tml6157 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I know there is such a massvie love for Antonio Cromartie on here. I'm one of them i just love this kid. I see our biggest problem being Kansas City at #20. They seem like the suitors to take him possibly the Chargers at #18 but KC worries me the most. Do you guys really think we can get up to #18-20 to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Personally I see KC going after a WR before anything else. They need a playmaker at that position to get them to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The talk in dallas is that we take him with the 18th. Then move Anthony Henry to FS. You might need to move up before 18 if you want him. He seems like he could be the real deal, but injuries have hampered him and he doesn't have a ton of experience. He is somewhat of a risky pick. Especially for a first rounder. That said, the coaches at FSU say he is the most gifted athlete they've seen since Deion Sanders. That is quite a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I love the kid, but I don't think we need another first round CB.. If he falls to us great, I wouldn't trade up to get him.. I think we should really be focusing on LB. I understand clemons is really good, but a GREAT LB would push our defense over the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRock Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Are we still talking to Jamar Fletcher? If we pull him in, I believe we can get by with our DBs. I'm hoping we keep our picks for next year, well then again, it could be pick 32. Maybe it IS best now to trade them to solidy our superbowl run. Eh, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 i was talking on the draft board with a bunch of dallas fans and i think the cowboys should look to take cutler because bledsoe isnt getting any younger and u guys have no one behind him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 yes we do need another first round CB, especially Cromartie someone physical and big bodied like him. Imagine having Sean Taylor playing S and Sean Taylor playing CB. He is just like taylor in his build and skills. KC still needs to improve the defense to put them over the top. Thats what they lack and what kills them every season. Especially the pass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatman28 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 That said, the coaches at FSU say he is the most gifted athlete they've seen since Deion Sanders. That is quite a compliment. LMAO! That punk was the most highly overrated player in the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 i was talking on the draft board with a bunch of dallas fans and i think the cowboys should look to take cutler because bledsoe isnt getting any younger and u guys have no one behind him at all. Dallas and the skins are in the same situation at QB.. Both our backups have about the same amount of experience. Ziltch. Romo sits to pee has been in the system a couple years longer than Campbell though, so I think he has the advantage. Also, Brunell is 5 years older than bledsoe, so he's got some time left. Now I'm not saying QB isn't a need though, I just don't think Cutler will fall that far to 18. And I can't see us trading up for him. I heard Jerry Jones on the radio a week ago or so saying that there is a specific Corner in this years draft that will fall due to injury, and if he does they would like to pick him up and move Anthony Henry to FS. He could just be tossing lies out there like most GM's do this time of year, but he said it nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 That said, the coaches at FSU say he is the most gifted athlete they've seen since Deion Sanders. That is quite a compliment.LMAO! That punk was the most highly overrated player in the league! You are out of your mind if you think Deion was overrated. Maybe by the time he played for you guys or the Ravens, than yeah, but in Atlanta, SF, and Dallas, he was the best corner in the league. And the best cover corner the league has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvkeeper19 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Has everyone forgotten about Kenny Wright, the 16-game starter we just signed? We aren't in bad shape at corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatman28 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 You are out of your mind if you think Deion was overrated. Maybe by the time he played for you guys or the Ravens, than yeah, but in Atlanta, SF, and Dallas, he was the best corner in the league. And the best cover corner the league has ever seen. Whatever makes you sleep better at night and you're out of your mind! Peion never came close to being the CB Green was! Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Whatever makes you sleep better at night and you're out of your mind! Peion never came close to being the CB Green was! Not even close! WERD...Meion didn't even deserve to tie Green's sholeaces, IMNSHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailskipper Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Personally I see KC going after a WR before anything else. They need a playmaker at that position to get them to the next level. Yeah they have no threats at WR. While they need a corner i think that will wait untill round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Assuming Cromardie is our target and we move up to #26 with Chicago, I'm not concerned about KC or Dallas taking him at #18 or #20. K.C. needs a wide receiver real bad or a pass rusher. They have also been talking about possibly signing Ty Law at CB. If they do, they're not going to sign another CB that high. As for Dallas, I hear they really want a safety real bad, like Jason Allen or Huff or a LB first. Of course, Cromardie is big enough that he could probably eventually play safety, but he has started only 1 game in college and is a high-risk, high reward pick for anybody. I think KC or Dallas would take Cromardie with their 2nd round picks, but not in the 1st round. And Deion Sanders was a great CB, at least when he was with Dallas. I can't see the point in bashing Cowboy players, when the reality is they had some great players too. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest santana4prez Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 You are out of your mind if you think Deion was overrated. Maybe by the time he played for you guys or the Ravens, than yeah, but in Atlanta, SF, and Dallas, he was the best corner in the league. And the best cover corner the league has ever seen. I agree that Deion is not overrated he was a beast for Atl ,Sf ,and Dal. I disagree that he was the best cover corner of all time hands down. I actually think Darrell Green and Deion each were shutdown corners in their time so you couldnt go wrong with either one. This is the most I have agreed with you in any thread and I have seen alot of your posts.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I see Dallas either trading up for Culter or waiting and taking Allen simply because he can play corner or safety. they need that most of all not an unproven corner like Cromartie that we can mold where they need someone who can contribute right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I love the kid, but I don't think we need another first round CB.. If he falls to us great, I wouldn't trade up to get him.. I think we should really be focusing on LB. I understand clemons is really good, but a GREAT LB would push our defense over the top... the problems is, there is no GREAT linebacker available to us at #53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 "You. Don't. Know. You think you know, but you just don't know. And you never ... will." Jim Mora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Smash Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 kenny wright is a perfectly serviceable nickel. we need at least one more though, cuz of all the DB's GW uses in his defense and injuries. i just think cromartie would be way too expensive and way too risky. what kind of injury did he have anyway? kelly jennings would be good, but wed have to give up a lot for him too. how bout ricky manning jr.? i really like that guy. his asking price shouldnt be that high, since hes only a nickel guy, and then wed have 4 good corners and more ability to add depth since we didnt trade away the farm for cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm pretty sure that Ricky Manning Jr is still under contract with the Panthers. I'm also pretty sure he's like 5'7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest santana4prez Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm pretty sure that Ricky Manning Jr is still under contract with the Panthers. I'm also pretty sure he's like 5'7" Hes a RFA I dont think the Skins would want trade away more ints even though he was great in the playoffs 3 years ago. Scout.com: Scout™ Database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Off topic Deion was an amazing cover corner, but couldn;t tackle very well. Darrell Green is in another league. They both had blazing speed, were extrememly athletic and versatile and made big plays in big games. The only thing that separates their impact on the game may be there stats, andthose are not always sure indicators of who was a better player or who had more obstacles to overcome. As for CB depth - I would be shocked if this coaching staff didn;t learn from last year's lack of depth ad youth. Kenny Wright is servicable on paper, but what if he pulls a hammy or has a nagging injury similar to Walt Harris? I'm not syaing he's as over the hill as Harris - but anyone who thinks we've sured up the DB depth because we signed a starter from another team (a team that opted not to resign him) is not looking at the bigger picture. The thing most donl;t understand is that it is easier to get away with a mediocre LB than it is a CB. CB's (and Safetites at times) are on an island. There is noone bheind them to cver them if they make the wrong move. Are you prepared to go the season with Ade Jimoh as a starting corner should something happen to Springs or Rogers? I for one feel more comfortable with Clemons, Campbell, Holdman or McCune stepping in to fill in the WSLB spot. Having Washington and marshall next toyu can only help. And having AA and hopefully Taylor behind you will help limit the big play mistakes that are made at the LB spot. CB ARE ON AN ISLAND BY THEMSELVES FOR MOST OF THE GAME! We are not set at DB and sionce Springs prolly has 2 good years left at this level . . . it is imperative that we start grooming another young CB stud like Rogers to step in. Kenny Wright is not the liong term future. We brought him in for the same reason we broght Walt Harris in, to provide depth and experiecne at the nickel spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Off topic Deion was an amazing cover corner, but couldn;t tackle very well. Darrell Green is in another league. They both had blazing speed, were extrememly athletic and versatile and made big plays in big games. The only thing that separates their impact on the game may be there stats, andthose are not always sure indicators of who was a better player or who had more obstacles to overcome.As for CB depth - I would be shocked if this coaching staff didn;t learn from last year's lack of depth ad youth. Kenny Wright is servicable on paper, but what if he pulls a hammy or has a nagging injury similar to Walt Harris? I'm not syaing he's as over the hill as Harris - but anyone who thinks we've sured up the DB depth because we signed a starter from another team (a team that opted not to resign him) is not looking at the bigger picture. The thing most donl;t understand is that it is easier to get away with a mediocre LB than it is a CB. CB's (and Safetites at times) are on an island. There is noone bheind them to cver them if they make the wrong move. Are you prepared to go the season with Ade Jimoh as a starting corner should something happen to Springs or Rogers? I for one feel more comfortable with Clemons, Campbell, Holdman or McCune stepping in to fill in the WSLB spot. Having Washington and marshall next toyu can only help. And having AA and hopefully Taylor behind you will help limit the big play mistakes that are made at the LB spot. CB ARE ON AN ISLAND BY THEMSELVES FOR MOST OF THE GAME! We are not set at DB and sionce Springs prolly has 2 good years left at this level . . . it is imperative that we start grooming another young CB stud like Rogers to step in. Kenny Wright is not the liong term future. We brought him in for the same reason we broght Walt Harris in, to provide depth and experiecne at the nickel spot. sorry about all typos . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 we can afford to wait a few years before taking a CB in the draft. i dont know if it would be wise to trade everything away to get cromartie. next year at this time we might be wishing we hadnt traded away our 2007 first rounder, but we might also be hoping we did and got cromartie. no one has a crystal ball, no one knows what will happen in 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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