A different kind of terrorist...

[OaktonSkins/BushFan]

http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/index.html

31 March 2006

Meeting Doctor Doom

Forrest M. Mims III

Copyright 2006 by Forrest M. Mims III.

Recently citizen scientist Forrest Mims told me about a speech he heard at the Texas Academy of Science during which the speaker, a world-renowned ecologist, advocated for the extermination of 90 percent of the human species in a most horrible and painful manner. Apparently at the speaker's direction, the speech was not video taped by the Academy and so Forrest's may be the only record of what was said. Forrest's account of what he witnessed chilled my soul. Astonishingly, Forrest reports that many of the Academy members present gave the speaker a standing ovation. To date, the Academy has not moved to sanction the speaker or distance itself from the speaker's remarks.

If the professional community has lost its sense of moral outrage when one if their own openly calls for the slow and painful extermination of over 5 billion human beings, then it falls upon the amateur community to be the conscience of science.

Forrest, who is a member of the Texas Academy and chairs its Environmental Science Section, told me he would be unable to describe the speech in The Citizen Scientist because he has protested the speech to the Academy and he serves as Editor of The Citizen Scientist . Therefore, to preclude a possible conflict of interest, I have directed Forrest to describe what he observed and his reactions in this special feature, for which I have served as editor and which is being released a week ahead of our normal publication schedule. Comments may be sent to Backscatter . Shawn Carlson, Ph.D., Founder and Executive Director, Society for Amateur Scientists.

There is always something special about science meetings. The 109th meeting of the Texas Academy of Science at Lamar University in Beaumont on 3-5 March 2006 was especially exciting for me, because a student and his professor presented the results of a DNA study I suggested to them last year. How fulfilling to see the baldcypress ( Taxodium distichum ) leaves we collected last summer and my tree ring photographs transformed into a first class scientific presentation that's nearly ready to submit to a scientific journal (Brian Iken and Dr. Deanna McCullough, "Bald Cypress of the Texas Hill Country: Taxonomically Unique?" 109th Meeting of the Texas Academy of Science Program and Abstracts [ PDF ], Poster P59, p. 84, 2006).

But there was a gravely disturbing side to that otherwise scientifically significant meeting, for I watched in amazement as a few hundred members of the Texas Academy of Science rose to their feet and gave a standing ovation to a speech that enthusiastically advocated the elimination of 90 percent of Earth's population by airborne Ebola. The speech was given by Dr. Eric R. Pianka (Fig. 1), the University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert who the Academy named the 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist.

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[Stigmata]

Pianka then began laying out his concerns about how human overpopulation is ruining the Earth. He presented a doomsday scenario in which he claimed that the sharp increase in human population since the beginning of the industrial age is devastating the planet. He warned that quick steps must be taken to restore the planet before it's too late.

Saving the Earth with Ebola

Professor Pianka said the Earth as we know it will not survive without drastic measures . Then, and without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number.

He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse . War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved.

Pianka then displayed a slide showing rows of human skulls, one of which had red lights flashing from its eye sockets.

AIDS is not an efficient killer, he explained, because it is too slow. His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola ( Ebola Reston ), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs.

After praising the Ebola virus for its efficiency at killing, Pianka paused, leaned over the lectern, looked at us and carefully said, “We've got airborne 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that.”

OMG this is incredible Joseph Gerbels revisited..

[twa]

This is hardly a new theory,scientist have preached as the population expands disease will mutate to control it.

Ain't that what evolution is about?

Judging from this opinion below from the link, the writer believes airborne Ebola could be contained. :doh: YEAH RIGHT.

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Must now we worry that a Pianka-worshipping former student might someday become a professional biologist or physician with access to the most deadly strains of viruses and bacteria? I believe that airborne Ebola is unlikely to threaten the world outside of Central Africa. But scientists have regenerated the 1918 Spanish flu virus that killed 50 million people. There is concern that small pox might someday return. And what other terrible plagues are waiting out there in the natural world to cross the species barrier and to which scientists will one day have access?

[skinfan2k]

man this is nothing. the US Govt needs to here JACK Bauer.. all will be solved with him

[Drockvb]

Are they gonna spray his neighborhood first?

[Destino]

The guy sounds like a comic book bad guy. Totally out of his mind!

[Larry]

Um, I think Tom Clancy already did that one.

(Although, granted, he used a stolen jetliner as a weapon, too.)

[Sarge]

I suppose, being "smarter" than the rest of us combined, he is going to be spared

WHat a fruit

[OaktonSkins/BushFan]

Hopefully he's on the FBI's radar screen. I also wouldn't mind a little NSA wiretapping for good measure. I wish this guy would save us taxpayers some money and just pick up a gun and shoot himself in the head.

[Ancalagon the Black]

What are we saving the planet from? If his "doomsday scenario" comes true, humans will be at an unsustainably high population. They will then die of a lack of resources. The planet won't give a crap one way or the other.

[Larry]

I'd also point out another hole in his theory.

If you could magically wipe out 90% of humanity in a month, how long do you think it would take for the population to return? 30 years? 50? 100?

How long is 50 years in "The life of the Planet" (to put things in melodramatic terms)?

Yeah, when the population regrew, things would be different. The catastrophe would change a lot of things.

But anybody who thinks he knows how things would be different, now there's somebody who really thinks he's God.

[NYFootballGIANTS]

Even if you wiped out 90% of the world's population, that still leaves like 600 million people. It would not take that long for the population to return. Even if it took like 200 or 300 years to do so, the Earth is estimated to be about 4.3 billion years old. A few hundred years is nothing in comparsion and such a short reprieve would hardly save the planet.

[ChocolateCitySkin]

This is hardly a new theory,scientist have preached as the population expands disease will mutate to control it.

Ain't that what evolution is about?

Judging from this opinion below from the link, the writer believes airborne Ebola could be contained. :doh: YEAH RIGHT.

...

Must now we worry that a Pianka-worshipping former student might someday become a professional biologist or physician with access to the most deadly strains of viruses and bacteria? I believe that airborne Ebola is unlikely to threaten the world outside of Central Africa. But scientists have regenerated the 1918 Spanish flu virus that killed 50 million people. There is concern that small pox might someday return. And what other terrible plagues are waiting out there in the natural world to cross the species barrier and to which scientists will one day have access?

Diseases that kill the host quickly never have an efficient mode of infection-- I always understood there to a direct correlation between the damage a virus or bacteria does to the host and it's communicability. Hence, the reason ebola is only a problem for people wallowing in a contaminated jungle.

Atleast, thats why I thought its so much easier to get the common cold as opposed to HIV.

[skinz1972]

Diseases that kill the host quickly never have an efficient mode of infection-- I always understood there to a direct correlation between the damage a virus or bacteria does to the host and it's communicability. Hence, the reason ebola is only a problem for people wallowing in a contaminated jungle.

Atleast, thats why I thought its so much easier to get the common cold as opposed to HIV.

the earth abides forever,it isnt going anywhere:ebola,aids,mad cow.whatever you can kill all the humans on earth....it will still be here

[OaktonSkins/BushFan]

the earth abides forever,it isnt going anywhere:ebola,aids,mad cow.whatever you can kill all the humans on earth....it will still be here

Amazing insight.

I'm waiting for you to reiterate the old, tired claims of black radical racialists that ebola, AIDS, etc. were invented by the white man and unleashed in Africa to facilitate genocide blah blah blah

[skinz1972]

Amazing insight.

I'm waiting for you to reiterate the old, tired claims of black radical racialists that ebola, AIDS, etc. were invented by the white man and unleashed in Africa to facilitate genocide blah blah blah

actually,it can be proven that aids was man-made.

[OaktonSkins/BushFan]

actually,it can be proven that aids was man-made.

Go ahead. The floor, as they say, is yours.

Will you also claim that it was a "white devil" male and that his evil purpose was to decimate the black population in Africa?

[The Sisko]

Ebola generally doesn't spread by air well unless it's weaponized. In most cases transmission occurs due to physical contact with contaminated persons/items and poor sanitary practices. Therefore, the author of the article is right to say that it would most likely be a much bigger killer in the developing world than elsewhere. However there are so many variables in such a scenario that it's hard to tell what might happen. A dangerous nutjob.

Speaking of which, Skinz1972's comments about AIDS probably come from this site

However, the AIDS conspiracy theory page above seems to quote the following page http://www.avert.org/origins.htm however does little if anything, to give proof of why they think the avert.org page is wrong.

From The Avert.org Page

The Conspiracy Theory

Some say that HIV is a 'conspiracy theory' or that it is 'man-made'. A recent survey carried out in the US for example, identified a significant number of African Americans who believe HIV was manufactured as part of a biological warfare programme, designed to wipe out large numbers of black and homosexual people. Many say this was done under the auspices of the US federal 'Special Cancer Virus Program' (SCVP), possibly with the help of the CIA. Some even believe that the virus was spread (either deliberately or inadvertently) to thousands of people all over the world through the smallpox inoculation programme, or to gay men through Hepatitis B vaccine trials. While none of these theories can be definitively disproved, the evidence they are based on is tenuous at best, and often ignores the clear link between SIV and HIV, or the fact that the virus has been identified in people as far back as 1959. They also fail to take into consideration the lack of genetic-engineering technology available to 'create' the virus at the time that AIDS first appeared.

However to be fair the government is at least 90% at fault for the mistrust of the healthcare system and the conspiracy theories commonly held by many African Americans due to the Tuskegee study.

[Baculus]

The population issue has been a subject of doomsday discussion since the 60's (and as early as the 50's) when some scientists forsaw the quickly increasing population, the lack of resources, and the resulting wars and instability resulting from this exceedingly high population.

Now, here is the conspiracy part of this angle (Gasp! From me?) Since this was seen as an issue as early as the 50's and 60's, this has been linked to population control programs (also know as a PCP) by the governing elite. Basically, the thought is that mankind cannot manage itself and they, the Elite (or Globaliists, Illumaniti, etc...) have decided that they will control the population to forestall the population explosion. Thus, some diseases, such as HIV, that have been attributed to nature are actually population control efforts. Theories have even tried to link UN health programs to intentionally infecting populations with diseases though a PCP (which are also know as Coercive Population Control (CPC) Programs). These are thes same organizations that feel that mankind is an unmanagable animal that needs a caretaker.

Yeah, as many of you would think of conspiracy theories, it sounds crazy. Implausible? Well, as you can see from this speech, elitist scientists believe they know better. This is not to say that the population boom ISN'T an issue, but this does not give anybody the right to decide everyone's fate with black operation PCP (or CPC), if that is the plan or has been the plan.

p.s. I just read the above post, so I don't mean to be redundant with some of this information!

[Mad Mike]

Right out of the SciFi book "Natures End". :doh:

Tell you what doc, you can start now by killing yourself.

[Thiebear]

I'd put forth if you killed 5.5 billion people and left 500 million.

250+ million would die due to the bodies left behind... etc..

Leaving 250 million and fulfilling the Brainiacs prophesy of the world not being able to handle all the humans and us dying off..

He's been reading Stephen Kings Gunslinger series and using it at meetings????

[Larry]

Go ahead. The floor, as they say, is yours.

Will you also claim that it was a "white devil" male and that his evil purpose was to decimate the black population in Africa?

No, no, no.

It was invented by a "white devil" male Republican, and it was intended to kill gays. (And other Democrats.) And it's worked, just look at recent elections.

[Larry]

However to be fair the government is at least 90% at fault for the mistrust of the healthcare system and the conspiracy theories commonly held by many African Americans due to the Tuskegee study.

I'll agree that people have a really long memory when it comes to their government lieing to them. Things like that have long-term effects.

I'll also claim that the response to AIDS by the Reagan administration, when the disease first became a media issue, (Which at first could be summarised as "Well, it's only killing people we don't like, so what's the problem?", and then later became "What we need to do first is create a national database of people who have this disease, so they can be more effeciently discriminated against"), didn't exactly help inspire trust and confidence.

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Wow, what a nutjob. That is a scary thought about some of this clown's, or another wackjob scientist like him's, loony "disciples" getting a job that has access to some of these nasty infectious diseases.

Reading this does make me want to watch 12 Monkeys again though.

[Destino]

However to be fair the government is at least 90% at fault for the mistrust of the healthcare system and the conspiracy theories commonly held by many African Americans due to the Tuskegee study.

How many people do you think even know what that is? That kind of stuff gets left off the history books and it certainly isn't the only example.