Air Force Cane Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 THE FABLES OF JESSE/JESSIE MACBETH By Michelle Malkin · May 23, 2006 11:14 AM ***scroll for updates...Just Citizens blog reports that the Army has no record of service from Jesse/Jessie MacBeth...more below...(hat tip: LGF )...12noon update: I just talked to the Army spokesman as well. Paul Boyce told me: "At a minimum, this appears to have been concocted" and "some sort of hoax." Special Ops Command and State Department have been alerted. The uniform issues of the alleged soldier were a "red flag," Boyce said. As were MacBeth's claims to have entered the Army at 16 and exit at age 20, and have been both Army Ranger and Special Ops, and have received the Purple Heart and other medals. I asked whether there would be a criminal investigation. Boyce said they would follow up on any substantial leads.*** "Jesse MacBeth" is currently the Number 2 search term at Technorati. He's the moonbat and purported Army Ranger featured here at "Peace Films" sliming the troops and weaving tales of Iraq war atrocities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Just looking at the guy I can tell he's never been in Special Ops or the Rangers, he looks like he could be a stunt double for an Ethiopian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSW Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Need sunglasses to read that post...could it possibly be ANY brighter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURGUNDYBLEEDER Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I thought his name was John Kerry?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I thought his name was John Kerry?!? good one:applause: :applause: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 did you know John Kerry was in Vietnam? :laugh: The War the Media is Not Reporting — An Iraqi Veteran Speaks Out Printer-Friendly E-Mail ThisApr 26, 2006 By Justice Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse. How did you end up in the military? I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I'd been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn't have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead. How did you become a Special Forces Ranger? Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School. What did your division do? I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people. We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people. We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi'ites or the Sunnis. [in Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won't go into full detail because I'm still haunted by the memories. What was the assault on Fallujah like? Fallujah is where we slaughtered people in mosques. We provoked the people there. Some people escaped from the mosques and saw us. We would dig holes and leave mass graves of children, women, and old men. We were ordered to let people die on the street. We were told that the Geneva Convention means nothing to us in combat. We were ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in Fallujah. Somebody threw a rock at us, and an officer said that he thought it was a grenade. Then we were ordered to fire. When it's daylight in Iraq, it's daylight! Nobody really thought it was a grenade. What medals did you get in Iraq? I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star. What injuries did you get? I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back. What do you think is the role of the U.S. in Iraq? The military is terrorists there. Soldiers thought we were going to fight terrorism, but we became the terrorists. We were told we were going to liberate the country and find weapons of mass destruction. The real aim is to have the U.S. own the country. The U.S. wants oil. How has the government treated you since you got back? Like ****. I hate them. I'm not gonna be a terrorist or anything, but I hate them. They killed my battle brothers. They used me. They messed me up. They didn't care about me. They turned me into a beast, a machine. What Veteran's benefits have you gotten? I ain't getting nothing. A card and that's it. Where do you work? I'm an Iraq vet, and I work at Wendy's. How did you get involved in IVAW? Veteran's Affairs told me they had no money for me. I always knew the war was ****ed up, but that motivated me to say something about it. The government throws us away. They did the same thing after Vietnam. Why do you think people should get involved in the antiwar movement? Because it's gotta stop. Innocent people are getting killed. Bush says we have to stay the course and that it's hard work. Bush doesn't know what work is. Anything else you want to say? Yeah. The news here is controlled. The military lets information out that serves their purposes. We slaughtered a sovereign nation. Reporters got killed. When I was growing up, everyone thought I'd be a criminal, but they were wrong. I'm gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Just looking at the guy I can tell he's never been in Special Ops or the Rangers, he looks like he could be a stunt double for an Ethiopian. Guess you've never been around Delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURGUNDYBLEEDER Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 did you know John Kerry was in Vietnam? :laugh: Yeah I give him a little more credit that to think he would accidentally shoot himself in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Never heard of this guy...........anyway Malkin is rather amusing, got to love this gem ( off her blog) A real soldier: I wonder if Malkin knew about Tillman's politics or his views of the Iraq war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Yeah I give him a little more credit that to think he would accidentally shoot himself in the States. Isn't that what Malkin suggested on T.V.? That somebody should ask if he shot himself. But, she wouldn't even question the lack of evidence that the President was showing up for National Guard duty, or why the people who accused Kerry of lying about that skirmish, just accepted the medals they received for the same event? ugh. She's trash. Btw, I never heard of this Army Ranger guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 uh, you haven't heard of him because it is a FRAUD and he was never even in the military. not that that inconvenient fact stopped the libs over at Democrat Underground from hailing him as a hero when he claimed to be a war criminal and mass murderer. but now that he is a liar- NOW he is a bad guy to those libbies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I've never even heard of this guy, and, even reading his "story," it is wholesale unbelievable. It sounds like something created by Al-Jazeera or some such. There are real war veterans who have opposition to the war; I don't think this does much to discredit them as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I never heard of this guy but his story in the interview AFC posted seems to clearly be BS. Maybe it looks that way because I already know he's a fraud but the answer he gave sounds like someone that is making it up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 uh, you haven't heard of him because it is a FRAUD and he was never even in the military.not that that inconvenient fact stopped the libs over at Democrat Underground from hailing him as a hero when he claimed to be a war criminal and mass murderer. but now that he is a liar- NOW he is a bad guy to those libbies!! Try again. That's the dumbest excuse you've come up with yet. nobody had heard of him because you had to dig and dig to find this this. Maybe it was through Newsmax or another stupid site. But, he didn't get any traction in the 1st place, and somebody needed a punching bag to change the message from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 OT: I like how Malkin posted pictures of people with Saudi and Palestinian flags as somehow Azeri protestors in Iran. :laugh: right wing bloggers... you just have to shake your head sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 What I found interesting was an article posted farther below on that blog, which discusses this: "In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it's OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including: Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful . . . ." Memorizing the Muslim profession of faith: "Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger." Chanting "Praise be to Allah" in response to teacher prompts. Professing as "true" the Muslim belief that "The Holy Quran is God's word." Giving up candy and TV to demonstrate Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting. Designing prayer rugs, taking an Arabic name and essentially "becoming a Muslim" for two full weeks." Part of the article came from this site: http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3&issue=20060519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Serious, wtf? Who was this guy and why is it that no one has heard of this guy except the fringes? Perhaps the real news sources were smart enough to stay away from someone who was as transparent as this guy appeared to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 OT: I like how Malkin posted pictures of people with Saudi and Palestinian flags as somehow Azeri protestors in Iran. :laugh: right wing bloggers... you just have to shake your head sometimes What do you expect from a woman who defended Japanese Interment? Talk about "moonbats" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Guess you've never been around Delta. Delta and rangers are totally different. Delta operators pretty much look like your normal everyday folks, and that's the way they like it from what I hear. They make rangers look like Marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 I love how lefties think that if THEY PERSONALLY don't know something than it can not exist!! try googling first before getting shown up- there are tons of articles about Jesse Macbeth. Just because you don't know what you are talking about doesn't mean other people are in the same boat :doh: so, get ready for a lot of post showing how wrong you are. From "War In Context" Jessie Macbeth update "Regular readers are probably thinking, enough already! But for those of you who just landed here in quest of more information about the infamous Jessie Macbeth video, here's the latest! Iraq Veterans Against the War say (via email): "The film needs to come down now if it hasn't already. No one checked with IVAW before using our logo, no one did any kind of fact checking, and Jesse wasn't authorized to speak like that on our behalf." Peacefilms.org have in fact removed the video and replaced it with a nice topographical image of the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 uh, you haven't heard of him because it is a FRAUD and he was never even in the military.not that that inconvenient fact stopped the libs over at Democrat Underground from hailing him as a hero when he claimed to be a war criminal and mass murderer. but now that he is a liar- NOW he is a bad guy to those libbies!! So basically the only people that have heard of this nut are the moonbats at democratic underground and Malkin fans. That explains why most have never heard of this guy - most people aren't wingnuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 What I found interesting was an article posted farther below on that blog, which discusses this:"In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it's OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including: Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful . . . ." Memorizing the Muslim profession of faith: "Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger." Chanting "Praise be to Allah" in response to teacher prompts. Professing as "true" the Muslim belief that "The Holy Quran is God's word." Giving up candy and TV to demonstrate Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting. Designing prayer rugs, taking an Arabic name and essentially "becoming a Muslim" for two full weeks." Part of the article came from this site: http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3&issue=20060519 Now that is interesting isn't it?:munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 so you are calling "Iraq Veterans Against the War" a fringe lefty group? Nice to know!! www.ivaw.com there have been three articles on him in the last six months in the Phoenix Arizona newspaper but they require a subscription. HIS VIDEO was given huge coverage on the democratic underground site- you can pretend that they are fringies- but it is the SECOND MOST POPULAR political blog on the entire internet behind daily kos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 why does it feel like you spend more time of Dem underground sites than Dems do? Then jump to your far right wing sites to get a counter-crazy balance. try not being so extreme, then maybe you'd get alittle cred around here. Malkin = Crazy. that's lesson #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 HIS VIDEO was given huge coverage on the democratic underground site- you can pretend that they are fringies- but it is the SECOND MOST POPULAR political blog on the entire internet behind daily kos... What exactly is your point? That the internet tends to attract a lot of people on the political fringe. Trust me, I know. There is a reason why the internet is filled with a lot of libertarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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