Blondie Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 This is disgusting. These guys should be locked up.....or shot. Which ever is easier. http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/10/girl.raped.ap/index.html Football players gang-raped girl, 11, police say Victim was a runaway from a group home FRESNO, California (AP) -- The rape of an 11-year-old girl may have involved as many as 10 men, most of whom are football players at local community colleges, police said. Police arrested two men in connection with the rape Saturday night, and officials said they identified eight others as persons of interest in the case. Most or all are students at either Fresno City College or Reedley College, police said. The victim, a runaway from a group home, went to a Fresno apartment complex Saturday night to visit an acquaintance, said police spokesman Jeff Cardinale. While she was inside one of the units, she allegedly was sexually assaulted multiple times by several men, he said. (Watch a neighbor describe the suspects -- 1:41) The girl then fled the apartment and sought help from a couple on the street who called police, Cardinale said. The victim was taken to University Medical Center for an examination. Mackey Davis, 20, and Eddie Scott, 19, were arrested on one count each of child molestation with a victim under 14 and oral copulation with a victim under 18. Both were being held Sunday at Fresno County Jail on $100,000 bail. The rape allegedly took place in housing arranged by the Fresno City College football team. Davis and Scott were students at Reedley and may have been in the process of transferring to Fresno City, Cardinale said. Calls and e-mails to the Fresno City athletic department were not immediately returned. Calls to Reedley went unanswered. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 these people deserve the death penalty. case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Shot. That's easier. Right after they're pronounced guilty in the courtroom would be the easiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAboutSkins08 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 reading that really made me sick to my stomach. i can't believe people can do things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNSTONE Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I definitly don't think they deserve the death penulty. Fresh meat like that, throw them in population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 these people deserve the death penalty. case closed Assuming they're found guilty, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 This sh** makes me sick. This is why its so hard to watch the news at night. Just glad I live where I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Assuming they're found guilty, yes. Yeah, the words "Duke Lacross Team" come to mind. OTOH, I'd think it's unlikely that the 10-year-old is a professional stripper who thinks she can get money in a lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 This sh** makes me sick. This is why its so hard to watch the news at night. Just glad I live where I do. Umm, they never have horrible crimes in Cincinnatti? This happened in Fresno, not in an LA ghetto. It certainly is horrible. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins0128 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 11 year old girl, this stuff truely makes me sick. Big bad football players could not find a girl their own age? If found guilty they should take them out back and shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sad that people like this exist. Sad that people can do this to other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 life in prison, if not life at least until they are 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 There should have been greater outrage when our soldiers raped and killed the Iraqi girl and her family, but I doubt that was the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 There should have been greater outrage when our soldiers raped and killed the Iraqi girl and her family, but I doubt that was the case That's because some of the other 'atrocity' cases have been cooked up and there's growing doubt about them. It probably had a wearying effect on the public's perception of these stories. I know it did on mine until I heard more details about how the charges were developed and brought. Oh, and in war zones, some very ugly aspects of human nature come out, especially if you're encountering people you are associating with the 'enemy.' Football players can not in any way claim such psychological or moral stresses on their decision-making. But that case with the girl seems more solid and I am absolutely disgusted. If torture before death was an option, all those who participated in it would receive that penalty. At least you know they can receive the death penalty in that case (and should, if guilty.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins2redskins Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 There should have been greater outrage when our soldiers raped and killed the Iraqi girl and her family, but I doubt that was the case[/quoteYou are so right about that,I agree. It's bad when it happens to anyone period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 That's because some of the other 'atrocity' cases have been cooked up and there's growing doubt about them. It probably had a wearying effect on the public's perception of these stories. I know it did on mine until I heard more details about how the charges were developed and brought.Oh, and in war zones, some very ugly aspects of human nature come out, especially if you're encountering people you are associating with the 'enemy.' Football players can not in any way claim such psychological or moral stresses on their decision-making. But that case with the girl seems more solid and I am absolutely disgusted. If torture before death was an option, all those who participated in it would receive that penalty. At least you know they can receive the death penalty in that case (and should, if guilty.) wartime stress is an incredible thing, and may make a man do crazy things, but it's no excuse for raping and murdering a girl and her family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 wartime stress is no excuse for raping and murdering a girl and her family Uh, Mick, who said it was an excuse? I'm saying that if you don't think combat brings out uglier sides of some human beings than what would have been demonstrated 'back in the world' then you really haven't followed human history. And that there is no 'triggering' effect or reason for these guys in this case. I'm not calling it worse, a rape and mass murder is worse always. I'm just saying the perceptions will be different with a crime in peacetime involving a child and a group of human beings with no external stressors acting upon them than they would be for even a horrible war crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSF Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I say castrate them, lock them up and throw away the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 It seems to also validate the "mob" mentality. Together men do more evil.....as they feed off of each other. And when I say "men", I mean human kind, not the gender. One has to wonder if any one of them alone would have participated in this disgusting act. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 This thread goes like this: -insert stereotypical comment of horror and then go back to life not giving a damn about the atrocity- This news story is going to affect any of your lives how? None? What are you going to do now that you've read it? Nothing? Then what good does it do you to post about how awful you think it is? As if people need to read your shock and empathy to realize you have some level of human decency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinthemboys Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Easy decision. A 12 Gauge. I cannot Imagine the anger and rage felt by this girls family. Not to mention the scars this girl will carry with her for life. My decision on it would be nothing less than death for these people. A message needs to be sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 It seems to also validate the "mob" mentality. Together men do more evil.....as they feed off of each other. And when I say "men", I mean human kind, not the gender.One has to wonder if any one of them alone would have participated in this disgusting act. Blondie I agree with you, though I don't think it's unfair to say that men (as in males) are more prone to commit barbarous acts when in a group. And hopefully Steve, once we get past the typical comment, we can get to some intelligent discussions (like the Georgetown murder.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaroopm Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Please, let's not argue about which act was more disgusting, this vile business in Fresno or the rape and murder in Mahmudiyah. Both incidents are disgusting and unconscionable, and neither should be defended in any way. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior, no justification for treating another person (let alone a young woman) this way. I am glad to live in a society with the means to bring some justice to those who commit such acts, and I hope I live in a society that will follow through. Say a prayer for the victims, and keep them in your memory and thoughts, lest their suffering be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Please, let's not argue about which act was more disgusting, this vile business in Fresno or the rape and murder in Mahmudiyah. Both incidents are disgusting and unconscionable, and neither should be defended in any way. Trust me, chap, no one is arguing about which is more disgusting. A rape and murder of an entire family is irrevocable and barbaric, it ranks higher. Mick chose to read a meaning into my post about reaction to the crime as some kind of excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I've never truly understood mob mentality. To me, if I see thousands of people in the middle of the street, rioting and destroying stuff, my first thought would be "Exit, stage Left". Also, rape has to be one of the worst crimes EVER. Seeing a woman, much less a little child screaming and crying as....Well, you know what I'm getting at, I'm not going to get into anymore detail. Mob mentality or not, you are one F'd up person if you could take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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