MRMADD Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Virginia linebacker Ahmad Brooks is headed for the supplemental draft. There has been a lot of talk that Brooks would have been a first-day pick in the regular draft. Don’t buy it. Brooks, who is up around 260 pounds, is not all that explosive. He also has been hurt. But the biggest problem is that when the NFL folks start to do their homework on his personal issues, look for Brooks to tumble as low as a sixth- or seventh-round pick. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12679163/page/2/ This is remarkable to me. Brooks was not "explosive" last year because he was fat and injured. Healthy, he's explosive as hell. Sure, he's got some big-time character issues -- the guy loves the weed -- but he's the son of an ex-Redskin. Seems like Gibbs could straighten him out. If Brooks is only worth a 6th or 7th to other teams, the Skins should put in a 4th round bid in the Supplemental Draft for him. If history is any guide, they won't get anything out of their 4th round pick anyway -- why not use it on Brooks? It's risky to other teams who actually value their 4th round picks, but not for the Skins. Could be the steal of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Who have we ever taken out of the supplemental draft? When is the supp. draft? I read about this kid before and he sounded like a hoss. I wouldn't mind taking a shot with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 In late summer, the NFL also holds a Supplemental Draft to accommodate players who did not enter the regular draft because they thought they still had academic eligibility to play college football. The supplemental draft maintains the same team order from the regular draft, with the team with the worst record in the previous season picking first. However, in the supplemental draft, a team is not required to use any picks. Instead, if a team wants a player in the supplemental draft, they submit a "bid" to the Commissioner with the round they would pick that player. If no other team places a bid on that player at an earlier spot, the team is awarded the player and has to give up an equivalent pick in the following year's draft. (For example, RB Tony Hollings was taken by the Houston Texans in the 2nd round of the Supplemental Draft in 2003. Thus in the 2004 NFL Draft, the Texans forfeited a second round pick). The 1985 Supplemental Draft was particularly controversial. Bernie Kosar of the University of Miami earned his academic degree a year early but did not enter the regular draft that year. Rather than finish his eligibility at Miami, he entered into talks with his hometown Cleveland Browns, who advised him to delay his professional eligibility until after the regular draft. They then traded for the right to choose first in the Supplemental Draft. This angered many clubs, notably the Minnesota Vikings and New York Giants, who had expressed interest in choosing him in that season's regular draft. Many of today's Supplemental Draft rules aim at preventing a reoccurrence of this incident. As of 2006, the players who enter the Supplemental Draft are usually graded as players who should be drafted at a later round, or who have college eligibility problems (poor academic or discipline issues). Only 32 players have been taken in the past 26 Supplemental Drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 If Brooks is only worth a 6th or 7th to other teams, the Skins should put in a 4th round bid in the Supplemental Draft for him. It would help if we had a 4th round pick. :doh: Anyways, considering that we took a couple of tackles in the last draft, and seem to be pretty set at end right now, not to mention all the problems this guy has had, I don't see the Skins risking it. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Why do we need him I don't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I don't think the Skins will do it because they like to stockpile those draft picks. Heck yeah I would do it for a 4th which if you buy into the draft value charts translates to a 5th rounder. I am a big proponent of character but I would take the chance on him. Unlike Marcus Vick I thinks Brooks will be a stud down the road. Assuming they do a thorough interview and health breakdown then I say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 It would help if we had a 4th round pick. :doh: Anyways, considering that we took a couple of tackles in the last draft, and seem to be pretty set at end right now, not to mention all the problems this guy has had, I don't see the Skins risking it. Jason Oh yeah! Well... a 5th then. Seems like some other team will have the same idea with a 5th though But I don't understand how having drafted tackles has anything to do with it. He's a linebacker. Don't let his 260 pound weight fool you -- he's fat around the middle from his lazy rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 Why do we need him I don't understand? You don't think this team is thin at linebacker? The guy was rated as a first-round pick two years ago. He's been compared to Lavar in his athleticism -- of course, comparisons to Lavar aren't the best thing around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDPepper Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 It would help if we had a 4th round pick. :doh: Anyways, considering that we took a couple of tackles in the last draft, and seem to be pretty set at end right now, not to mention all the problems this guy has had, I don't see the Skins risking it. Jason ahmad brooks is an MLB... we have a lot of questions at LB, and if this guy plays up to his potential, he's well worth a FIRST ROUND PICK... we should snatch him up no matter what it takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I'd go for maybe a 5th or 6th. I dont want to give up anything too high next year. Also, Frisco has our 4th next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 It would help if we had a 4th round pick. :doh: Anyways, considering that we took a couple of tackles in the last draft, and seem to be pretty set at end right now, not to mention all the problems this guy has had, I don't see the Skins risking it. Jason Doh, then nevermind about the 4th round. That aside, I'm pretty sure he is projected as an inside linebacker in the Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 ahmad brooks is an MLB... we have a lot of questions at LB, and if this guy plays up to his potential, he's well worth a FIRST ROUND PICK... we should snatch him up no matter what it takes Ug. Sorry, took a look at his weight and made an assumption. Sorry. Even more of a reason not to use a pick on him, considering we have a ton of guys at the position right now. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazye Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 i don't want to be picking up players under the notion that Joe Gibbs will straighten them out. we should pick up players who are straightened out. he'll be more trouble than he's worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Don't let his 260 pound weight fool you -- he's fat around the middle from his lazy rehab. Of course, that could be more telling than anything. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I just checked my Redskins calendar and came across an interesting fact: The Redskins trade draft choices for veterans so many time that they did not have a first-round draft pick in any season from 1969 to 1979 and again from 1984 until 1990 (Most of Gibbs first tenure). With that said, I don't think Gibbs will go after this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Oh yeah! Well... a 5th then. Seems like some other team will have the same idea with a 5th thoughBut I don't understand how having drafted tackles has anything to do with it. He's a linebacker. Don't let his 260 pound weight fool you -- he's fat around the middle from his lazy rehab. You can never have too many lazy football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDannyBoy Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I don't know before the draft I might have said take a chance on him. But we stocked up on LBs that don't have any character issue so I would have to say "pass" and let someone else take a chance on him. Now if the scouting department decides he is worth the risk, go right ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Of course, that could be more telling than anything. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. ANIMAL HOUSE--Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 George Allen traded away all our top 4 to 5 picks each year from 69-79 because he believed in veteran players who didn't make mistakes that rookies make. Unfortunately he didn't always get quality for the picks. Sometimes the players were past their prime and broken down, a la "the over the hill gang" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 we don't need anymore LB's. we have stocked up so many, we won't be able to keep them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I just checked my Redskins calendar and came across an interesting fact:The Redskins trade draft choices for veterans so many time that they did not have a first-round draft pick in any season from 1969 to 1979 and again from 1984 until 1990 (Most of Gibbs first tenure). With that said, I don't think Gibbs will go after this guy. Hot damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Nope, not with his conditioning now There are many reports stating he is 285 right now. He is better suited for DE then LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 we don't need anymore LB's. we have stocked up so many, we won't be able to keep them all. We have a lot of LBs. We don't have a lot of good LBs. I'm not sure quantity trumps quality. If Brooks can return to form, he'd probably be the second best LB on the roster. To me, it's worth a 4th or 5th round pick. There is no way you get that kind of talent, even with the risk, in the 4th or 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 We have a lot of LBs. We don't have a lot of good LBs. I'm not sure quantity trumps quality. If Brooks can return to form, he'd probably be the second best LB on the roster. To me, it's worth a 4th or 5th round pick. There is no way you get that kind of talent, even with the risk, in the 4th or 5th. I disagree. I think our linebackers are good. Not great, but good. We have addressed the depth already. not worth giving up another pick next year. We are already missing our 2nd and 4th. I just don't see the logic in taking this guy. remember, Brian Bosworth was an supplemental pick and look at his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12679163/page/2/ This is remarkable to me. Brooks was not "explosive" last year because he was fat and injured. Healthy, he's explosive as hell. Sure, he's got some big-time character issues -- the guy loves the weed -- but he's the son of an ex-Redskin. Seems like Gibbs could straighten him out. If Brooks is only worth a 6th or 7th to other teams, the Skins should put in a 4th round bid in the Supplemental Draft for him. If history is any guide, they won't get anything out of their 4th round pick anyway -- why not use it on Brooks? It's risky to other teams who actually value their 4th round picks, but not for the Skins. Could be the steal of the year. Not exactly a "character" kind of guy. Didn't we just get rid of a fat lazy idiot LB this offseason? Wasn't that LB also dominant in college? His name was....laver or something, I don't quite recall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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