Paleriders Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Has anyone identified Portis YPC when we pitch the ball as opposed to handing if off? One of the things that drove me nuts last year was the % of time we handed him the ball. His strength is his vision and ability to cut. Add to that his acceleration and there is an argument to increase the number of time we pitch him the ball. One of his best touchdowns last year was against the Rams when they pitched it right. Anyone else notice this last year? Anyone have any stats isolated on production related to pitches? :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 He gets a lot of yards on pitches --- but his TD's were mostly on hand-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Agreed. He always talks about loving to run up the middle and the majority of our runs seem to be straight north and south but I still think he's best getting outside and cutting back or whatever he needs to do. He's tough as hell but when you run a 4.3 and have the agility he does, I'd love to see him get some more tosses/sweeps and get to the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvkeeper19 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The Gibbs offense was built around John Riggins, whose change-of-direction ability resembled that of an 18-wheeler. Al Saunders excelled with nimble guys like Marshall Faulk, Priest Holmes, and Larry Johnson in his backfields. Expect more outside runs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The toss plays were dominating when we had Thomas pulling. Old Ray didnt pull anywhere near as well. Thats a very dangerous play for us I can tell you that, without seeing the numbers. (Allthough it would beinteresting to see, Ill see what I can find) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Agreed. He always talks about loving to run up the middle and the majority of our runs seem to be straight north and south but I still think he's best getting outside and cutting back or whatever he needs to do. He's tough as hell but when you run a 4.3 and have the agility he does, I'd love to see him get some more tosses/sweeps and get to the outside. We led the league in yards rushing outside the tackles. I'll try to track down where I saw that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskn4eva Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 We led the league in yards rushing outside the tackles. I'll try to track down where I saw that information. The second Giants game. It was one of the stats. The giants were worst in the league in outside run defense. I have the game Tivod and watched it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 yeah a lot of his big runs did come on pitches, specifically this one play where sellers or cooley would line up at FB and jansen would pull out and lead. its a good looking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The second Giants game. It was one of the stats. The giants were worst in the league in outside run defense. I have the game Tivod and watched it today. That seems right to me . I'm not sure everyone really gets the KC offense. Johnson alone had 135 carries up the middle last year. Portis had 75. We were already a more spread attack than the offense run by the Chiefs, at least in attacking the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The Gibbs offense was built around John Riggins, whose change-of-direction ability resembled that of an 18-wheeler. Al Saunders excelled with nimble guys like Marshall Faulk, Priest Holmes, and Larry Johnson in his backfields. Expect more outside runs this season. That's a bit extreme...... 44 may not have had CP's feet, but for a power back, the guy was a lot more agile than people think. Admittedly, many of his cuts were not made to avoid people, but rather to seek them out and hurt them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I would like to see more pitches / outside runs too, but I wonder how much of the success of these style of runs was because they were used as a change up - everyone expecting a between the tackle type run? The biggest help will be if our passing attack gets going and the defense needs to run 3 CB's most of the time to try to contain us, and not be able to crowd the box with safties - this should help allot (or at least - I hope it will help allot!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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