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Would anyone else want us to draft Deuce Lutui in the 2nd round?


MikeSellers45

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Depends on the draft board that the coaches have created. Personally, I wouldn't mind it. Not sure, but there might something brewing under the water if Dockery was re-signed for only 1 year. But I doubt it. Plus, Lutui can play both gurad and tackle which will be huge cause all of our backups have not been proven yet. Yes, I know, a rookie is also not proven. But it doesn't hurt that he comes from a pro-style offense.

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Lutui is a big powerful guy, but I don't think he has the speed to pull. I think I would prefer to trade for an early 3rd rounder and get Charles Spencer (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/og/charlesspencer.html). This guy is a pure monster who still needs a little developing. Perfect guy to build depth with and eventually supplant either Dockery (if he leaves next year) or Randy Thomas (who is 30 yrs old).

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Depends on the draft board that the coaches have created. Personally, I wouldn't mind it. Not sure, but there might something brewing under the water if Dockery was re-signed for only 1 year. But I doubt it. Plus, Lutui can play both gurad and tackle which will be huge cause all of our backups have not been proven yet. Yes, I know, a rookie is also not proven. But it doesn't hurt that he comes from a pro-style offense.

Dockery signed his RFA tender and those only cover the next season. Basically, we have a bit of time to give him a longer contract and I'm not too sure that another lineman is needed. Depth at CB, a stud LB prospect, or just going with the best talent available to us is probably the way to go in this situation.

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Look, Ive posted this before and I'll do it again.

Lutui is a man mountain but has bad footwork and is as agile as Dockery if not less. He was the weakest member of the USC line last year and doesnt have the technique or the god given abilities needed to play in a zone blocking scheme.

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I don't think we should spend a 2nd rounder on a TE or DE and I think we can make it with the LBs we got now. I think we need a solid backup O-lineman, and that is what Lutui is.

I wouldn't be looking for depth for the O-line in the draft. If we pick the right guy, he will be a starter very soon, no matter which position of need we go after.

We went after O-line depth last year, but what good did that do? Even Bugel couldn't get any of them to elevate their game, which is why we had to turn to a backup center to play guard in the playoffs, who was later cut himself.

I think we need to look at DE, LB and CB in that order, taking the best talent available.

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I 100% agree. Why pick a back-up as your first draft pick when you could do the same thing later in the draft or in FA. Imagine if we had the first pick in the NFL Draft. What would you say then???

As I'm sure you're aware, there is a major difference between the 1st pick and the 53rd. With number 1, you are picking the best player in the draft and, theoretically, the guy most ready to help an NFL team. A late 2nd rounder is a whole different animal...the guy you pick is not necessarily going to be ready to start for a good NFL team. Certainly, some guys will be able to at that level or below, but it's certainly not a sure thing, especially on a team with as few holes as ours. In fact, if you are looking for an instant starter, the only position you could be looking for is WLB.

I'm not a big fan of a Lutui pick (I think we can get a very solid OG in the 5th/6th) but if we went for Leonard Pope, for example, or Cedric Griffin, I would be happy even though they aren't likely to be starters.

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We could use OL depth, but what we need is a tackle not another guard. Lutui is a strong man but he was moved to guard because he wasn't a very good pass blocking tackle at USC and then ran a 5.40 forty (tortoise speed) at his Pro Day. So he is only suited to play left guard in that he is too slow be pull effectively. So this would be a wasted pick unless we were two-deep at every other position. :doh:

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We need a solid starter type OL drafted in the 2nd round. MIKESELLERS45 is correct about our OL. Dockery could be gone next year with his contract demands being higher than his ability. It would be nice if our pick was a multi-facted Center and Guard.

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IMO OL is probably our greatest need. We have decent LBs on the team with back-ups that have decent upside and game experence. CB is set for this year (Next year could be a problem. We have no decent back-ups on the line.

I'm not saying we pass up a higher rated CB or LB for a lineman in the second but I am saying you darn well better use that pick on OL if that player is rated as high or higher than any CB or LB available. If Davin Joseph or Gilles drop you take either over LBs McIntosh, Howard, Jackson, or CBs Marshall, Youboty, Zemaitis and Griffen.

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