Big Weirdo Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Harsh words from PFT for McNabb: http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm McNABB SOUNDING A LITTLE LIKE LORD FAVRE An industry source pointed out to us on Monday morning recent comments from Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, which suggest that the leader of the franchise isn't thrilled with the team's lack of activity free agency. "Well, I mean, it's somewhat frustrating at times, when you're seeing other players that possibly could help you out joining other teams," McNabb told Bob Grotz of the Daily Times of Delaware County, "especially in your division." McNabb, in our view, sounds a little like Packers quarterback Brett Favre, who openly has been bemoaning the team's failure to improve itself through free agency as he supposedly wrestles with the decision as to whether he'll return for 2006. And words like that are a bit out of character for McNabb, who typically is the consummate company man. The source who tipped us off to the story surmises that McNabb's comments are aimed at least in part at the failure of the Eagles to make a play for receiver Antwaan Randle El, who signed with the Redskins in the early days of free agency. McNabb, we're told, lobbied hard for the team to sign Randle El. Both players coincidentally are represented by agent Fletcher Smith. McNabb's words also make us wonder about a few wild (we had assumed) rumors we'd heard earlier in the offseason that McNabb might want out of Philly. We could never develop anything concrete in this regard, but his most recent statements at least warrant careful watch of the entire situation, since this could be something that will escalate as time passes. And as we've seen on various occasions over the past few years, a Pro Bowl player who sours on his team can find a way out of town no matter how many years are left on his deal. McNabb is signed through 2013, with salaries that jump to $5.5 million in 2006, $6.3 million in 2008, $9.2 million in 2009, and $10 million in 2010. In the final year of his contract, McNabb is scheduled to make $16.21 million. How set in stone is it that McNabb will play out that deal? Just ask the Vikings, who also had Daunte Culpepper signed through 2013. My opinion on this? I'm glad he's speaking up. McNabb is the man. I want to hear everyone elses opinion but please remember that half of you have often said PFT is the worst source of news for football. So before you go mouthing off choose your words carefully. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvkeeper19 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I love it. His lack of confidence in his own team points to a couple of wins for the 'Skins next season. In all seriousness, it is baffling to see how teams with as much free cap space as Philly fail to make big-name acquisitions, while other teams like Washington conduct maneuvers with very little money to spend and are able to bring in hordes of free agent talent. Different front office philosophies, I guess, but I can't understand why anyone would take the approach that Philly has. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 ill put more worth into what McNabb has to say than Favre, and McNabb is right, the team hasnt really made any moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles78 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I love it. His lack of confidence in his own team points to a couple of wins for the 'Skins next season.In all seriousness, it is baffling to see how teams with as much free cap space as Philly fail to make big-name acquisitions, while other teams like Washington conduct maneuvers with very little money to spend and are able to bring in hordes of free agent talent. Different front office philosophies, I guess, but I can't understand why anyone would take the approach that Philly has. :logo: The Eagles' philosophy has been pretty sucessful thus far, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross3909 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 It is strange knowing how close the Eagles are to being the class of the division again yet they refuse to fill the few areas of need that would put them there. Especially while the rest of the teams in the East are improving so much. If I were the Eagles I would realize that they have the best QB in the East, and young promising runner, a good Defense and Westbrook. All they need to do to make a strong push into the playoffs is sign some talent to WR, depth at the lines and maybe depth at Running Back. We will see if last year was really an exception or if the Eagles are starting to decline. If they are I could see McNabb wanting out to a team that will surround him with some talent so he can get to the next level. As much as I dislike the Eagles, McNabb is still a great QB...I would say one of the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altair4 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Dissention in the ranks.....can only be good for the 'Skins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The Eagles' philosophy has been pretty sucessful thus far, no? Depends on how you define success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Harsh words from PFT for McNabb:http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm [/color] My opinion on this? I'm glad he's speaking up. McNabb is the man. I want to hear everyone elses opinion but please remember that half of you have often said PFT is the worst source of news for football. So before you go mouthing off choose your words carefully. That is all. you want to hear everyone elses opinion but only in the way that you want to hear it? you like mcnugget should humble yourself a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles78 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Depends on how you define success.Well obviously it hasn't resulted in a super bowl victory, but the rest speaks for itself. Let's just put it this way: The Eagles have enjoyed a whole lot more success than most NFL teams over the past 6 or so years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well obviously it hasn't resulted in a super bowl victory, but the rest speaks for itself. Let's just put it this way: The Eagles have enjoyed a whole lot more success than most NFL teams over the past 6 or so years. So have the Colts...but nobody in Indy is jumping for joy like Eagles fans. McNabb should be pissed. They lose TO and replace him with Gaffney? Give me a break. If I were him, I'd want out of Philly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well obviously it hasn't resulted in a super bowl victory, but the rest speaks for itself. Let's just put it this way: The Eagles have enjoyed a whole lot more success than most NFL teams over the past 6 or so years. True, but the Eagles have an opportunity to push themselves over the top. We all know that with McNabb and their current players the Eagles are dangerous, TO showed that with a talented WR the Eagles could be dominant. Now with no TO, and McNabb & Westbrook both coming off of injuries, the Eagles are still dangerous, but they had plenty of opportunities to add players that could push them over the top to get the ring that has eluded them for years. So, I would say that the definition of success for the Eagles would have to be getting over the top, not just getting to the playoffs, but winning the SB. It's a lot like the Atlanta Braves, they have for the past 14 or so years won their division, and that sounds great. But they've only won one World Series, in that time span. At that point it's like saying, "Yeah, we could try to win it all, but I'll still settle for just getting to the playoffs.". At what point do you say, "I'm not settling for less, I'm going to do what it takes to get to that next level."? The Eagles seem to be content with just making it to the playoffs every year, and not going anywhere from there. And that to me, is not what you call success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 True, but the Eagles have an opportunity to push themselves over the top. We all know that with McNabb and their current players the Eagles are dangerous, TO showed that with a talented WR the Eagles could be dominant. Now with no TO, and McNabb & Westbrook both coming off of injuries, the Eagles are still dangerous, but they had plenty of opportunities to add players that could push them over the top to get the ring that has eluded them for years.So, I would say that the definition of success for the Eagles would have to be getting over the top, not just getting to the playoffs, but winning the SB. It's a lot like the Atlanta Braves, they have for the past 14 or so years won their division, and that sounds great. But they've only won one World Series, in that time span. At that point it's like saying, "Yeah, we could try to win it all, but I'll still settle for just getting to the playoffs.". At what point do you say, "I'm not settling for less, I'm going to do what it takes to get to that next level."? The Eagles seem to be content with just making it to the playoffs every year, and not going anywhere from there. And that to me, is not what you call success. This is what I call the "PERFECT POST!" :applause: :applause: :applause: Someone give'em a beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I've been reading PFT for about four? years now, first site i check in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles78 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 True, but the Eagles have an opportunity to push themselves over the top. We all know that with McNabb and their current players the Eagles are dangerous, TO showed that with a talented WR the Eagles could be dominant. Now with no TO, and McNabb & Westbrook both coming off of injuries, the Eagles are still dangerous, but they had plenty of opportunities to add players that could push them over the top to get the ring that has eluded them for years.So, I would say that the definition of success for the Eagles would have to be getting over the top, not just getting to the playoffs, but winning the SB. It's a lot like the Atlanta Braves, they have for the past 14 or so years won their division, and that sounds great. But they've only won one World Series, in that time span. At that point it's like saying, "Yeah, we could try to win it all, but I'll still settle for just getting to the playoffs.". At what point do you say, "I'm not settling for less, I'm going to do what it takes to get to that next level."? The Eagles seem to be content with just making it to the playoffs every year, and not going anywhere from there. And that to me, is not what you call success. Well, I'm just hoping last year was an anamoly. I still think the Eagles are building in the right direction at the moment. If they were somehow able to get Walker all this talk about not upgrading the WR core would evaporate immediatley and it would look like passing up on Moulds was a great idea. Even if the Eagles don't get Walker, I still believe the Eagles have enough talent on offense to be successful and make that push. McNabb has already proven that he can win with less than stellar WR's. Remember, the Eagles are still one of the youngest teams in the NFL. Next season will reveal a whole lot, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 you want to hear everyone elses opinion but only in the way that you want to hear it? you like mcnugget should humble yourself a bit. No. Re-read what I said. But if you want me to spell it out for you then I can. Most people on this site say PFT is one of the worst sources of football news and thats fine. The reason I made that disclaimer at the bottom of my post is because I know a lot of fans will be quick to agree with this because it bashes McNabb even though those same fans say PFT is an illegitimate source when it comes to anything Redskins related. Those people can't have it both ways. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 It kinda surprises me, and from what I've seen from PFT on here, I wouldn't put too much faith in it. McNabb has always tried to keep things in-house, so I can't really see him changing that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 "Well, I mean, it’s somewhat frustrating at times when you’re seeing other players that possibly could help you out joining other teams -- especially in your division," McNabb said. "But we have our nucleus here. We have our guys that we know that can go out on the field and make plays for us. I’m sure the draft is going to help us in so many ways, so we just have to take full advantage of it." Full quote, PFT is reaching, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 This is what I call the "PERFECT POST!" :applause: :applause: :applause: Someone give'em a beer! I've been saying that forever!! :laugh: We all have!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 "Well, I mean, it’s somewhat frustrating at times when you’re seeing other players that possibly could help you out joining other teams -- especially in your division," McNabb said. "But we have our nucleus here. We have our guys that we know that can go out on the field and make plays for us. I’m sure the draft is going to help us in so many ways, so we just have to take full advantage of it."Full quote, PFT is reaching, as always. Thanks MOF. I've been looking for the actual article on this. Someone said there was more to quote. Interesting how PFT left out that little tidbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The Eagles had their run. They finished near the top, added TO and got their shot at the Super Bowl. They missed. A lot of the pieces (Vincent, Douglas, Runyan, Thomas, Simon, Dawkins) have gotten older or have left. This team is in transition. They are not in complete free fall and should be a competitive 8-8 type club, but are in need of retooling to be the 12-4 contender they were 2-3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 This season is going to be sweet. Keep doubting the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 It would seem to me that this statement is way overblown. If McNabb is a little frustrated so what, it depends on the true context of how he said it. It appears that he really wanted EL to come to his team and was frustrated it did not happen. PFT is making news where there isn't any. I am sure there are many QB's that wanted that also. For the Eagles fans here what is the status of McNabbs health, is he going to be able to do his offseason workouts in AZ this year? I would be more concerned for McNabbs health and offseason than what he is saying about getting players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 No. Re-read what I said. But if you want me to spell it out for you then I can.Most people on this site say PFT is one of the worst sources of football news and thats fine. The reason I made that disclaimer at the bottom of my post is because I know a lot of fans will be quick to agree with this because it bashes McNabb even though those same fans say PFT is an illegitimate source when it comes to anything Redskins related. Those people can't have it both ways. Sorry. i read it once, that was enough. your post came across as pretty condescending, THAT is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I actually like Donovan McNabb as a player. I hate him when he steps on the field against the 'Skins, but I would listen to him if I were Andy Reid. I've noticed the Eagles' lack of activity in the offseason as well, and part of me says that they still have a playoff team when they're healthy, but another part of me says that maybe some of these guys are getting a little old and the Eagles could use some depth. I think that now would be a good time for Reid to start thinking about some future players on his team and adding some decent second-stringers to prevent what happened last year from happening again....but as always, I definitely wouldn't be disappointed to see Philly have a bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 i read it once, that was enough. your post came across as pretty condescending, THAT is all. Well since you're the only one who's said anything I'll assume everyone else understood what I meant. Sorry I came across that way. Not meant to be that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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