SI: Offseason Report Cards

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I know for a fact this isn't the first time you've heard this, nor is this necessarily the thread to say it in, but I love your sig and it makes me laugh outloud almost every time I see it.

Sean's face is priceless. :rotflmao: :jump: :rotflmao:

I am very excited for the Cowboy fans who are not aware to see how Sean T. is able to cover prototype large WRs one on one man 2 man like stink on :pooh:

There is no other team I would rather have TO on, even with the risk of him having an all-decade type year, it is so exciting to see those two matched up against each other.

Thank you sir.

"Kali Ma! KALI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" :laugh:

[bubba9497]

guys you need to read back and see...the original friggin argument was "dallas has finished ahead of Washington 2 of the last 3 seasons"....your both wrong and i am right. it had nothing to do with records...i knew that when i started the stupid argument...you really think i didnt know that they were both 6-10? Come on guys, imma Dallas fan, which by definition makes me smarter then you.......

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

No the argument was Finished ahead of Dallas all but one season, you narrowed it down to 2 out of 3... but even then it doesn't matter...

Both teams finished 6-10 period... yes you are a Dallas fan, you completely ignore the obvious, and have a problem with reading comprehension. :rubeyes:

no where were the parameters set where either team ranked in the NFC East, or against the NFC, or AFC, or Tie Breakers... or anything else, you added that to prove your point, but it had no barring on the original question posed

Bubba, does N come before D? Then why is NY ahead of Dallas? duh! because the Giants finished ahead of Dallas.....

again you have trouble reading. I said sometimes they are listed Alphabetically

you know....as opposed to NFC East rankings.

you can keep harping all day long about NFC East rankings.... but that doesn't change the original parameters of the Skins & Pokes both FINISHED with a 6-10 record

When a person refers to how a team finished a season, it is meant by overall record. not any other rankings you want to add.

using your ranking Parameters, if you go by NFC rankings the Skins would be ahead of Dallas.... but see that is a specific parameter, not what was originally posed.

for someone who thinks he is so smart, you sure are posting some silly responses. :insane:

[Mister Happy]

.....how about 2 of the last 3 years, the Cowboys have finished ahead of Washington.

The 2003 season with Spurrier is totally irrelevant. Gibbs is here now.

I'm sure you felt really good about how much better your 2004 6-10 record was than our 2004 6-10 record while you were watching us beat Tampa in the playoffs, or while you were getting beat 35-0 by us.

[Henry]

Oh. My. God.

Dallas wins the 6-10 tie-breaker? What the hell are we arguing here?

First of all, the initial statement made by our Cowboy fan freinds was

thats not really shocking to me...they win every off-season. Thats the Skins time to shine!!

The proper response to this, which was made, was "since Snyder has taken over the team winning every offseason, the Cowboys have surpassed the Redskin win total exactly once while the Redskins have surpassed the Dallas win total 5 times. Not only that, in those seven years of Snyders' winning offseasons, we've won 2 playoff games to Dallas' 0."

So we're fine with winning offseasons over Dallas. It translates into posting better records than Dallas, and winning more playoff games than Dallas.

Somehow some Dallas fan found a way to rationalize bragging about a 6-10 season. When you've been as lousy as Dallas has been for as long as they've been, I guess that makes sense, but it's not worth arguing about. Just let it go people.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

guys you need to read back and see...the original friggin argument was "dallas has finished ahead of Washington 2 of the last 3 seasons"....your both wrong and i am right. it had nothing to do with records...i knew that when i started the stupid argument...you really think i didnt know that they were both 6-10? Come on guys, imma Dallas fan, which by definition makes me smarter then you.......

Bubba, does N come before D? Then why is NY ahead of Dallas? duh! because the Giants finished ahead of Dallas.....

Well, what do we make of these rankings then??... Hmmm...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?season=2004&breakdown=2&split=16

According to these rankings, the Redskins finished AHEAD of Dallas...Hmmm...well, no, obviously we need to ignore these particular rankings because we aren't talking about who did better in the conference only.

Then what do we make of these rankings??...Hmmm...

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL+Zone/Standings/2004/17stand.htm

According to THESE rankings, Dallas finished ahead of New York!..Well, no, obvioudly we need to ignore these particular listings because this would blow your theory to smithereens, so these rankings are irrelveant as well...yeah...

Yanno...I wish there was a simple, easy way to determine if one team finished ahead, behind, or equal to another team...one that wouldn't rely on records ONLY against the division or against the conference or on the first letter of the team's name...something like, oh, I dunno...overall win/loss record. Something like that, and that alone, would really clear up this ri-got-damn-diculous debate and settle things once and for all...

If we did that...the rankings for 2004 would be:

Redskins 6-10

Cowboys 6-10

Which would mean they tied. Which would mean neither team came out ahead of the other.

Let's go with that.

[bubba9497]

Just let it go people.

I'm just getting warmed up

but you are right, You have to be very specific in your statements, or these poke fans will find some way to twist it around :laugh:

and don't misspell the word "tangible" either.... or you will never hear the end of it :doh:

[bubba9497]

Well, what do we make of these rankings then??... Hmmm...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?season=2004&breakdown=2&split=16

According to these rankings, the Redskins finished AHEAD of Dallas...Hmmm...well, no, obviously we need to ignore these particular rankings because we aren't talking about who did better in the conference only.

Then what do we make of these rankings??...Hmmm...

[Califan007 The Constipated]

Is there a reason they have Green Bay "ranked" way ahead of Philly on that list, considering Philly went 11-1 in the conference??...lol :laugh:...For any Dallas fans still wanting to hitch their argument to the NFL.com "rankings" in their standings, do you now see why it's a HUGE mistake to rely on ANYTHING other than the overall record?

Again, 6-10 does not rank higher than 6-10....maybe in some parallel universe with an alternate reality, but not here on planet Earth.

[frankbones]

What the hell is going on in this thread?

6-10 records in 2004. Are you ****ing kidding me?

[Dirk Diggler]

All you really need to know about that 2004 season was that Dallas was basically non-competitive in 4 or 5 games that season. Washington was right there in all but 1 game. 6-10 but still very competitive. The Skins closed the season by beating Minny in a game they had to have to go to the playoffs and Dallas was busy handing Eli his first victory as a pro.

Dallas was so embarassing that they had to scrap their entire defensive scheme and try a whole new philosophy. Terrence Newman was so bad that Cowboys fans couldnt even blame the free safety!

To actually act like Dallas was in any way better that year save for 2 days is an exercise in futility.

[Eternal_Cowboy]

Oh. My. God.

Dallas wins the 6-10 tie-breaker? What the hell are we arguing here?

First of all, the initial statement made by our Cowboy fan freinds was

The proper response to this, which was made, was "since Snyder has taken over the team winning every offseason, the Cowboys have surpassed the Redskin win total exactly once while the Redskins have surpassed the Dallas win total 5 times. Not only that, in those seven years of Snyders' winning offseasons, we've won 2 playoff games to Dallas' 0."

So we're fine with winning offseasons over Dallas. It translates into posting better records than Dallas, and winning more playoff games than Dallas.

Somehow some Dallas fan found a way to rationalize bragging about a 6-10 season. When you've been as lousy as Dallas has been for as long as they've been, I guess that makes sense, but it's not worth arguing about. Just let it go people.

I hate to say it, but Henry makes an excellant point. 6-10 sucks, no matter who you beat

[SkinsDukes]

If you read the whole thing it says this about Miami-

"You also can't overlook the addition of two new coordinators (Mike Mularkey on offense and Dom Capers on defense). Head coach Nick Saban has arguably the best coaching staff in football."

Seriously? Gibbs, Saunders, Williams, Bugel aren't better?

I suppose he covers himself with the use of the word "agruably," but its simply an off the wall statement. Given the choice no one would take Mularkey over Saunders and considering the number of teams that lined up looking at Williams in the offseason I think its a no brainer he is the choice over Capers.