, everytime I turned that game on, the bucs always had the ball, but I'm looking over his stats and while it doesn't look like he played poorly, I'm not willing to call him the next big thing (like some in the stadium are saying)

19-34 is only a 55% completion rating. Against the 29th rated defense in the league.

5.77 yards per pass attempt. Brunells was 6.88 per attempt. And since that was one of the biggest problems you guys had with Brunell, this guy is below him.

He had less than 100 yards to recievers. Looking at who he threw too, it was either a TE or dump off passes to Betts. Sound familiar?

But hey, its his first game, and like I said, it doesn't look like he played poorly, I would just be a little hesitant to call him a franchise qb (what some guys in the stadium are saying). I'd say it is a little early for that. It was the buccaneers afterall.

I don't think there is any comparison to Romo sits to pee. Romo sits to pee is a blocked kick away from being 4-0 and has put up Incredible numbers. 3 game of which were on the road. Only second to Peyton in qb rating too.

How did it happen? How did an undrafted free agent beat Payton Manning?

[Riggo#44]

I didn't not get the chance to See Campbell in action yesterday, everytime I turned that game on, the bucs always had the ball, but I'm looking over his stats and while it doesn't look like he played poorly, I'm not willing to call him the next big thing (like some in the stadium are saying)

19-34 is only a 55% completion rating. Against the 29th rated defense in the league.

5.77 yards per pass attempt. Brunells was 6.88 per attempt. And since that was one of the biggest problems you guys had with Brunell, this guy is below him.

He had less than 100 yards to recievers. Looking at who he threw too, it was either a TE or dump off passes to Betts. Sound familiar?

But hey, its his first game, and like I said, it doesn't look like he played poorly, I would just be a little hesitant to call him a franchise qb (what some guys in the stadium are saying). I'd say it is a little early for that. It was the buccaneers afterall.

I don't think there is any comparison to Romo sits to pee. Romo sits to pee is a blocked kick away from being 4-0 and has put up Incredible numbers. 3 game of which were on the road. Only second to Peyton in qb rating too.

Of course not - I mean how can Campbell possibly compare the great Tony Romo sits to pee? I every quarterback who has put four great starts together turns into the next Joe Montana right?

- Campbell was a dropped pass from having his first NFL pass be a 54 yard TD bomb.

- See I did watch all of the game and Campbell did make some bad throws, but he did not throw any picks (how many did Romo sits to pee throw in his first bit of action, three?) he showed a poise and calm in the pocket, and his 2 TD throws were things of beauty. So there are more than jsut stats my friend.

- It's easy to sing Romo sits to pee's praises when he has a full compliment of weapons. I noticed that you failed to mention Campbell was without Portis and Moss, and the defense allowed the Bucs to hold the ball for almost 10 minutes more than the Redskins. Interesting.

[Santana_Fan]

I didn't not get the chance to See Campbell in action yesterday, everytime I turned that game on, the bucs always had the ball, but I'm looking over his stats and while it doesn't look like he played poorly, I'm not willing to call him the next big thing (like some in the stadium are saying)

I don't think there is any comparison to Romo sits to pee. Romo sits to pee is a blocked kick away from being 4-0 and has put up Incredible numbers. 3 game of which were on the road. Only second to Peyton in qb rating too.

Is Romo sits to pee the next big thing? If you ask me, the game shouldnt have even gotten that far, we "should've" made our very first field goal. And before you bring up the T.O. dropped pass, Cooley's dropped pass could've turned into points also. And then Joe Buck said Cooley dropped the ball because of Roy Williams...that's a funny guy. There's no guarantee that Roy Williams would've tackled Cooley. But all that game produces is a bunch of "could've" and "would've" beens.

[WeownU]

- See I did watch all of the game and Campbell did make some bad throws, but he did not throw any picks (how many did Romo sits to pee throw in his first bit of action, three?) he showed a poise and calm in the pocket, and his 2 TD throws were things of beauty. So there are more than jsut stats my friend..

Romo sits to pee threw 1 pick in his first start. One of those td passes he threw was a 4 yard pass to the guys standing right in front of him. I'd hardly call that a "thing of beauty". I mean c'mon dude. Take the goggles off. A thing of beauty??? :doh:

2td's and 0 picks is a very good outing for the first time out. I won't dispute that. But it was against the 29th ranked D too.

The vast majority of his passes were either dump offs to rb's or to the TE. Just like Brunell. I certainly think that was the best gameplan for a young qb though, so I'm not blasting him for it, I'm just saying you have very little to go on as of right now, but yes, if I were you, I would be looking at the positives too. Thats why we're fans.

Romo sits to pee's first start was against Carolina. Lets see how he does this week.

Romo sits to pee has had 4 starts, and in all 4 he has been STELLAR. To me, that is far better than just 1 start where almost half of the qb's yards came against the prevent D.

[skins4eva]

Romo sits to pee threw 1 pick in his first start. One of those td passes he threw was a 4 yard pass to the guys standing right in front of him. I'd hardly call that a "thing of beauty". I mean c'mon dude. Take the goggles off. A thing of beauty??? :doh:

2td's and 0 picks is a very good outing for the first time out. I won't dispute that. But it was against the 29th ranked D too.

The vast majority of his passes were either dump offs to rb's or to the TE. Just like Brunell. I certainly think that was the best gameplan for a young qb though, so I'm not blasting him for it, I'm just saying you have very little to go on as of right now, but yes, if I were you, I would be looking at the positives too. Thats why we're fans.

Romo sits to pee's first start was against Carolina. Lets see how he does this week.

Romo sits to pee has had 4 starts, and in all 4 he has been STELLAR. To me, that is far better than just 1 start where almost half of the qb's yards came against the prevent D.

Did you watch the game? Campbell played fantastic football--cool under fire, great arm, great decisions, makes all the throws. It was night and day between him and brunell. He stepped up into the pocket, hell he executed the 7 step drop in the same amount of time it takes Brunell to execute the 3 step drop. I was very very impressed.

Right now, I think it's crazy to compare Campbell and Brunell. Campbell plays on a completely dysfunctional team--with no defense and no running game--keep in mind, btw, that Campbell was playing without Santana Moss and Clinton Portis--a fact that should underscore how well he did--and Romo sits to pee is playing on a team that is really beginning to hit its stride and develop a personality. That win over Indy will give the cowboys very real confidence. Their defense played a great game and their offense did enough to win. It's not a valid comparison, in my mind. I think both will be good QBs in this league and I'm already looking forward to seeing them play each other.

[THEHEREAFTER]

It's inevitable to compare given the fan bases involved but we really shouldn't be comparing Campbell and Romo sits to pee just yet. Obviously, Romo sits to pee has performed well leading Dallas to a 3-1 record and a superb command of our offense. Skins fans should be excited about Jason doing some good things on Sunday and showing promise. It's very early to evaluate however because Romo sits to pee has a few more games under his belt (against quality competition), it's very clear he's the real deal.

[THEHEREAFTER]

and Romo sits to pee is playing on a team that is really beginning to hit its stride and develop a personality. That win over Indy will give the cowboys very real confidence.

I agree with everything you said. Campbell, right now, looks like he can do things that Brunell just couldn't. In regards to what I quoted on you, don't discount that Romo sits to pee is a big REASON for the Boys hitting a stride and building momentum. I could write a book on the differences between Romo sits to pee and Bledsoe. Romo sits to pee is "The Moxie Kid."

[WideReceiver25]

I was ticked off that in the Cowboys vs Colts game they rated Romo sits to pee higher than Manning. Manning is extremly better than Romo sits to pee.

[Cyber Pimp]

Hmmm...I've got a feeling this may be a big NFC East rivalry over the next 8-10 years.

I think both teams may have found their franchise signal callers.

Campbell only played one game. Give me a break. Hes still unproven.

[skins4eva]

I agree with everything you said. Campbell, right now, looks like he can do things that Brunell just couldn't. In regards to what I quoted on you, don't discount that Romo sits to pee is a big REASON for the Boys hitting a stride and building momentum. I could write a book on the differences between Romo sits to pee and Bledsoe. Romo sits to pee is "The Moxie Kid."

I'm not discounting it at all. I've always believed that the QB position is the most important position on the field--it's the position of real leadership for the entire team...even the defense in many ways. It's not a coincidence that very few teams have made it to the super bowl without a quality QB, the only one that comes to mind are the Ravens--and their defense was one of the best of all time.

It just goes to show how one quarterback can look terrible behind an o-line and another can look great...Romo sits to pee, like Campbell can do things that their predecessors just couldn't do. Romo sits to pee sees the field well, he has the arm and he can buy time, and he's got a great personality. I think the same things can be said of Campbell.

And now, I'll go off on a tangent about Elisha Manning. I said from the moment he was drafted--I'm on record as saying he was the worst qb of the first 3 picked. I always loved Rivers and I had heard and seen Big Ben really play well. I had a feeling that the Giants GM became enamoured with the manning pedigree. When you look at Eli's career at Ole Miss--yes he had a great career, but it wasn't exceptional. He never had the accuracy of his brother, he really didn't play great competition, and to me, he was never ever a leader--and I think that's what bothered me the most. At Ole Miss he was Archie Manning's son--he didn't need to do anything to be a leader, he was a leader simply because he was a manning.

Last night, and this is my biggest problem with him besides his horrendous mechanics which Theisman did a great job of pointing out, he had such a vacant stare on his face, it almost made me feel sorry for him. No fire. No passion. No leadership. He's probably thinking about how bad it will be when Tiki retires. And, my goodness he gets some slack. All criticisms are tempered by--it's only his 3rd year....only his 3rd year?????? Big Ben's won a SB, Rivers may get to one, and Romo sits to pee and Campbell look pretty good. Eli will never be that good of a QB--I think we saw that last night. He gets rattled and his mechanics digress. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, because judging by the look on his face and the fact that no one on that team talks to him, I can only wonder.

[WeownU]

Last night, and this is my biggest problem with him besides his horrendous mechanics which Theisman did a great job of pointing out, he had such a vacant stare on his face, it almost made me feel sorry for him. No fire. No passion. No leadership. He's probably thinking about how bad it will be when Tiki retires. And, my goodness he gets some slack. All criticisms are tempered by--it's only his 3rd year....only his 3rd year?????? Big Ben's won a SB, Rivers may get to one, and Romo sits to pee and Campbell look pretty good. Eli will never be that good of a QB--I think we saw that last night. He gets rattled and his mechanics digress. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, because judging by the look on his face and the fact that no one on that team talks to him, I can only wonder.

I really couldn't agree with you more here. I noticed the exact same thing. THe look his his eye, the body language. They were screaming "Get me outta here". The way he shakes his head as he's walking off the field towards the sideline. The "aw shucks, poor me" shrug.

I don't know if I've ever seen that bad of body language on a pro athlete.

Thats the very same reason I"m a shockey fan. The man refuses to lose. When he gets tackled, he jumps up and pushed guys off him and you can see in his eyes he was saying "LETS ROLL BOYS". But Eli just couldn't get it done.

I'm not ready to claim eli a bust, like you seem to be doing, but he has some serious mental issues to address or he could be in real trouble.

[SkinsHokieFan]

How in the HELL are we trying to compare these 2 players?

1 start for Campbell, 3 for Romo sits to pee

Romo sits to pee with 2 extra years under his belt

Talk to me at the end of 2007

[skins4eva]

I really couldn't agree with you more here. I noticed the exact same thing. THe look his his eye, the body language. They were screaming "Get me outta here". The way he shakes his head as he's walking off the field towards the sideline. The "aw shucks, poor me" shrug.

I don't know if I've ever seen that bad of body language on a pro athlete.

Thats the very same reason I"m a shockey fan. The man refuses to lose. When he gets tackled, he jumps up and pushed guys off him and you can see in his eyes he was saying "LETS ROLL BOYS". But Eli just couldn't get it done.

I'm not ready to claim eli a bust, like you seem to be doing, but he has some serious mental issues to address or he could be in real trouble.

I just don't think football is his passion--maybe he doesn't have one or maybe it's not football and that's ok. But, he's not a winner...just isn't. He was groomed to be a QB his whole life and that's what he is--it feels like something forced upon him, not something he chose for himself. It's also cosmically ironic that Archie didn't want his golden boy going to the dysfunctional chargers organization--it's the best thing that ever happened to SD--their GM should get GM of the year--what an amazing job that dude has done. LT, Rivers, Merriman (still bitter the skins didn't take him) castillo.

Shockey sometimes looks like he just wants to knock Elisha's lights out. Elisha is just such a baby...I don't know how else to discribe it--just not a leader--not cut out to be one.

[THEHEREAFTER]

I was ticked off that in the Cowboys vs Colts game they rated Romo sits to pee higher than Manning. Manning is extremly better than Romo sits to pee.

Ummmm Romo sits to pee actually did rate higher than Manning in their matchup last Sunday. It's a fact. Like 20% higher. Is he a better QB than Manning at this point? Of course not, but I don't get your statement. Romo sits to pee is actually 20-21 in the second half of his last two games. Now that's money when the game's on the line.

[Riggo#44]

Romo sits to pee threw 1 pick in his first start. One of those td passes he threw was a 4 yard pass to the guys standing right in front of him. I'd hardly call that a "thing of beauty". I mean c'mon dude. Take the goggles off. A thing of beauty??? :doh:

Step 1: Grab foot by ankle

Step 2: Open Mouth

Step 3: Insert foot

Repeat as necessary.

Once again, you grace us with your complete lack of football acumen. You are ignoring what he did right before that. It helps to watch the game. On that play, Campbell rolled out, bought himself a ton of time, and got Derrick Brooks to bite on a pump fake - allowing that passing lane to open. Thanks for trying though. Very poised and patient on that play as well. But you see what you want to see...

2td's and 0 picks is a very good outing for the first time out. I won't dispute that. But it was against the 29th ranked D too.

And who has Romo sits to pee played?

Carolina - I'll grant you good numbers - but the last three scroing drives: 14 yards, 32 yards, and 18 yards. The defense/special teams won the game here.

Arizona - #26 passing defense

Washington - #30 passing defense (and he lost, just to remind you)

Indianapolis - Where he did not play well.

The vast majority of his passes were either dump offs to rb's or to the TE. Just like Brunell. I certainly think that was the best gameplan for a young qb though, so I'm not blasting him for it, I'm just saying you have very little to go on as of right now, but yes, if I were you, I would be looking at the positives too. Thats why we're fans.

I thought you didn't watch the game? Or didn't see Campbell play - so how can you accurately assess how Campbell did? I am betting you're talking out of your *** again. Don't you bash Tr1 for that?

Romo sits to pee's first start was against Carolina. Lets see how he does this week.

That's why I specifically said Romo sits to pee's 1st bit of action - he threw 3 picks. Fact. Not his 1st start, 1st bit of action.

Romo sits to pee has had 4 starts, and in all 4 he has been STELLAR.

Stellar? I hardly call what he did against Indy at home stellar. He was stellar against 2 poor defenses and good against Carolina.

To me, that is far better than just 1 start where almost half of the qb's yards came against the prevent D.

How many teams do you know that blitz on a prevent D? I saw at least three blitzes on that drive. TB also had a 13 minute TOP advantage. With NO running game, NO Portis, NO Moss - I'd say that was a damned fine day. But don't let those facts deterr you.

And now that you have been thoroughly dicredited, fade into oblivion. At least Tr1 defends himself.

[Riggo#44]

It's inevitable to compare given the fan bases involved but we really shouldn't be comparing Campbell and Romo sits to pee just yet. Obviously, Romo sits to pee has performed well leading Dallas to a 3-1 record and a superb command of our offense. Skins fans should be excited about Jason doing some good things on Sunday and showing promise. It's very early to evaluate however because Romo sits to pee has a few more games under his belt (against quality competition), it's very clear he's the real deal.

I don't think either can be anointed the "real deal" yet. After 4 games, Gus Frerotte looked like the real deal too - he even went to a Pro Bowl. Jake PLummer looked like the real deal too - hardly the case.

There can be a litany of QBs who light the league up but falter when teams get the book on him. I will give Romo sits to pee credit, but I think some people are getting too excited here. The same goes for Campbell.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Step 1: Grab foot by ankle

Step 2: Open Mouth

Step 3: Insert foot

Repeat as necessary.

Once again, you grace us with your complete lack of football acumen. You are ignoring what he did right before that. It helps to watch the game. On that play, Campbell rolled out, bought himself a ton of time, and got Derrick Brooks to bite on a pump fake - allowing that passing lane to open. Thanks for trying though. Very poised and patient on that play as well. But you see what you want to see...

I completely agree with you. He looked very poised on that TD to Cooley. Actually on both of his TD's tosses he looked like a 10 year vet. I think he had a pretty decent first start although against a horrible team where much of his stats came in garbage time. And yes, I watched the entire game.

And who has Romo sits to pee played?

You have to be kidding right?

Carolina - I'll grant you good numbers - but the last three scroing drives: 14 yards, 32 yards, and 18 yards. The defense/special teams won the game here.

Please don't fault us for having a complete team. Anyone who actually watched that entire game knows that Romo sits to pee's play helped lead us to that win. He was money on third down and completed around 67%. Romo sits to pee's clutch play, especially on third down, has helped our defense rest.

Arizona - #26 passing defense

At AZ is still tough for an inexperienced QB especially considering it was his third straight road game. This is a game where this entire board and Chris Berman predicted an upset. This is the same AZ team that embarassed Rex Grossman and almost upset the mighty Bears.

Washington - #30 passing defense (and he lost, just to remind you)

DALLAS lost not Romo sits to pee. Romo sits to pee played an incredible game. You and I both know you throw the records out for this rivalry. Fed-ex was a hostile environment. Romo sits to pee did everything he could to win this game including throwing a perfect bomb to T.O (which would have broke the game open), and set up the would be game winning FG with a clutch throw to Witten but you already knew all of this.

Indianapolis - Where he did not play well.

Ohhh yeah, buddy. This was his most impressive win. He only played a damn near perfect second half with Robo QB on the other sideline watching, completing 82% of his passes and an 89.5 QB rating against a previously undefeated team. Once again, I'm sure you were joking here.

That's why I specifically said Romo sits to pee's 1st bit of action - he threw 3 picks. Fact. Not his 1st start, 1st bit of action.

You're right. Thrown to the wolves on Monday night against (at the time) a healthy and agressive Giants defense. He also threw two TD's and led the team up and down the field.

Stellar? I hardly call what he did against Indy at home stellar. He was stellar against 2 poor defenses and good against Carolina.

Once again, this was undoubtedly Romo sits to pee's most impressive game and win. Stevie Wonder can see this.

[MisterPinstripe]

T-H-E

I agree that Romo sits to pee has done well, but I dont think we can really be sure till the end of the season. If at the end of the season he has been doing what he has been doing I think we can officially say that you no longer have to worry about a QB. I think the same for Jason Campbell, though maybe after a few games next season we will start to really know.

Looking at his game I cant be any happier. He played well enough to win, our defense just cant tackle. He made no mistakes, and he didnt really even throw a ball that could even be intercepted. He is throwing a LITTLE high sometimes, but that can be corrected. He played poised and looked like a veteran. While being hit and tugged on he made accurate passes. Beyond all of that stuff which we do not see from Brunell, we also see a lot of deep passes which we NEVER see from brunell. He attempted quite a few, and a couple of them should have been caught. He is stretching the field and now teams will have to watch out for that because we no longer have Brunell. I think JC is just going to get better and better. By next year we will be ready to role. And I am looking forward to when he gets Moss in the game. Now if we can somehow fix the defense... If the defense didnt drop from 9th to... really sucky... in one year, we would be still in the division race, no problem. At least 5-5.