Ken Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Pat Watkins FS Florida State. 6'5" 212lbs. 4.45 40. 41" vertical. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/651/f1355878tg.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/wallpapersandsignaturepics/large/bilde.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Which Moss? I dunno 4.45 40...he could still get beat by Moss if he doesnt turn fast enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 this dude looks impressive, we can play hes up there at 230... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 GOOD LORD! Impressive to say the least! Do you think nickel right away of throw him to the wolves right out the shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 GOOD LORD! Impressive to say the least! Do you think nickel right away of throw him to the wolves right out the shoot? I think you hit it on the head... They will get him into a role in the nickle and have him play special teams. They think if he catches on, he has a chance to be special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I think you hit it on the head...They will get him into a role in the nickle and have him play special teams. They think if he catches on, he has a chance to be special. Has the making of a good gunner on PT, and a nice NCB for about 1/2 the season, I think by Week 9 he'll be running with the big dawgs.... But good pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Woo!! Nice pick up by the Cowboys. Kid looks sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1SkinsFan Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Woo!! Nice pick up by the Cowboys. Kid looks sick. I know. If he starts right away and gets used to that defense, he could be a monster. I'd start him at safety next to roy and see what he does. If he sucks just put Coleman back in, and have him be a back up, but if he's great leave him in there. Roy Williams learned well when he started his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz1972 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I know. If he starts right away and gets used to that defense, he could be a monster. I'd start him at safety next to roy and see what he does. If he sucks just put Coleman back in, and have him be a back up, but if he's great leave him in there. Roy Williams learned well when he started his rookie season. roy wiliams learned to horsecollar well in his rookie yr,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that doesnt count :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Well, he photographs well, we know that much. And 4.45 speed is not bad for a safety, but he better play DEEP if he wants to catch Moss. I guess Cooley will still have room to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Potential is a dangerous word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Well, he photographs well, we know that much. And 4.45 speed is not bad for a safety, but he better play DEEP if he wants to catch Moss. I guess Cooley will still have room to operate. 4.45 is outstanding for a safety his size. for perspective, Sean Taylor, cornerback Taylor stood in at 6-2½, weighed 228 pounds (two pounds less than at the combine), and ran for a 4.51 average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The height and weight tell me one thing: He's thin as a rail, and will have a hard time keeping up with smaller wr. Sounds like a plus for Moss to me. And let's not mention that in order for him to be effective he'll have to put on more weight, so that 4.5 40 goes right out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=9294&draftyear=2006 partial info (since it is a pay site) Strengths: Has ideal instincts, range and ball skills as a centerfielder-type FS. He is tall with decent bulk and the frame to get bigger. Possesses very good speed for the position. He is a smooth athlete for a taller DB. Has adequate hip fluidity and COD skills. He is a long-strider that shows closing burst when the ball is in the air. Has good leaping ability, long arms and times his jumps well. He has big hands and excellent ball skills. He defends the jump ball very well and does a great job of adjusting to the ball in the air. He has added a good amount of weight and has gotten noticeably stronger over the course of the last two years. He isn't a big-hitter or overly aggressive player, but he is willing. He wraps up in space and shows good body control as an open-field tackler. He has a real nose for the ball. Has a knack for forcing and recovering fumbles. He's a hard worker who should continue to improve with experience and time in the weight-room.Weaknesses: He is getting bigger but still lacks ideal bulk. Also needs to improve his overall strength. He has decent power in his upper body but lacks the lower body strength and base to take on bigger blockers in the phone booth. He has a tendency to come out of his pedal high and will struggle to transition quickly enough when forced to turn and run. He is far more effective in deep zone coverage than he is when matched up one-on-one Can still improve his recognition skills and diagnose things quicker, which should come with more experience. He's not an overly vocal leader and he needs to do a better job of being the "quarterback of the secondary". Overall: Watkins played some as a sub-package defensive back as a freshman in 2002 and became a consistent contributor in the nickel and dime packages as a sophomore in 2003 before beating out B.J. Ward for the starting FS job as a junior in 2004. Watkins started all 12 games at FS in 2004 and finished with 56 tackles, including four for losses, four INTs and 10 PBU. He also forced two fumbles and recovered two fumbles. Watkins is on the lean side and he isn't an overly powerful player in run support. However, he is a tall centerfielder-type with very good range in deep coverage. He continues to get bigger and has the frame to pack on more pounds, which will help him match up better at the point of attack vs. blockers and bigger ball carriers. However, Watkins is a fine open-field tackler at this point and he is a playmaker in all aspects of the game. Watkins is likely to come off the 2006 draft board by the end of Day 1. Seems like a good risk/reward for the Cowboys. He should compliment Roy Williams very well; you dont want this kid anywhere near the LoS and Williams couldnt cover a turtle with a wet blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 The height and weight tell me one thing: He's thin as a rail, and will have a hard time keeping up with smaller wr. Sounds like a plus for Moss to me. And let's not mention that in order for him to be effective he'll have to put on more weight, so that 4.5 40 goes right out the window. Well, he is now 222lbs, if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvkeeper19 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Potential is a dangerous word. ...As ESPN's expert analysts made sure to point out every three minutes during the draft. The guy is a pretty impressive athlete, but that doesn't mean he'll make a great football player. I'd be concerned about his quickness and agility at that height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 ...As ESPN's expert analysts made sure to point out every three minutes during the draft. Bwah!! Thats so true. How many times did Mark Schlereth say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Bwah!! Thats so true. How many times did Mark Schlereth say it? Well he can’t get more than 3 syllables out anyhow. If you don’t keep it simple for stinky, he might start adlibbing things like "Math is delicious" or something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimster7 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The height and weight tell me one thing: He's thin as a rail, and will have a hard time keeping up with smaller wr. Sounds like a plus for Moss to me. And let's not mention that in order for him to be effective he'll have to put on more weight, so that 4.5 40 goes right out the window. That weight is rather skinny for 6 ft 5 person. Hell I weight 195 6 ft and I consider myself to be fit and don't have much fat on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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