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Bubba has a makeshift knifer's chance, but I'm still taking Jones via eyepokes.

Well of course, but the smart money will be on Jones getting swarmed by a gang over a drug debt on the way to the fight.

Jones via eye poke : -400

Bubba via shank: +300

Gang swarm in shower: EVEN money.

The UFC will partner with the D block Latin Kings to promote the event. Jones will have to stay incarcerated to defend his title as per standard UFC policy.

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As for Miocic or any UFC HW going on a run- I'll believe it when I see it. HW is so thin, Stipe could have just earned the next tirle shot when you factor in injuries.

 

I think Miocic gets the winner of Browne/Arlovski next, and a title shot after that, assuming he wins

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Honda Housey made the cover of SI...voted most dominant athlete on Earth. Debatable, but pretty awesome to see as an MMA fan.

 

Rousey just found her most challenging opponent, the SI Cover curse.

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I think Miocic gets the winner of Browne/Arlovski next, and a title shot after that, assuming he wins

This is my point about HW. What if the winner of Browne/Arlovski beats Miocic? They get the title shot? & how long will they need to heal after? Stipe says his hands hurt from hitting Hunt so much.

If you have a W in the UFC HW division in the past 12 months, that is qualification enough to get a title shot. Compare that to the bottleneck @ 185 & 170 where you have 4 guys ready to challenge for the belt right now.

When Cain gets injured, who fights Werdum? Stefan Struve? Roy Nelson? Big Nog?

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UFC is going to have to restructure that sponsorship deal somehow or it could hurt their ability to keep the fighters just below the top of the card.  When you look at what a lot of the fighters make, compared to their expenses to properly train for their fights, they don't take home a lot merely from their fight salaries.  Sponsorship money is a huge source of income for these guys and UFC basically pulled the rug out from under them because it's a great deal for Zuffa.  No one should be surprised by this when the Fertitas are running things.  Fighters should be free to go out and get their own independent sponsorships, That really shouldn't even be up for debate.

 

Also.  Anyone else think Faber has a decent chance at an upset on Saturday? (Main card starts at 7am Pacific time, btw...set your DVRs)

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I'm pulling for Faber, but Frankie is un-knockout-able (see Grey Maynard).

If Faber wins, it's a decision or a submission (other than a choke).

as for sponsorship dollars, top guys go down, bottom guys go up. I think you will see more veteran fighters with good sponsorship deals jump ship to Bellator as soon as their contracts are up.

Crappy thing is, the UFC has right to match for up to 6 months after the fighter contract is up so they could keep a guy in limbo like Bellator did to Alvarez. The UFC is also smart enough to prevent that info from leaking by way of a confidentiality clause to avoid the bad press.

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The smart money is on Edgar because of Faber's history against championship level talent, however it's not like Faber always got smoked, a lot of his losses were 48-47 decision losses.   Other than the Aldo fight and the 2nd time against Barao (which was a questionable stoppage to say the least).

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as for sponsorship dollars, top guys go down, bottom guys go up. I think you will see more veteran fighters with good sponsorship deals jump ship to Bellator as soon as their contracts are up.

 

The UFC has been plotting this move for a while. They pretty much killed the sponsor market with that sponsor's tax they instituted a while back. Most of sponsors got out the game then. Before the sponsor tax, even guys on the bottom end got 10-15k per fight through their sponsors. The compensation laid out by Reebok is terrible. I could see some fighters getting cut before they reach the top tiers if they're a middle of the pack kind of fighter.

 

 

I'm taking Edgar by decision, he looked pretty damn sharp against Cub last time out and Urijah seems to come up short against the elite fighters. Never have been a Faber fan, still not sure why. He has an exciting style and seems like a good dude overall, but everytime he fights, I find myself rooting for the other guy.

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Rousey just found her most challenging opponent, the SI Cover curse.

 

Between the SI cover, being called the world's most dominant athlete, and quotes like this:

 

 This fight has gone pretty personal for me and when I finish fights quickly, that's really me at my most merciful," Rousey said. "My dad would call it a ‘come to Jesus meeting’. I’m going all the way down to Brazil to a ‘come to Jesus meeting’ with this chick. No, I’m not gonna end it quickly. But not because I can’t end it quickly, because I choose to.

 

It kinda feels like the stars are aligning for an upset. Pride comes before a fall and all that. Her Buster Douglas is out there somewhere. 

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No, any highlights? 

 

 

1. Her mom used to attack her like Kato did to Inspector Clouseau.

 

2. She still really really really hates Miesha Tate.

 

3. She's single.

 

It was a cool interview that covered a lot of her childhood. If you don't have Sirius/XM, I'm willing to bet it turns up on YouTube in the near future.

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I saw more details on the reebok deal. Not only do I think that it will cost the ufc some fighters, it should. It amounts to a massive pay cut for most fighters with no upside other than the ufc makes more money. Even the champions are getting peanuts (40k) per fight under that deal.

The deadspin article says Brandon Schaub, not exactly a household name, was pulling in six figures per fight from sponsors. He's going to make 10k now.

Fighters are going to have to ask if they can afford to fight in the ufc, and that's outrageous. This is nothing more than a unforgivable cash grab by a group that's already keeping entirely too big a piece of the pie when compared to any other major sport.

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So basically, Dana screwed up and changed the format of ppv's which ended up diluting the product. This resulted in a loss of money and interest in the UFC. Instead of trying to put together more exciting cards, he chooses to take more money out of the already poorly paid fighters. I expect a big change in the deal or there will be a max exodus to strikeforce or other outlets.

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This is my point about HW. What if the winner of Browne/Arlovski beats Miocic? They get the title shot?

 

True, and that's a good example of the flaws of MMA math

 

Her Buster Douglas is out there somewhere. 

 

Probably so, but it won't come in the form of Bethe Correia, which we all probably agree on.

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Probably so, but it won't come in the form of Bethe Correia, which we all probably agree on.

 

Yeah, that Buster Douglas might not be in the UFC now. Holly Holm didn't look that great in her debut, Jessica Eye might not get past Meisha Tate. That leaves Amanda Nunes, Marion Reneau, and a still raw Julianna Pena as the only fighters Rousey hasn't already beaten.

 

Is there a 135 lb Joanna Jedrzejczyk out there somewhere?

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I saw more details on the reebok deal. Not only do I think that it will cost the ufc some fighters, it should. It amounts to a massive pay cut for most fighters with no upside other than the ufc makes more money. Even the champions are getting peanuts (40k) per fight under that deal.

The deadspin article says Brandon Schaub, not exactly a household name, was pulling in six figures per fight from sponsors. He's going to make 10k now.

Fighters are going to have to ask if they can afford to fight in the ufc, and that's outrageous. This is nothing more than a unforgivable cash grab by a group that's already keeping entirely too big a piece of the pie when compared to any other major sport.

 

and they have to wear Reebok on top of everything else lol

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I'm thinking Romero wins too. Machida needs to rejuvinate himself after that bludgeoning he just took. Kind of hurrying back in against another super strong dude. He gets beat up badly again and temporary retirement or a long vacation is most likely the next move.

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It's not really Dana, it's the Fertita brothers.  These kind of business practices date back to the way they run their casinos.  Dana is just the front man public persona will is willing to take the public outcry bullets.  You rarely if ever hear the Fertitas answering for these decisions and I believe they want it that way.

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I'm taking Romero. Machida bottom game is very suspect

 

Hopefully Romero remembers that he has arguably the best wrestling credentials in MMA today. I could see Machida dropping him if he plays the standup game for any length of time. Then again, who knows what Machida will look like. I thought he would look to take some time off after that bludgeoning he took at the hands of Rockhold.

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