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The big what if on Donald Rumsfeld


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No, because it would have been perceived as weakness and a desperate move by Bush. Politically, he did the only thing possible, based on his platform and position. He claimed Rummy was going to be with him until the end of his turn 10 days ago. It helped mobilize the base, and if he let Rummy go, the base would have been even less mobilized then they were.

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Rumsfeld wasn't the issue unless replacing him actually would have changed the situation in Iraq on the ground. Even Iraq I think was worth maybe only half of the Democratic gains.

Abramoff and then Mark Foley pushed the Democrats over the top. Rumsfeld couldn't have prevented that.

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Who knows. My feeling is that it would have helped the Republicans. People in America are disenchanted with the policy in Iraq and this election was a referendum on that issue. I do think that it was a very classy and conciliatory move by the Bush administration to have Rummy resign. I especially like the fact that Bush admitted that the election showed that the American people want new direction in Iraq and he is willing to work with that. Good for the Republicans for handling this defeat with class. The Dems already had lawyers waiting in the wings to contest any election that they lost but I have not heard a Republican yet say that they are going to contest an election. See you in '08.

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I think it would have helped. A lot of the races that the Dems won were won by a small amount of votes i.e. Montana, Va, and a half a dozen or so House races. I think it's possible that that small handful would have went the other way if Rummy had gone sooner. You might think that people would see it as a political ploy if it was done last week but you have to remember that half of this country is semi-retarded.

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The real question should be - why didn't he fire him years ago, when it became obvious to all but the heaviest kool-aid addict, that what we were doing wasn't having the desired effect.

Edit: Or better yet, take his resignation. And as a premptive strike against those reading this response, maybe we would have more troops over there now which we need and I believe we will soon have. :D

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The real question should be - why didn't he fire him years ago, when it became obvious to all but the heaviest kool-aid addict, that what we were doing wasn't having the desired effect.

If you think about it, who better to do the unpleasant tasks that Rummy willingly undertook...and now he will play the fall guy for the reps.

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If you think about it, who better to do the unpleasant tasks that Rummy willingly undertook...and now he will play the fall guy for the reps.

That sounds like Cheney or Rove type thinking. If true, it was pretty clever.

I suspect it's more a question of Bush and his intense loyalty. A good trait in personal life (and I still maintain I'd rather share a beer with Bush than any other president I've seen in office) but not so much in politics.

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That sounds like Cheney or Rove type thinking. If true, it was pretty clever.

I suspect it's more a question of Bush and his intense loyalty. A good trait in personal life (and I still maintain I'd rather share a beer with Bush than any other president I've seen in office) but not so much in politics.

It smells like you would rather share a line with Bush. j/k:D

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Bush is a dumbass

Even Schumer was on MSNBC and said if Bush had dumped Rumsfeld last week or over the weekend the Repubs probably would have kept Congress

And evidently they have been searching for his his replacement for a couple of months, so why now? Why the day AFTER the election? Why just a few days ago was Bush blabbering about confidence in Rumsfeld and a day later he's out?

Savage was speculating that Bush wanted the Repubs to lose the election so he could get the liberal parts of his agenda done before he leaves

Did you see Bush light up when he was asked by some reporter about immigration reform? HE made a statement to the effect that he could get that passed now that the Repubs were out.

Nice. Bend over America

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