MidPennSkin Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I think celebrations of all types are classless. They detract from the game. I don't watch football to see some jackass acting like a clown, I watch to see great teamwork and great individual plays. Billy White Shoes Johnson and Mark Gastineau and their heirs have corrupted the game. Entertainment is good play, not scripted displays of self-congratulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconBlue Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 On the one hand I understand the sentiment of some of the more conservative folks here but on the other I wonder just how much fun has to be legislated out of this game. You can get a fine of thousands of dollars these days just for wearing the wrong color socks for christ's sake. I understand the value of good sportsmanship as much as the next guy but I'll be damned if I want to watch a bunch of boy scouts either. And one other thing, I do not appreciate those would presuppose to tell me how I should feel about the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Unless its a game winning TD with no time left they should just hand the ball to the referee. What are they celebrating anyway, an individual accomplishment, has nothing to do with team. The RB can celebrate but the big guys up front who opened the hole for him has to walk to the sideline, thats BS. I have never liked celebrating until the final whistle blows and the whole team can participate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins82 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 no disrespect but this is supposed to be entertainment. they get paid bank so somebody better be entertaining me!!!! with all these new rules making football a fag sport is starting to get old so all we have left is the dances. without that, there is no point to even watch the games since they have all these stupid rules that they didnt have back in the day when all the "GREATS" were playing. Yeah, and he happens to be dead on right. If you want to see grown men dance, go to a club. The dancing crap has been way out of hand for a long time in the NFL. It's distracting, unsportsmanlike, and foolish. Spike it or toss it to the ref like the truly greats have always done.Think about it....Riggins, Barry Sanders, Emmitt, Rice, Monk, they didn't need to dance in the endzone. The closest Monk came was the "Fun Bunch" and that was outlawed! What truly great NFL players dance in the endzone? Truly great, like the players I listed above. No, T.O. and Chad Johnson are not truly great. Hail, H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryClark4Canton Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 ... Of course, the thought of making up some new dance or skit everytime I do my job is tempting... I keep picturing my local Fedex delivery guy doing a river dance or some jig every time he delivers a package to my door step lol.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 with all these new rules making football a fag sport wow. just. wow. Get off the field and act like you have been there. No need for the bling bling effect. Football does not need it. It looks a whole lot better to see John Riggins flip the ball to the ref. To me THAT is the biggest slap in the face you could give another team. It is like "here's the ball, that was easy. When we are ready I will do it again." Plus how does all this dancing look like when the other team drives the field and beat you with a last second field goal. Who is the ***** looking like a chump then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 steve smith had the best celebration last year given the team he did it against. when he scored a TD against the vikings, he sat down and started rowing a boat and then turned around and started rowing it really fast. it was funny since it happened right after the sex boat incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4172tehR3d5k1n5 Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 no disrespect but this is supposed to be entertainment. they get paid bank so somebody better be entertaining me!!!! This is the best argument that I've heard so far. I love the dances. I even went to Chad Johnson's web site and suggested a celebration for him (believe it or not he has a forum for that). He should take the ball, pretend it's a grenade, pull the pin w/ his teeth, lob it over his shoulder, and "hit the deck". Endzone celebrations are also another way of getting non-sports fans interested. My wife may not love football, but she enjoys watching the creative ways scoring is celebrated, and if that is what it takes for her not to complain that I watch too much football than I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethrodsp Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Only Chad Johnson and Steve Smith should be able to do their celebrations. At halftime on Monday night, we can all vote on the best and either the Panthers or Bengals would get +5 points. hmm... Seriously though, I dont care because we really dont have those types of showboats on our team. Its disrespectful sure, but fun to see none the less. Not my style personally though and thankfully not Santana's or Portis' (at least to the extent of Chad Johnson or Steve Smith). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'm sure someone probably already posted this, but the players themselves came up with the idea to ban the celebrations. I heard this monday from Rich E. on NFL Ch.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswin Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 What I don't like is the in between plays; they celebrate when they make a simple tackle!! That's the celebrating that irritates me. The end zone stuff is fine with me but celebrating after you tackle a guy for a simple 3 yard gain??? Stop all the "in-between" celebrations and leave the endzone stuff alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critz1407 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I like the celebrations I believe they bring character to the game. They are creative and entertaining. I know if I got into the endzone I would want to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Native,NC_Fan Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Yeah, most of these guys act childish enough off of the field. They can at least pretend to be mature adults ON the field. Sometimes I wish I was brought up to like hockey or tennis. :doh: Oh, well. :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 This ain't your daddy's NFL anymore. Just because they have celebrations doesn't mean they're great players. Chad Johnson and TO have repeatedly destroyed opponets. If you want to get ol'skool, why not just keep them out the endzone? Oh, I know why, because they can't be stopped. Let the players have as much fun as possible. They're always a play away from never playing again, and I don't believe a lot of ya'll understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I couldn't care less as long as we still got the Santana Shimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 In the rules celebration flag is at the discretion of the official. Some celebration is allowed, but overlt dramatic situations will be 15 yards. The Santana Shimmy is not against the new rules in the way I read them. Only displays that are drawn out tanting ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefense Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I think the endzone celebrations are bush and unprofessional ... I loved when Riggins just flipped the ball to the ref in one easy silky motion. Ban em I say. :applause: I agree! I think its way over due. Im sick of all the unprofessional little boys out there acting like idiots. This is football, not a dance contest. Im also upset the cameras even film this cheap, embarrassing crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefense Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 On the one hand I understand the sentiment of some of the more conservative folks here but on the other I wonder just how much fun has to be legislated out of this game. You can get a fine of thousands of dollars these days just for wearing the wrong color socks for christ's sake. I understand the value of good sportsmanship as much as the next guy but I'll be damned if I want to watch a bunch of boy scouts either. And one other thing, I do not appreciate those would presuppose to tell me how I should feel about the game. I agree, and I believe we are seeing action, before it gets too carried away. If theres nothing done, for ex. the socks. Sooner or later your gonna have half the team (the immature ones) wearing every color sock there is. My belief is, these guys can't act like the pros, then they shouldnt be in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonian B&G Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Much has been made about the NFL's recent attempt to crackdown on extravagant touchdown celebrations. Many journalists, like the Washington Post's Michael Wilbon, cry foul on the 'No Fun League' - but I, for one, am in favor of the crackdown. (Before saying anything else, let me state I am not opposed to TD celebrations; I don't think players should simply hand the ball to the ref after a score. I'm all for reasonable celebrations - spikes, high fives, dunks, shimmies, and so forth. Six points means a lot in football, and I think players should be allowed to recognize that as such.) However, in my opinion, people like Chad Johnson - supremely talented but self-centered hooligans - have taken celebrations past the point of reason. It's become a distraction. I want to watch a football game with ongoing thoughts of, "Who's going to make the next big play? Who will commit the next turnover?" I really dislike watching games where the announcers keep reminding viewers they're wondering what Chad Johnson (and others like him) will do once he scores. These pre-planned, choreographed celebrations have nothing to do with the game. The antics have become ridiculous - albeit occasionally funny and creative. A few years ago, MTV hosted one of its wacky sports exhibitions in which celebrities and players alike played a football game with altered rules. One of these alterations was a panel of judges who awarded points to touchdown scorers, points which would be talled onto the team's actual total score. For MTV, I thought this was fantastic. A brilliant alteration for a silly event - solely for the purpose of entertainment. The NFL has too much integrity, of course, to ever permit itself to adopt such ridiculous changes, but seriously - how close are we coming to the MTV approach by encouraging more and more outrageous celebrations? And, who are the players we're celebrating when they pull these stunts? Chad Johnson? Terrell Owens? Deion Sanders? Are players of this ilk not notorious egomaniacs who will do anything to draw attention to themselves? I, for one, can't stand players like this; I was devastated when Deion joined the Redskins, though I dutifully rooted for him and the team. You can call me old-school and out-of-touch, but to me, football is a game about eleven players doing their jobs for a common purpose. Any player who repeatedly makes concerted efforts to stand out in this way, using outrageous antics in the vein of T.O. and Chad Johnson, makes my stomach turn. (And don't even THINK about bringing up Portis' weekly dress-up press conferences as a counter-argument. It's quite well-documented Portis' primary aim is to keep the locker room light; he's even managed to get other teammates involved on occasion. Chad Johnson dances for the sole purpose of attracting attention to himself and garnering more interview time at his locker room stall - that's it. It doesn't do anything for team morale when you're up in the stands hugging a cheerleader; it just makes half your team think you're a jerk [however talented].) Some of you will call me a depressing old-school stodge for this post. But let me say I'm 23, a liberal, and am all for improving the governance of the game. I will restate that, officially, my issue is with the league's permittance of flagrant and unnecessary distraction from the game on the part of emboldened individuals. Personally, I think such characters and actions soil the bonds of teamsmanship; additionally, I find such individuals violate the integrity of the football by gauchely sensationazling one of it's most crucial components, the touchdown. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLover Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I agree with the ban...you have to admit you could see the escalation in antics...I think props are stupid, and a distraction. I love when guys do their little wiggles or dances or hop into the stands with the fans. I completely miss the Skins Fun Bunch celebration - now please explain to me what was the big deal with that. it showed team unity and was over in like two seconds...not the "ooohhhh look at me look at me !!!" mentality. I actually agree with all they allowed and all they banned. It was getting way over the top, and you just never knew where it would end in the future. As a women, the proposal thing was retarded. Give me a break. I would be pretty ecstatic if one of those boys jumped in my arms in the end zone though!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akorn22 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 The problem the league has is that football is now becoming a "dance off". Every player needs to come up with the newest, best, and most unique endzone celebration just so that they can go home and see themselves on SC. I don;t know what to feel. I think that after a TD you can celebrate with your teammates, and high five and that's it. What shouldn;t be done is what Chad Johnson does : puches away his teammates just so he can take the spotlight, and show off his new stupid dance. I hate when Chad doesn;t high five a fellow teammate, jsut so he can dance. That to me is the most selfish, unsportsmanlike, thing anyone could do. THe only think i liked that Chad Johnson did was the Christmas thing (the only reason i like that is because it was a nice act towards fans). It is true that the extra 30 seconds of dancing really doesn;t interfere with much. But i think the league just doesn;t like players taking the spotlight for themselves. Dances is a good way to fire up a game. It can get a defense to become really intense when they see someone celebration a score, and it leads to better games. Like I said, I don;t know what to feel on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubisyohankovic Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 as said above, if you don't want them celebrating, don't let them score. Thanks. We (here on this message board) will try to play better defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 i like the policy, these players should quit tooting thier own horn...and if you say one of your favorite parts about football is the celebrations then you obviously dont know much about the game. just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 i also feel that if we got rid of espn the sports world would be a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Love the new rule. Shoot, TO and Chad acted like they had never seen an endzone before. Unprofessional antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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