Dirk Diggler Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2422320 Leinart could stay in Pac-10 country with Arizona By Mel Kiper Jr. The Houston Texans might still be considering NC State defensive end Mario Williams with the No. 1 overall pick, but I just don't see them passing on USC running back Reggie Bush. Even if Bush is hard to sign, running back is the one position where a player can come in late and still make an impact in his rookie season. Last year, Ronnie Brown missed the beginning of training camp and still finished with 907 rushing yards while splitting time with Ricky Williams in Miami. I expect the Saints to go with Mario Williams if they do not trade down from the second pick. The draft could get interesting if the Tennessee Titans take QB Vince Young over Matt Leinart. Either Young or Leinart is going to Tennessee, and all indications are the Titans like Young. If that's the case, I have Leinart going 10th to Arizona, although the Lions would have to think long and hard about taking the 2004 Heisman Trophy winner. You can argue that Leinart is one of the top three players in this draft, and if he slips past Oakland, he would be great for either Detroit or Arizona. Bush and Leinart's teammate at USC, RB LenDale White, projects to go to the Pittsburgh Steelers with the final pick in the first round. If anyone can motivate White to realize that football is a year-round job, it's Steelers coach Bill Cowher. First-Round Projections 1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB* USC 2. New Orleans Mario Williams, DE* NC State 3. Tennessee Vince Young, QB* Texas 4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia 5. Green Bay A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St. 6. San Francisco Vernon Davis, TE* Maryland 7. Oakland Ernie Sims, LB* Florida St. 8. Buffalo Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida St. 9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB Texas 10. Arizona Matt Leinart, QB USC 11. St. Louis Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 12. Cleveland Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida St. 13. Baltimore Haloti Ngata, DT* Oregon 14. Philadelphia Chad Greenway, LB Iowa 15. Denver (from ATL) Santonio Holmes, WR* Ohio St. 16. Miami Antonio Cromartie, CB* Florida St. 17. Minnesota Jason Allen, CB/S Tennessee 18. Dallas Manny Lawson, OLB NC State 19. San Diego Winston Justice, T* USC 20. Kansas City Johnathan Joseph, CB* South Carolina 21. New England DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 22. San Francisco (from DEN) Tye Hill, CB Clemson 23. Tampa Bay Marcus McNeill, T Auburn 24. Cincinnati Donte Whitner, DB* Ohio St. 25. N.Y. Giants Sinorice Moss, WR Miami 26. Chicago Chad Jackson, WR* Florida 27. Carolina Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA 28. Jacksonville Nick Mangold, C Ohio St. 29. N.Y. Jets (from DEN) Bobby Carpenter, OLB Ohio St. 30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB* Minnesota 31. Seattle Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 32. Pittsburgh LenDale White, RB* USC * denotes underclassman Second-Round Projections 33. Houston Eric Winston, T Miami 34. New Orleans Ashton Youboty, CB* Ohio St. 35. N.Y. Jets Joseph Addai, RB LSU 36. Green Bay Kelly Jennings, CB Miami 37. Denver (from SF) Anthony Fasano, TE* Notre Dame 38. Oakland Tamba Hali, DE Penn St. 39. Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson, LB Maryland 40. Detroit DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama 41. Arizona Leonard Pope, TE* Georgia 42. Buffalo Davin Joseph, G Oklahoma 43. Cleveland Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon 44. Baltimore Chris Chester, C/G Oklahoma 45. Philadelphia Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame 46. St. Louis Richard Marshall, CB* Fresno St. 47. Atlanta Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech 48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon 49. Dallas Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama 50. San Diego David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.) 51. Minnesota (from MIA) Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami 52. New England Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan 53. Washington Thomas Howard, LB UTEP 54. Kansas City Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 55. Cincinnati Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado 56. N.Y. Giants Claude Wroten, DT LSU 57. Chicago Dominique Byrd, TE USC 58. Carolina Daniel Bullocks, S Nebraska 59. Tampa Bay Cedric Griffin, CB Texas 60. Jacksonville Brian Calhoun, RB* Wisconisn 61. Denver Orien Harris, DT Miami 62. Indianapolis John McCargo, DT* NC State 63. Seattle Mark Anderson, DE Alabama 64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB* Abilene Christian * denotes underclassman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I really doubt that Oakland or Buffalo would pass up on Leinart if he drops to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Great pick for us, I hope he falls that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethrodsp Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Why would detroit pass on Leinart? That would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 53. Washington Thomas Howard, LB UTEP54. Kansas City Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 55. Cincinnati Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado 56. N.Y. Giants Claude Wroten, DT LSU 57. Chicago Dominique Byrd, TE USC 58. Carolina Daniel Bullocks, S Nebraska 59. Tampa Bay Cedric Griffin, CB Texas 60. Jacksonville Brian Calhoun, RB* Wisconisn 61. Denver Orien Harris, DT Miami 62. Indianapolis John McCargo, DT* NC State 63. Seattle Mark Anderson, DE Alabama 64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB* Abilene Christian Very interesting, we will be able to pick from a good crop of players...I predict our pick will come down to the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I guess this is Mel's final draft; does he go into the 5th, 6th and 7th round. I agree with fdarugar; though with that crop of players a trade down to the early 3rd would be good because we certainly could get a one of these quality player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I really don't wanna see Sinorice Moss go tot he Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDannyBoy Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Very interesting, we will be able to pick from a good crop of players...I predict our pick will come down to the last second. Maybe we need another pick this year. The third round could give us a value pick for not a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Man I really hate the fact that we gave up our 3rd rounder for Lloyd. They had to deal him and we could've given up less IMO. If we had a 3rd rounder things would be a whole lot different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 Man I really hate the fact that we gave up our 3rd rounder for Lloyd. They had to deal him and we could've given up less IMO. If we had a 3rd rounder things would be a whole lot different. Huh? Why did they have to deal him? If someone signed him without dealing with SF they could have received a 1st rounder. Lloyd will put up better numbers than anyone in this draft for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Howard at #53 would be acceptable :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Todd McShay has us taking Mathias Kiwanuka http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2423677 ROUND 2 33. Houston Texans Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn 34. New Orleans Saints Demeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama 35. N.Y. Jets Brodie Croyle | QB | Alabama 36. Green Bay Packers Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State 37. San Francisco 49ers Joseph Addai, RB, LSU 38. Oakland Raiders Claude Wroten, DT, LSU 39. Tennessee Titans D'Qwell Jackson | ILB | Maryland 40. Detroit Lions Roger McIntosh, OLB, Miami-Fla. 41. Arizona Cardinals Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU 42. Buffalo Bills Eric Winston, OT, Miami-Fla. 43. Cleveland Browns Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan 44. Baltimore Ravens Daniel Bullocks, DS, Nebraska 45. Philadelphia Eagles Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP 46. St. Louis Rams +Richard Marshall, DC, Fresno State 47. Atlanta Falcons Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma 48. Minnesota Vikings Kellen Clemens, QB, Oregon 49. Dallas Cowboys +Ko Simpson, DS, South Carolina 50. San Diego Chargers Demetrius Williams, WR, Oregon 51. Minnesota Vikings (from Miami) Kelly Jennings, DC, Miami-Fla. 52. New England Patriots Abdul Hodge, ILB, Iowa 53. Washington Redskins Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Man I really hate the fact that we gave up our 3rd rounder for Lloyd. They had to deal him and we could've given up less IMO. If we had a 3rd rounder things would be a whole lot different. Brandon Lloyd will produce alot more than a 3rd rounder would. We basically got a 24 year old starting WR with our 3rd rounder, Ill take that anyday. Remember the draft is a crapshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuDDSL1DE Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 My first pick at #53 is Rocky from The U, but if hes taken i think we should take a LONG look at Mathias Kiwanuka. Hes such a great physical specimen that I think it would be hard to pass on him. Even Gibbs said he just might take the best athlete available. If Mercedes Lewis is avaiable too, I think we should take a look at him. He has great size and seems to make the necessary catches, but does not have great speed. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 53. Washington Thomas Howard, LB UTEP this guy is a freak! I watched the little on demand video thing....I really hope we take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I was very high on Kiwinunka. I still think he can be a great player. Who better to motivate him than Greg Blache? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Drafting Thomas Howard would bring a smile to my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVarGreen2856 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm not very familiar with him... I still hope we wil trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm not convinced Thomas Howard will still be on the board when we pick but I would take him in a heartbeat because he has a tremendous upside. He has gotten better every year and seems to be very coachable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Howard at #53 would be acceptable :-) If we take a LB, lets get Leon Wlms from the U. good kid, hard hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Holy Mackeral, if we could get our hands on Thomas Howard...Unbelievable, I hope this does happen. Thomas Howard: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/thomashoward.html A Former Walk-On Safety who went to U.T.E.P, the only thing that worries me is that it says he does not have good instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Thomas Howard probably wont fall that far, I hope we take him, he is a pure athlete, could really develop into something great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I was very high on Kiwinunka. I still think he can be a great player. Who better to motivate him than Greg Blache? Gregg Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Gregg Williams? :doh: http://www.redskins.com/team/cprofile.jsp?id=30 Greg Blache is the D line coach.. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalSkinsFan Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Here's a couple of overall rankings I used for our mock draft: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&nid=83&lnid=124&yr=2006 http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/top.html They list Howard at #31 and #43 overall respectively. Kind of a big gap between the rankings to be sure, but both represent good value for our #53 pick. Like others said above, Howard posesses all the measurables, and with some coaching he could develope into something special. We can only hope he makes it to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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