Smoot Point Really Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Anyone else find it odd that Champ Bailey was bitter about being here and one of the reasons was he wasn't getting enough of a shot on offense? Has anyone seen his offensive stats in Denver? He has 1 catch for 11 yards in 2 seasons. I'm not bitter about losing him, but I'm just wondering what all the fuss was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I never got the impression that playing (or not playing) on offense was a contributing factor to Bailey's wanting out of Washington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 When did Champ Bailey wanna play offense? Where was I then...? Anyway, I guess Champ Bailey thinks he is the next Dieon Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Thats the first I'm hearing about him being bitter about the offensive shots. I mean I knew he wanted to play offense, but I thought it was more of a concern of where the franchise was headed. Also, he didn't like DC as a city too much, Denver is better :doh:??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 i dont think he left because of that, seems kinda ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I think Champ was more concerned about the coaching carousel and the state of the FO. When he left, things were not very stable here. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ who? You know, Champ I cover like glue but **** up when the ball gets there and let you get a touchdown Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbiggs Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I can't blame anyone that wanted out of Washington considering who was in charge and the losing culture we had around here. Different coach/system every year, whiners, primadonnas. I think Champ decided that if he wanted to be with a winning team he needed to get out. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAboutSkins08 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ who? exactly. but yea, i heard he wanted to play a little offense, but not that it was the reason why he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USDsk8ter123 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ who? exactly my thought:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I wonder if Champ woulda fit the scheme of our team better now. He is a headcase in Denver, and hasn't shut up about us while there, which pisses me off. However, at the time, it was either extend Lavar, or re-sign Champ. For some reason, we only could afford giving one a big contract (I say for some reason cause we went out and signed Griffin, Springs, Portis, Washington, and Brunell to huge contracts). I know Champ wanted a lot, and I am glad we got Portis. What if Denver wanted Lavar though instead? I guess at the time Lavar was Mr. Redskin and Gibbs thought his chemistry issues would fit better. I think a big reason Champ left was that Lavar was paid instead of him. This complements our coaching carousel and instability. It probably would have been an outrage to see Lavar go two years ago compared to the relative quietness of his departure this past offseason. Hindsight is 20/20, but just something to ponder. Lavar and a 2nd for Portis. Champ and Rogers protecting the backfield. Springs is good, but Champ is younger and just as good if not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragemdw Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Im happy with Clinton. Enuff said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ is the greatest cornerback who ever put on cleats. The only reason anyone has ever caught a pass against him was due to injury. Check the films. Any time a receiver makes a play against him he crumples to the ground and grabs his leg. One day someone will teach him that flopping isn't advantageous at the cornerback position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantanaClaus89 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I happy with Portis, and Shawn Springs has not been TORCHED for touchdowns the past two seasons in the manner Champ Bailey has.. I have no regrets whatsoever for that trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAgeSkins Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 umm... Gibbs wasn't here when the decision of Bailey or Lavar was made. Lavar got his contract in Dec. and Gibbs didnt show up until Jan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ is the greatest cornerback who ever put on cleats. The only reason anyone has ever caught a pass against him was due to injury. Check the films. Any time a receiver makes a play against him he crumples to the ground and grabs his leg. One day someone will teach him that flopping isn't advantageous at the cornerback position. Exactly, how many times did we see him cover someone perfectly, only to jump too late, have the reciever catch the ball and then score a TD because Champ went for the ball and missed instead of making the tackle. Then he puts his hands on his helmet and gives a look like some kind of miracle just happened for the other team. I've never watched a corner who was so talented, covered so well, but then screwed up at the end on so many plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrell1106 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Thats the first I'm hearing about him being bitter about the offensive shots. I mean I knew he wanted to play offense, but I thought it was more of a concern of where the franchise was headed. Also, he didn't like DC as a city too much, Denver is better :doh:??? A good friend of mines is also good friends w/ Champ and he really enjoyed DC (the city) but was happy to go to Denver. There's nothing negative you can really say about Denver because they've been pretty successfull over the last 10-15 years relative to regular season wins and superobowls. It's funny that many players seem to come at a crossroads between Washington and Denver (i.e. Andre Carter, Courtney Brown, Champ, Portis) but I guess the same can be said about the Jets and the Giants:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mook_juice83 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ is the greatest cornerback who ever put on cleats. The only reason anyone has ever caught a pass against him was due to injury. Check the films. Any time a receiver makes a play against him he crumples to the ground and grabs his leg. One day someone will teach him that flopping isn't advantageous at the cornerback position. I was about to very sacastically rip you a new one until I read the whole post. He complains about pass interference almost as much as Shockey which is sad comming from a "shut down" corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n|n Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Two words for Roland Bailey: Eighty Five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Predator 26 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Champ who? He means Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramdizzle Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 He Left Because Of Money. Just Like Smoot And Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 Not sure why this was moved... Maybe it didn't fit here, but we're basically talking about the reasons Champ Bailey left and how ironic it is that he's had "less" exposure to the offense since leaving here and not more. I was under the impression that his opportunities on offense were one of the reasons he was looking to go somewhere else (not the primary reason). Let me quote an article from the Denver Post: ============================================================== After the Broncos made their pitch to Washington Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey, he made his pitch. He lobbied to be used at wide receiver. "I don't want to make it a secret about me wanting to play offense," Bailey said at Denver International Airport, just before he departed early Thursday morning. Bailey made it abundantly clear that, in addition to manning one of Denver's corner positions should a proposed trade with Washington go through, he would like to moonlight at receiver. Starting this season. Asked how Broncos coach Mike Shanahan reacted to his request, Bailey smiled and said: "I won't give it away. I'll let him tell you what he said. But I'm telling you, I tell every coach I want to play there. I want to do it. If you've got a good investment, use it a lot before it wears out." On the rare occasion Bailey has played receiver in the NFL, he has excelled. During the Redskins' 2000 season finale against Arizona, Bailey participated in eight offensive plays, caught two passes for 54 yards and rushed 7 yards for a touchdown. During the same game, on 53 defensive plays, Bailey intercepted a Cardinals pass and knocked down four others. "That was just a little time on offense," Bailey said. "It wasn't enough." ============================================================== Maybe I'm reading too much into this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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