MonkeySkin Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106torturedid.htm Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Thursday, November 16, 2006 A horror video that wouldn't look out of place in Maoist China or Nazi Germany shows a student being repeatedly shot with a stun gun by UCLA police for the crime of not showing his ID. As similar cases begin to pile up how long will it be before Americans are routinely tortured for noncompliance and refusing to have their 4th amendment violated? "A cell phone captured video of a 23-year-old student being administered multiple Taser shocks by UCLA police on Tuesday. The UCLA student was hit with the Taser shocks multiple times while he was in the Powell Library Computer Lab. According to the paper, (Mostafa) Tabatabainejad did not show ID to community service officers who were conducting a random check," reports NBC. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I&eurl= Watch the video above and witness as the cops bark at Tabatabainejad to get to his feet as simultaneously shock him over and over until he begins crying and screaming for them to stop. Police are given extensive training on the use of stun guns and in most cases that training involves taking a taser shot and feeling the effects. Depending on each individual's physiology, it takes at least a minute to be able to even stand after a single Taser shot. Over a hundred deaths have occurred in America as a result of taser shocks and Taser's own manual discourages repeated shocks, yet the history of their use tells us that police simply administer repeated shocks until "compliance is gained." This is a euphemism for torture. The video and the eyewitness reports describe multiple taser shots as Tabatabainejad begs and pleads while at one point screaming, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f---ing abuse of power." The officers repeatedly order Tabatabainejad to stand even as they administer further shocks - sending 50,000 volts of current that override the nervous system and temporarily paralyze muscles shooting through his system again and again. He can't stand and the cops know it, they just get off on the maniacal ego power trip of torture and this is why Tabatabainejad is hit again and again despite his screaming and the protests of the onlookers. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EahooGbQrUs&eurl= Similar cases abound in the so-called land of the free, including the video above in which a housewife, Abbey Newman, is assaulted and arrested for simply refusing to tell the gestapo her name at an unconstitutional checkpoint. Another case in which an Alex Jones listener, Ferrell Montgomery, was tasered and had a dog set on him again underscores the brutal and sadistic nature of the police. Like Tabatabainejad, Montgomery was repeatedly told to put his hands behind his head and stand up while he was electric shocked and a dog savaged him for not complying. In November 2005, Deborah Davis was reading a book on a Denver bus when a guard of a nearby federal building got on board and demanded everyone show their ID. Davis refused, leading the guard to "call on federal cops, who then dragged Davis off a public bus, handcuffed her, shoved her into the back seat of a police car and drove off to a police station within the Federal Center." How long before Americans are tortured with taser weapons on the streets for refusing to show identification on a routine basis? How long before we are forced to wear shock collars like some bizarre science fiction movie, where our masters can discipline us on a whim for not obeying orders? It may be a lot sooner than we think. Every indication suggests that there are moves afoot to implement these measures on every major street corner and transport system. A year ago we were told that Federal air marshals were to expand their work beyond airplanes, launching counter-terror surveillance at train stations and other mass transit facilities. So called "Visible Intermodal Protection and Response" teams — or VIPER teams, may soon be permanently deployed to check ID's under the banner of counter-terrorism. We need to set a precedent now whereby police who use taser stun guns and any other kind of unreasonable force as implements of torture, simply if an individual refuses to have their 4th amendment right illegally violated, are instantly fired, sued and can never work in any sector of government, policing or security again. Watch this space for further updates on the Tabatabainejad case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 sounds like he wanted a confrontation...and he got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 That's disturbing right there. I read about it earlier but that's the first time I've seen video of it. Wow. That's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 All I'll say is the same thing I've said in every "police brutality" thread recently.... OBEY the cop, or assume responsibility for the consequences. So far as I'm concerned, the kid got exactly what was coming to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 It's not bad laws, it's bad cops. Fire them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 what is the big problem with IDing yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 BTW, I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court already ruled on showing of IDs and the 4th Amendment. So that argument is bunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 And now he has a life lesson under his belt If this ever happens again, I'll bet he'll be johnny on the spot in getting his ID out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 All I'll say is the same thing I've said in every "police brutality" thread recently....OBEY the cop, or assume responsibility for the consequences. So far as I'm concerned, the kid got exactly what was coming to him. Ask the Jews how obeying SS officers worked out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 With a name like Mostafa Tabatabainejad, you have to wonder if this was really a "Random" check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 this is why we have the second amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacase Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 People feel they can do what they want. That is what you get for trying to make some kind of stupid statement. Just do what the cop says and you will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Ask the Jews how obeying SS officers worked out for them. Ah, here we go. It's always the leftist that, when confronted with authority, start squealing "Nazi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Ah, here we go. It's always the leftist that, when confronted with authority, start squealing "Nazi" Because they are stupid *******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 All I'll say is the same thing I've said in every "police brutality" thread recently....OBEY the cop, or assume responsibility for the consequences. So far as I'm concerned, the kid got exactly what was coming to him. The student was in the wrong by being uncooperative, but the situation could have been handled better by the cops. I only heard the student tell them to F-off AFTER he was tasered. I'd like to know the WHOLE story behind this, but at first glance, it looks like two cops need to be in the unemployment line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 given the source of the article a leftist liberalism protest everything believe nothing website. I would like to see about 5 minutes before the incident rather than a quasi journalist interpretation and a blurred video showing him being tasered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 The student was in the wrong by being uncooperative, but the situation could have been handled better by the cops. I only heard the student tell them to F-off AFTER he was tasered.I'd like to know the WHOLE story behind this, but at first glance, it looks like two cops need to be in the unemployment line. unemployment, i think not. jail: yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 OK, I can tell this story is full of crap for two reasons: 1. There is no context. We don't know what this guy did to get the cops to taze him in the fist place. Refusing to show id is not a reason to taze, but obviously there is more to the story and prisonplanet has an agenda so they conveniently leave that out. Sorry but cops don't just taze people for no reason. 2. I've seen people get tazed and stand up right away afterwords. It does not take at least a minute to stand up. That is a blatant falsehood and you have to believe the falsehood in order for this to amount to some sort of attrocity. The story was written deliberately vague as to excuse any misleading intentions. That's just as bad as lying as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 The student was in the wrong by being uncooperative, but the situation could have been handled better by the cops. I only heard the student tell them to F-off AFTER he was tasered.I'd like to know the WHOLE story behind this, but at first glance, it looks like two cops need to be in the unemployment line. Atually they need a medal and a promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 what is the big problem with IDing yourself? True...I don't have a problem with it, it's required in every jurisdiction I'm aware of, but I wouldn't expect to get freaking tasered if I refused to comply. It's not like he was waving a knife around or something like that. Methinks there is more to the story, though...perhaps someone noticed Mr. Tabatabainejad was posting on a terrorist website or something...who knows. I still think it was an unnecessary escalation of force...even if the cops were legally within the law, it was handled badly. Typical campus police...most of them are Rambo wannabes on a power trip who couldn't cut it as a county or state cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Really stupid kid and cops with some seriously poor judgement. If the kid doesn't stand up drag his dumb ass out of there by his hair. He deserves it and was obviously refusing to obey and resisting arrest. The video proves that completely. The problem is they decided to tase him over and over in front of a growing and very angry crowd. That could have turned into a very ugly situation, where a lot of innocent people could have been injured. This would not be an issue at all had the cops simply dragged the idiot out. The same way they do in a club if someone refuses to cooperate - it's not a choice, you simply impose reality on them. There were many cops and one guy, cuff him and drag his ass away. That simple. Choosing instead to torture them until they willingly comply is wrong IMO. Looking at the crowd that method could have resulted in injured cops and injured or dead students. The crowd was seriously angry and getting very much worse with each dose of the taser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 OK, I can tell this story is full of crap for two reasons:1. There is no context. We don't know what this guy did to get the cops to taze him in the fist place. Refusing to show id is not a reason to taze, but obviously there is more to the story and prisonplanet has an agenda so they conveniently leave that out. Sorry but cops don't just taze people for no reason. 2. I've seen people get tazed and stand up right away afterwords. It does not take at least a minute to stand up. That is a blatant falsehood and you have to believe the falsehood in order for this to amount to some sort of attrocity. The story was written deliberately vague as to excuse any misleading intentions. That's just as bad as lying as far as I'm concerned. everyone reacts to a tazer differently. some people are practically uneffected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySkin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 given the source of the article a leftist liberalism protest everything believe nothing website. I would like to see about 5 minutes before the incident rather than a quasi journalist interpretation and a blurred video showing him being tasered You guys are so retarded and mislead with the "left and right" B.S... Actually, that website doesn't believe in the "left and right" crap anyways... Here's a different link, which was posted on that same website but ya'll must have missed it. http://www.nbc11.com/news/10328455/detail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Actually they need a medal and a promotion I concur. All the kid had to do was listen and show his ID. Noooo, he feels he doesn't have to and he's going to pull the race card. He got what he deserved. Send him back to Iran and he can live their under their rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySkin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 You guys should watch the other video with the lady in the car and let me know what she did wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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