endzone_dave Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 A few months ago, the On the Border restaurant at Tysons Corner VA replaced their mainly caucasian serving crew with a mainly Latin American serving crew. Apparently, the owners feel the Tex-Mex dining experience is better if the person serving the food to you is of the same ethnicity as the food itself. The change was so sudden that I'm sure the caucasian serving people had to be let go almost all at once. I feel being released from a job based on your ethnic background, even if you're white, is seriously wrong. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 It's certainly discrimination. If he had hired the waiters when he opened the restaurant I think the situation would at least feel a little bit different. Since he fired the whole existing crew though, it's shady at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1fanofno21 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 im not familiar with the restaurant but if it changed owners and its mostly family then its ok but if they laid off everyone and hired nothing but latin americans its not only wrong its against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yeah, but it can add to the authenticity or feel of the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yeah, but it can add to the authenticity or feel of the place. OK, lets say I own a French Cuisine restaurant and fire all of my non-white employees to add to the authenticity of the place..................if it's wrong, it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 A few months ago, the On the Border restaurant at Tysons Corner VA replaced their mainly caucasian serving crew with a mainly Latin American serving crew. Apparently, the owners feel the Tex-Mex dining experience is better if the person serving the food to you is of the same ethnicity as the food itself. The change was so sudden that I'm sure the caucasian serving people had to be let go almost all at once.I feel being released from a job based on your ethnic background, even if you're white, is seriously wrong. Thoughts? Need more info. As you lay it out, its discrimination, but if its because of other reasons, then not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsbuck Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I'd rather be served mexican food by a mexican than a whitey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hey, don't make an issue of this.... ...else they might be forced to start hiring flat-chested women at Hooters Seriously, did the owners come out and say it was due to ethnic background? What was the reason they gave for releasing those people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I'd rather be served mexican food by a mexican than a whitey. What diff does it make? It's still being cooked by a mexian, now some of you may find that statement racist but its true in like 90% of those places but I do need more details on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hey, don't make an issue of this.......else they might be forced to start hiring flat-chested women at Hooters Seriously, did the owners come out and say it was due to ethnic background? What was the reason they gave for releasing those people? Remember that Seinfeld episode about the restaurant that only hires big breasted waitresses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hey, don't make an issue of this.......else they might be forced to start hiring flat-chested women at Hooters Seriously, did the owners come out and say it was due to ethnic background? What was the reason they gave for releasing those people? No idea. I just noticed it mainly because of how sudden it was. My family and I eat there quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwebst1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I think it's discrimination, but I know there is also a way around some things if you can prove that something/someone negatively affects your business..... If zero people were going to eat there, then all of sudden the place is packed with the new wait staff, maybe they have a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Need more info. As you lay it out, its discrimination, but if its because of other reasons, then not. Yeah...if an all-black staff was fired and all-whites replaced them I'm pretty sure we could call it a FORM of discrimination, even if it's not malicious in intent (meaning, there COULD be other reasons, but none of them pass the common sense test IF the staffing compositions are as he describes them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 It's certainly discrimination. If he had hired the waiters when he opened the restaurant I think the situation would at least feel a little bit different. Since he fired the whole existing crew though, it's shady at best. I agree with this to the extent that they fired workers they had already hired for that themed restraunt based solely on race. Hooters is a good example of how servers can be an integeral part of the theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Remember that Seinfeld episode about the restaurant that only hires big breasted waitresses ? CLASSIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 A few months ago, the On the Border restaurant at Tysons Corner VA replaced their mainly caucasian serving crew with a mainly Latin American serving crew. Apparently, the owners feel the Tex-Mex dining experience is better if the person serving the food to you is of the same ethnicity as the food itself. The change was so sudden that I'm sure the caucasian serving people had to be let go almost all at once.I feel being released from a job based on your ethnic background, even if you're white, is seriously wrong. Thoughts? Do you know for a fact that that's the reason? If the owner told his entire serving crew that he was firing them because they weren't Latino, they would have pretty clear grounds for a law suit. If the ownership changed or the salary-structure changed or there was some other plausible reason for the move, then it's not discrimination - it's just a business decision. When I think "On the Border" I don't really think ethnic food ... I think of Americanized Tex-Mex - it's about as Mexican as Taco Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I think it is discrimination, but I can see why the owners would do so. Having Latino servers adds much more authenticity which could result in better business. Even so, it's not fair to the caucasion servers that had to be released. There are similar latino restaurants here in Harrisonburg that are the same way. Changing the scenario a little, A local ice cream parlor (Klines Dairy Bar) only hires females. Which is probably how it should be. I know a highlight of getting ice cream for me is seeing the attractive girls in the window. Nobody seems to argue and I think the same goes for the tex-mex restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I think it is discrimination, but I can see why the owners did so.Having Latino servers adds much more authenticity which could result in better business. Even so, it's not fair to the caucasion servers that had to be released. There are similar latino restaurants here in Harrisonburg that are the same way. Changing the scenario a little, A local ice cream parlor (Klines Dairy Bar) only hires females. Which is probably how it should be. I know a highlight of getting ice cream for me is seeing the attractive girls in the window. Nobody seems to argue and I think the same goes for the tex-mex restaurants. Who would want ice cream from somoene with a penis:silly: You're right it makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yeah...if an all-black staff was fired and all-whites replaced them I'm pretty sure we could call it a FORM of discrimination, even if it's not malicious in intent (meaning, there COULD be other reasons, but none of them pass the common sense test IF the staffing compositions are as he describes them.) No, that is completely not what I meant. If for example the old waiters werent as good as the new ones, or the old waiters had to leave to attend university or something, or the new waiters were more qualified and had better credentials. Common sense dictates to wait and see, rather than jump to conclusions, so lets have all the facts come in first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I think it is discrimination, but I can see why the owners did so.Having Latino servers adds much more authenticity which could result in better business. Even so, it's not fair to the caucasion servers that had to be released. There are similar latino restaurants here in Harrisonburg that are the same way. Changing the scenario a little, A local ice cream parlor (Klines Dairy Bar) only hires females. Which is probably how it should be. I know a highlight of getting ice cream for me is seeing the attractive girls in the window. Nobody seems to argue and I think the same goes for the tex-mex restaurants. Hot JMU girls or just females? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hot JMU girls or just females? Definitely hott JMU girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 CLASSIC! "Did you hear about this restaurant that only hires big-breasted women?" "You don't say..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 A few months ago, the On the Border restaurant at Tysons Corner VA replaced their mainly caucasian serving crew with a mainly Latin American serving crew. Apparently, the owners feel the Tex-Mex dining experience is better if the person serving the food to you is of the same ethnicity as the food itself. The change was so sudden that I'm sure the caucasian serving people had to be let go almost all at once.I feel being released from a job based on your ethnic background, even if you're white, is seriously wrong. Thoughts? Actually, this is illegal, and any worker fired would have the right to sue and would win. If.. they get a good lawyer and can document that the changes made were based on ethnicity, or in this case "ethnic feel". This is often times a tough thing to prove in court, which is why you don't hear more about. But, technically, its illegal.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I agree with this to the extent that they fired workers they had already hired for that themed restraunt based solely on race. Hooters is a good example of how servers can be an integeral part of the theme. Like I said, it's a different situation in my eyes if the restaurant starts out with a theme. Anyway, hiring people based on certain physical characteristics is discrimination by definition. The question is whether it's morally wrong in any particular case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 If one day all the white people walked in and found out they had been replaced by brown people then yes, it is discrimination. i find it hard to believe that it transpired in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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