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Isn't Jeff Lacy's left shoulder really messed up? I haven't kept up with him for a while, can he still throw that wrecking ball? Wonder if Nick can hang with him here. Not sure how much of an underdog he'll be, but if Lacy's shoulder is still wrecked then maybe he can go the distance.

Whatever, we'll be regretting that GSP and Diaz didn't fight when they were both at their peaks. No reason the GSP fight shouldn't happen next, outside of contract issues I'm not aware of.

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Isn't Jeff Lacy's left shoulder really messed up? I haven't kept up with him for a while, can he still throw that wrecking ball? Wonder if Nick can hang with him here. Not sure how much of an underdog he'll be, but if Lacy's shoulder is still wrecked then maybe he can go the distance.

Whatever, we'll be regretting that GSP and Diaz didn't fight when they were both at their peaks. No reason the GSP fight shouldn't happen next, outside of contract issues I'm not aware of.

this pretty much sums up Lacy at this point: http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/5/6/2157564/nick-diaz-vs-jeff-lacy-official-boxing-vs-mma-georges-st-pierre-ufc-strikeforce

Jeff Lacy is 33 years old and hasn't clearly won a fight since 2005. Since then he's been destroyed by Joe Calzaghe, dominated by a fading Jermain Taylor and a shot Roy Jones Jr., and has gotten past the likes of Peter Manfredo Jr., Vitali Tsypko, Otis Griffin and Epifanio Mendoza by the skin of his teeth. Those are third-rate contenders, and all of them had a solid argument for having deserved the duke over Lacy. He has not looked good in almost six years. Injuries have robbed him of his punching power and athleticism.

If you want to buy into this and believe that Jeff Lacy is still a serious contender, that's nice. I'm glad that you enjoyed using him on video games or whatever. But facts are facts, and to ignore what has been staring people in the face for half a decade-plus is foolish.

I'm not saying there's no reason to be interested in this. Considering that Nick Diaz is a novice boxer at best, this is a perfectly fair matchup for him to delve into professional boxing, if it does indeed actually happen. And I realize that fans of both or either sports are going to inevitably, in some circles, treat this like it truly matters. But this is Nick Diaz trying boxing against a guy whose name value is basically zero at this point, and whose skills in the ring are just plain gone. Nothing more, nothing less.

last time I saw Lacy fight, it was just sad to see. He never recovered mentally from the lopsided beating Calslappy gave him, then the injuries robbed him of his physical gifts. So whats left is a mentally & physically done fighter. I still don't think Diaz will win, but it wouldn't shock me if he were competitive

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Can everyone stop buying into the GSP is too small BS coming from the GSP camp? GSP fought Jake at 192/193 lbs, which means he cut 22/23 lbs to make weight, and if he fought Silva he would only have to cut 7lbs, assuming he trains the same.

Everyone is quick to point out that "Silva walks around at 230 and GSP walks around at 195 max" and let me tell you why this is a BS excuse, GSP stayins in great physical shape every day of the year, he doesn't need extra weight because he does not train the same as other fighters. Silva, needs that weight because he takes time off from training, and needs that weight so when he starts training his body doesn't tire out and loose too much weight.

Silva usually enters the ring in his middleweight fights at between 210-215, 15 to 20 lbs more than GSP would be if he trained the same as he did for Jake. I don't buy the story that a trained athlete like GSP needs 6+ months to put on 5 to 10 lbs ( to make the fighting weight difference about 10lbs). Does anyone here make a deal about fighter size when there is only a 10lb difference between the guys when they step in the cage, the same difference that would be most likely if they fought in Rio later this year. The only exttra time GSP needs is the 60 day supension he got after UFC 129, then either an 8 week or 12 week training camp and he would be ready to go versus Diaz, Silva or anyone. GSP could have fought Silva in Rio if he really wanted it.

GSP is running form this fight for good reason, it will wipe some of that shine of his aura. I think the UFC knows that a Silva GSP fight might kill GSP's marketability (why else did they announce the Okami fight before UFC 129 ahd even started?) , and are riding out the GSP gravy train as long as they can before they even think about scheduling the super fight.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/1745/roy-nelson-advocates-for-three-minute-rounds

Seems like just about everyone involved in mixed martial arts these days has an opinion on judges’ decisions and whether or not a new system is needed to eliminate controversy.

UFC heavyweight contender Roy Nelson is no exception.

Nelson recently told ESPN.com he’d like to see professional MMA adopt three-minute rounds, a length utilized in boxing and most amateur MMA fights. Under the change, a professional MMA fight would rise from three rounds to five and title fights would become 10-round affairs.

There are multiple reasons for switching to three-minute rounds, according to Nelson. Shorter time frames would likely discourage the "feeling out" process often seen in fights. Plus, more rounds could potentially mean more momentum swings -- one of the most exciting aspects of the sport.

“You’d probably see a lot more action because you’re constantly trying to win the round,” Nelson said. “Guys wouldn’t be feeling out for two minutes. It’s boom, you’ve got to go right away.

“They want to add more championship rounds -- that’s where I say switch everything to three minutes and go 10 rounds. Then you have a lot of ups and downs.”

Nelson points to a light heavyweight fight between Quinton Jackson and Lyoto Machida at UFC 123 to illustrate his point. Jackson won a split decision in the fight, conceivably by taking two action-less rounds before being handled convincingly by Machida in the third.

Had that fight been split up into five three-minute rounds, Nelson says Machida would have rightly won the fight.

“Split that up and Machida wins, hands down,” Nelson said. “The first two rounds could have been 10-10, because nothing happened. Then Machida dominated late.”

Another major advantage of switching to three-minute rounds from five is it would, theoretically, make the job of judging fights easier.

Five minutes is more than enough time for both fighters to establish equally effective rhythms. More often than not, Nelson says, the fighter that does so last is the one who wins the round, even if he clearly lost a majority of the time.

“I’d say judges lose sight,” Nelson said. “One guy will dominate for four minutes, the other dominates for a minute and they give the round to the second guy.

I actually like his idea, even though I don't think it will happen.

IMO, a great boxing fight (Gatti/Ward trilogy or Diego Corrales/Jose Luis Castillo I, although they are few and far between nowadays) is still so much more compelling than anything MMA can produce. A large piece of that is because the format doesn't really lend itself for a story to be created within fight.

if I didn't fear lay n prayers feasting on 3 minute rounds, I would have no concerns at all about making a switch to 3 minute rounds

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I actually like his idea, even though I don't think it will happen.

IMO, a great boxing fight (Gatti/Ward trilogy or Diego Corrales/Jose Luis Castillo I, although they are few and far between nowadays) is still so much more compelling than anything MMA can produce. A large piece of that is because the format doesn't really lend itself for a story to be created within fight.

if I didn't fear lay n prayers feasting on 3 minute rounds, I would have no concerns at all about making a switch to 3 minute rounds

I like Roy's idea as well, and the only thing they could do to stop the lay & prayers is to also change the rules on when they stand them up. Wrestlers would hate it, but you would have to change the rule from stand them up if there is little to no action, to stand them up if neither fighter is attempting a new move- for example, just laying on top and throwing the occasional punch would be stopped within 30 sec and the fighters stand up, but if one fighter is constantly changing positions in an effort to make a submission attempt then fight on.

It's about time the wrestling mentality found it's way out of the UFC as it leads to the most boring fights for the general public, the typical I will point my way to a win. It's the reason wrestling is not as popular as the UFC, because great wrestling is very technical and if you don't know the finer points of wrestling it makes for a boring fight.

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Terrible news for UFC 130

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/05/09/frankie-edgar-vs-gray-maynard-off-ufc-130/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter

Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard Off UFC 130 After Injuries Sideline Both

njuries have sidelined both Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard, forcing the cancellation of UFC 130's main event fight, MMA Fighting has learned.

UFC president Dana White confirmed to MMA Fighting that both fighters are out.

According to sources with knowledge of the situation, Edgar broke ribs, while Maynard suffered a knee injury.

The bout would have been the last of the trilogy. Maynard won the first bout in April 2008 in a unanimous decision. In January, the rematch ended in an all-time classic, with Maynard nearly knocking out the champion in the first round before Edgar rebounded and forced a five-round draw.

Maynard-Edgar III is likely to happen in the future, but there is no timetable yet for its scheduling.

With no replacement fight, Quinton Jackson vs. Matt Hamill will be promoted to the main event, while Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson is the co-main event.

The event takes place on May 28 from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

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Well that is a big ol box of suck. It is unfortunate that it is so close to the event and they do not have time to move another fight to the card. Not sure if I will be ordering this one now. Still some interesting fights, but I am not sure...

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Well that is a big ol box of suck. It is unfortunate that it is so close to the event and they do not have time to move another fight to the card. Not sure if I will be ordering this one now. Still some interesting fights, but I am not sure...

Yeah I don't think I can order this one with Jackson/Hamill as the main event. I've ordered the last two and they were both very good, but it gets expensive. Plus 131 & 132 look good enough to buy as well.

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Yeah I don't think I can order this one with Jackson/Hamill as the main event. I've ordered the last two and they were both very good, but it gets expensive. Plus 131 & 132 look good enough to buy as well.

Yeah, I am lucky in that I usually have another person or two chipping in. We'll see. If i don't have anything else going on that night, I just might still order it. But it is definitely not set in stone like it was before the injuries.

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Yeah I don't think I can order this one with Jackson/Hamill as the main event. I've ordered the last two and they were both very good, but it gets expensive. Plus 131 & 132 look good enough to buy as well.

I still want to see Mir vs. Nelson. :)

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I still want to see Mir vs. Nelson. :)

I still plan on watching it..just not buying it.

:paranoid:

my brother is pissed, he is flying out to vegas to see that card

Wow that sucks. There are still some good fights, but it always sucks to lose a main event.

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Shorter rounds will also hurt BJJ guys though too, because they will have a lot less time to try and work submissions.

I agree with this and I think that in the days of old it mattered a hell of a lot more. I mean, how many times did you see Royce Gracie get into the ring with a guy twice his size only to submit him later in the fight? That was his game, wear them down and submit them.

However, in today's MMA, < that being the key word here, MMA; I think you see BJJ specialists taking less and less time to work submissions. The ref's are quick to stand you up when someone isn't working anything, fighters are a hell of a lot more well rounded at defending against sub's so you just don't see too many guys pulling guard to work a sub. Typically, the sub is the result of taking a guy down and working the sub, which takes agression and pace. The sub's you see off of guy's backs, usually the result of a takedown gone wrong. Lol

I think shorter rounds would actually do great things for MMA, get in there, get to banging and see who the better fighter is, not just the guy with the best cardio who can outlast or the guy who can take you down and lay on top of you for 3 rounds. Also, make takedowns all but worthless unless something results from them. A takedown w/lay and pray = nothing IMO. Absolutely worthless unless you attempt to do something with it.

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Can everyone stop buying into the GSP is too small BS coming from the GSP camp? GSP fought Jake at 192/193 lbs, which means he cut 22/23 lbs to make weight, and if he fought Silva he would only have to cut 7lbs, assuming he trains the same.

Everyone is quick to point out that "Silva walks around at 230 and GSP walks around at 195 max" and let me tell you why this is a BS excuse, GSP stayins in great physical shape every day of the year, he doesn't need extra weight because he does not train the same as other fighters. Silva, needs that weight because he takes time off from training, and needs that weight so when he starts training his body doesn't tire out and loose too much weight.

Silva's frame supports more weight, he's taller and longer. I always thought his nickname was based off his crazy arm and leg length. He weighs more because he is more. Like I said, GSP would look like a jockey next to him. He looks like a jockey on a horse meat diet already, and you want him to gain 5-10 pounds of muscle? Phil Baroni anyone? And look at Baroni's gas tank...

Silva usually enters the ring in his middleweight fights at between 210-215, 15 to 20 lbs more than GSP would be if he trained the same as he did for Jake. I don't buy the story that a trained athlete like GSP needs 6+ months to put on 5 to 10 lbs ( to make the fighting weight difference about 10lbs). Does anyone here make a deal about fighter size when there is only a 10lb difference between the guys when they step in the cage, the same difference that would be most likely if they fought in Rio later this year. The only exttra time GSP needs is the 60 day supension he got after UFC 129, then either an 8 week or 12 week training camp and he would be ready to go versus Diaz, Silva or anyone. GSP could have fought Silva in Rio if he really wanted it.

The amount of muscle you can possibly gain in that period is definitely not lbs-worth. Especially when you factor in how much endurance training these athletes have to go through. An aggressively calculated muscle building program would be hindered by the amount of cross-training fighters must go through. It would easily enter the overtraining zone.

GSP is running form this fight for good reason, it will wipe some of that shine of his aura. I think the UFC knows that a Silva GSP fight might kill GSP's marketability (why else did they announce the Okami fight before UFC 129 ahd even started?) , and are riding out the GSP gravy train as long as they can before they even think about scheduling the super fight.

This is, ultimately, the point I'm trying to make. GSP's MMA career is carefully protected. There are fighters who have been so focused on destroying everyone on the planet that it has backfired on them career-wise. For an example, let us compare GSP and Dan Henderson.

- GSP is reprogrammed every fight to score points where his opponent is weaker than he is. He carefully dissects every matchup, and is the best ever at avoiding his opponent's strengths.

- Henderson thinks he can kill anyone on the planet with his right hand. Doesn't matter too much about his opponent's strengths or weaknesses. He wants to take your head off with the H-bomb every fight, that's about it, watch out.

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- GSP is rarely even touched, but when he is, he bleeds, swells up, and tapped to strikes from a former lightweight gatekeeper.

- Hendo's chin is considered one of the best in MMA history because he's been popped so much. Never finished from strikes, never cut, he's insanely durable.

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- George St. Pierre is a brand, a Canadian business, he is on top of the MMA world because of his success. He's living huge because of the stranglehold he has on the Welterweight division. He's locked in, he's comfortable, barely anyone can give him a challenge there. It's guaranteed money, he's the man and he's soaking it up while he has the chance.

- Dan Henderson goes after the best guy they'll let him go after in any weight class - then asks for money. In a perfect world, that kind of attitude would be rewarded the most. But business is business, as they like to say. Hendo will keep wading in and exchanging bombs with the best, even if a loss jeopardizes his marketability.

GSP isn't going after Silva because he thinks livelihood and money first. He's living the dream, he's maximizing his family's lifestyle. Think of your family, living a lavish lifestyle, hugging you and thanking you for what you have brought to them. Houses, cars, gifts, any vacation or food that they want. Chicks hang on you like ornaments on a Christmas tree, you get the best room in the best club in pretty much any Canadian city. You want to risk that by going in to Silva's world of 185 for the first time and trying to stay safe for 25 minutes? A hot one to the chin is all Anderson needs to choke off those top-notch funds to GSP LLC.

The fact of the matter is that not everyone is like Dan Henderson, as much us fans would love for that to be. That Hendo/BJ Penn attitude is effortless to respect, because those kinds of fighters are risking so much in the long run. I'm not surprised St. Pierre doesn't want this fight - he's living the damn life.

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GSP will beat Anderson by taking him down and holding him for 5 rounds. Styles make fights period and honestly I think Shields would do the same exact thing to Anderson. I've helped many of guys cut weight and its hard work when you got a guy just 10-15lbs over. I'd be willing to bet Anderson does'nt walk around at anywhere near 230lbs LIKE STATED ABOVE, especially fighting 2/3 times a year. He loses alot of his defintion and looks pudgy at 205lbs in his 2 fights. Go look at pictures from both weigh-ins he is'nt adding any good weight. He probably trains getting ready for the fights at around 205lbs in fact I believe he weighed in like Hendo does a few lbs under 205 for both his fights. If he is indeed walking around starting training camps at 215-220lbs he is dieting throughout his camp which is retarded he might as well move to 205lbs.

I believe that GSP,Shields and Bones Jones would take him down and control him. I think the most exciting fight would be him and Bones at 205lbs.

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GSP will beat Anderson by taking him down and holding him for 5 rounds.

He might want to check in with Travis Lutter first. Spider's 'bows be sharp. :)

Edit- I should make it clear that I pretty much root against Anderson Silva every time he fights and if he fought GSP I'd root for Georges in a big way.

However, the only true stand-up threats GSP has faced in a loooong time are BJ Penn (whom he did NOT stand with) and Thiago Alves. (Dan Hardy's legit but not as dynamic as the other two.) All the others have been pure wrestlers or back fighters. Groundlings. He does what they do as well as they do it but it's his stand-up prowess that gives him the edge over guys who don't like to throw hands and have zero elusiveness. (Kos has a big punch but only one and it's telegraphed from Beijing.)

St. Pierre wants no part of a standing fighter like Silva who has shown he can submit the best on the mat. That elusiveness, those strikes, that clinch with the knees. Hendo and Sonnen will testify about taking Spider down. It's not a solution.

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GSP will beat Anderson by taking him down and holding him for 5 rounds. Styles make fights period and honestly I think Shields would do the same exact thing to Anderson. I've helped many of guys cut weight and its hard work when you got a guy just 10-15lbs over. I'd be willing to bet Anderson does'nt walk around at anywhere near 230lbs LIKE STATED ABOVE, especially fighting 2/3 times a year. He loses alot of his defintion and looks pudgy at 205lbs in his 2 fights. Go look at pictures from both weigh-ins he is'nt adding any good weight. He probably trains getting ready for the fights at around 205lbs in fact I believe he weighed in like Hendo does a few lbs under 205 for both his fights. If he is indeed walking around starting training camps at 215-220lbs he is dieting throughout his camp which is retarded he might as well move to 205lbs.

I believe that GSP,Shields and Bones Jones would take him down and control him. I think the most exciting fight would be him and Bones at 205lbs.

The outcome of a fight between Silva and GSP is up for debate. The fact of the matter is that there is a very real chance Anderson could figuratively decapitate GSP. If there is any fear we know GSP has, it's that he'll do anything it takes to avoid another Matt Serra 1. That seems to include abandoning a weight class he is mega-suited towards. Let's face it, Anderson is a knockout artist with power, speed and reach that surpasses anyone GSP has fought by a mile. Sure, GSP could win, but if Anderson touches his little head it's going to pour candy.

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