Do the skins get too stuck on their draft strategy and guys who have been in?

[golfgram]

My question is whether the skins target certain people so heavily that they potentially miss other people who may fall to them?

An example would be Anthony Fasano. The skins met with him, but if Leonard Pope, Marcedes Lewis, Dominique Byrd all fell to them, would they still take Fasano because they had met with him before.

I don't think the Skins have done a decent job in the middle rounds with the exception of Cooley. It seems like they have taken people they know well rather than best available at times. Certainly a lot of other teams have better track records in the mid rounds.

[CPstretch]

they have a plan, they have had a plan all along, starting back when free agency started. they got their guys then, now we have only a few holes to fill. we will fill them. that is pretty much it.

[brandies]

That is a hard one. I remember one player ranked no. 13 by Mel, and he dropped to 43 I believe and we picked him. That was Taylor Jacobs. The skins have there own ranking which we will never see. For instance, Dockery was rated as a first rounder by them. They scooped him up real quickly when he fell to the third round. I would guess players drop for several reasons. The first is those who rate might have overated them. Second, If teams are going for team need and the draft is deep in an area where there are areas where teams don't have needs a very good player could drop. All in all it is a weighing and balancing situation. For instance, our team needs are LB and CB (less so offensive line) If we are faced with a situation where we have player rated number 53 (LB), player rated number 51 (db) player rated no. 40 (OL) player rated no 35 (DL) player rated no. 31 (TE) player rated no 13 (WR) who do we pick? That is where the dilema in drafting comes in.

[Weganator]

they have a plan, they have had a plan all along, starting back when free agency started. they got their guys then, now we have only a few holes to fill. we will fill them. that is pretty much it.

I hope this is what they are doing.... cuz i have been looking all over the net at possible guys, and if they cant interview some mid round prospects that i like.... or even draft them... then this will be troublesome

[CPstretch]

it would be sweet to be in the war room during the draft and see the skins big board and see where they ranked everyone

[bulldog]

to be fair to Gibbs the Redskins have not had many middle round picks to work with in the draft. part of this has been strategy obviously. the club believed acquiring Brandon Lloyd was part of their draft strategy

Cooley was a great #3 pick. Of course you have to remember we traded up to grab him.

Last year the Skins didn't have a #2 or #3 pick.

The #4, #5 and #7 picks will be back in camp with the team in 2006 and we will have to see whether they are capable of sticking with the club beyond their rookie seasons.

Of course those players were also drafted at positions where the team had capable starters in 2005, so their time on the field was limited.

Was Broughton supposed to get major reps with Portis, Betts and Cartwright in the backfield?

Was McCune going to get reps at linebacker with Lemar Marshall playing 16 games at MLB?

White broke his ankle in training camp and was on IR for the season. No one outside of Redskins Park (and maybe inside as well) knows what to expect from this player in 2006.

[CPstretch]

the likely situation is that those late round picks from last year will get cut. i'd say only one of them has a chance to make the team

[bulldog]

and that's the normal attrition rate for #5, #6 and #7 round picks. Only 10% of them become regular NFLers.

that's why it's nice to have all those cheap second day picks, but to make them work out the front office really has to do an EXCELLENT job of scouting out developmental players.

[CPstretch]

yeah, we get to see just how good scott campbell and louis riddick are

[bulldog]

they weren't very good NFL players, let's hope they are better scouts :laugh:

[Nighthawk]

First off, you're assuming that the Redskins are interested in those players to begin with. Who's to say they don't like Fasano more than they like Leonard Pope, Marcedes Lewis, or Dominique Byrd.

When I read about different players, I try and see if they fit the mold of a Joe Gibbs player.

To me, Fasano fits that more than the other guys listed.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/adpass/protected/prospects/2006profiles/AnthonyFasano.htm

Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame

Strengths

Anthony is a complete TE and a good TE. He has speed and excellent hands. He does a very good job blocking, keeps his balance and uses his hands well. He is a very dependable player that you know is going to do his job to the best of his ability on every play. Anthony is a good in-line blocker for the running game and also can block in space. He's been receiving the ball in the passing game from a QB with a big time arm and running pro-style routes. Anthony is ready to help you right away.

Needs to Improve

Anthony just has to get to the combine as quick as possible and show his speed and quickness. As soon as he does, he'll move up or down the charts depending on those two issues. I believe he will move up.

Bottom Line

Anthony reminds me a lot of another Notre Dame TE, Mark Bavaro. He has the same "after the catch" ability, blocking skills and those quite dependable leadership qualities that made Bavaro a core player and fan favorite for the Giants. Mark was drafted in 1985 (4th Rd) by The New Jersey Giants and went on to have a pretty good career. He will help the team that drafts him as quickly as Heath Miller did this year for the Steelers and he is a significantly better TE than the Klopfenstein kid that so many people (except me) seem to like in this draft. It has been reported that Anthony runs in the 4.75 range, but it wouldn't surprise me if he ran just a tad faster. If he breaks 4.70 and runs in the 4.65 or 4.68 range, teams are going to be falling all over themselves like an old Bugs Bunny cartoon to interview this kid and then will go back to study the film on him. If Anthony runs in the 4.65 area, that means that he'll be as fast as Vernon Davis (TE Maryland), but Anthony is bigger and a better blocker. Although it doesn’t prove that he will be quicker -- but you get my drift. As far as I’m concerned right now, Anthony has 1st round talent. So, if you want a TE with the potential to be as good as Mark Bavaro and the talent to impact right away like Heath Miller did, then you draft Anthony in the first round of this draft. If you don’t draft him, then you sit there at the draft with a big “L” on your forehead as the team that does draft him looks down at you in the standings next year. You see, it’s just that simple!

[CPstretch]

they seem to be doing pretty well the past few years. although i dont see how canty could have been lower on their board than white or whoever we took instead

[Weganator]

they seem to be doing pretty well the past few years. although i dont see how canty could have been lower on their board than white or whoever we took instead

ya i think we are all wondering about that one, but everybody makes mistakes so i guess we can let that slide

[bulldog]

the offseason has been more about grabbing offensive skill talent than anything else. granted Archuleta was added as was Carter.

but the defense looks as if it needs more help right now than the offense.

to take another offensive skill player with the top pick to me would be overkill.

yes, you would have Cooley, Fauria and Fasano at TE and/or HB, but how many catches are out there for 3 guys who are secondary receivers?

meanwhile you leave the team perilously thin at OLB.

if the team does draft an offensive player I would imagine that player just might be an offensive lineman.

we don't seem to have any real depth at OT and Chris Samuels has had knee surgeries in consecutive offseasons.

[CPstretch]

we don't seem to have any real depth at OT and Chris Samuels has had knee surgeries in consecutive offseasons.

i have been saying this for a while as well. OT is a very thin position whereas i think we are fairly deep now at guard and center. i would love to see us grab a good OT, but there arent many

[Weganator]

i have been saying this for a while as well. OT is a very thin position whereas i think we are fairly deep now at guard and center. i would love to see us grab a good OT, but there arent many

find some late rounders for competition...... even though it is kinda off topic.... I want Jai Lewis if he falls to the 7th round....

[CPstretch]

isnt jai going to the supplemental draft? he might very well go undrafted and we could sign him as an FA

[Mister Happy]

Since Gibbs has been here, we've had 2 picks in the 2nd to 4th round - Chris Cooley and Manuel White. White was injured, and wasn't really going to start over Sellers or Cooley anyway.

Our coaches are not big on playing rookies, but 6 of our rookies have seen significant playing time, not just special teams - Taylor, Rogers, Cooley, Patterson, Jones, and Boschetti. 3 of them are starters.

Our draft results are pretty good considering we trade away most of our picks.