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An article on the Spaghetti Monster!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-03-26-spaghetti-monster_x.htm

Worship of the Flying Spaghetti Monster — "Pastafarianism" as it is known to its adherents — began as a whimsical side dish in last year's standoff between advocates of evolution and intelligent design. FSM, as it is known to its followers, took shape in a protest letter to Kansas officials who were embroiled in a controversy about how to teach students about the origins of life. The parody religion leapt from those pages to become an Internet phenomenon, finding fans among supporters of the theory of evolution —— and receiving e-mailed threats of bodily harm from evolution's opponents.

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I'm not trying to restart the debate with this thread, goodness knows we've been over that again and again and again.

I just thought it was funny that the often referenced Flying Spaghetti Monster shows up in the USA Today.

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An article on the Spaghetti Monster!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-03-26-spaghetti-monster_x.htm

Worship of the Flying Spaghetti Monster — "Pastafarianism" as it is known to its adherents — began as a whimsical side dish in last year's standoff between advocates of evolution and intelligent design. FSM, as it is known to its followers, took shape in a protest letter to Kansas officials who were embroiled in a controversy about how to teach students about the origins of life. The parody religion leapt from those pages to become an Internet phenomenon, finding fans among supporters of the theory of evolution —— and receiving e-mailed threats of bodily harm from evolution's opponents.

It looks like the FSM theory has evolved so that it is now better than Intelligent Design. :D

Originally FSM had a beer volcano in heaven for believers, but there was no explanation of how an intelligent designer such as the FSM would have made so many mistakes we see in nature, such as junk DNA. Now I see that the FSM had visited the beer volcano before creating life on Earth. It's all starting to make sense. :cheers:

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Somebody send King Brice a PM and make sure he sees this. :laugh:

PS....why doesnt FSM have any sauce? He's ALL POWERFUL and he can't get no SAUCE? WTF!

He is the true FSM. He don't need no sauce, just a tad of olive oil to keep him nice and slippery.

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He is the true FSM. He don't need no sauce, just a tad of olive oil to keep him nice and slippery.

See this is where the religion divides into sects.

Baptist Pastafarianist believe that He just needs olive oil.

Catholic Pastafarianist believe that He was anointed with a nice tomato basil.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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...but there was no explanation of how an intelligent designer such as the FSM would have made so many mistakes we see in nature, such as junk DNA...
Yet behold the evolutionist's nightmare, the most execellent banana!

banana.jpg

Notice if you will that the banana has 3 ridges on the far side and 2 on the near; corresponding to the creases in your hand as you hold it.

It also has a flip top, similar to a soda can. The wrapper helps you determine the state of the contents: green=not ready, yellow=just right, black=expired.

The wrapper peels easily and lays ergonomically over the hand. Its curved toward the mouth and has a tapered end for ease of entry. Its also easily digestable and readily supplies essential nutrients such as potassium & B vitamins. Banana's are also a perfect carbohydrate for a balanced meal of carb & protein with about 140 calories.

Last and possibly most important (to those who care about the environment!) the wrapper is bio-degradable and good for the environment.

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See this is where the religion divides into sects.

Baptist Pastafarianist believe that He just needs olive oil.

Catholic Pastafarianist believe that He was anointed with a nice tomato basil.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

oh...it's on now. There is no way he was annoited with Tomato and basil. You are evil personified. You need to be pastafied, and drown in the blessed, sacred olive oil. :D

Infidel :laugh:

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Yet behold the evolutionist's nightmare, the most execellent banana!

[picture]

Notice if you will that the banana has 3 ridges on the far side and 2 on the near; corresponding to the creases in your hand as you hold it.

It also has a flip top, similar to a soda can. The wrapper helps you determine the state of the contents: green=not ready, yellow=just right, black=expired.

The wrapper peels easily and lays ergonomically over the hand. Its curved toward the mouth and has a tapered end for ease of entry. Its also easily digestable and readily supplies essential nutrients such as potassium & B vitamins. Banana's are also a perfect carbohydrate for a balanced meal of carb & protein with about 140 calories.

Last and possibly most important (to those who care about the environment!) the wrapper is bio-degradable and good for the environment.

How many times does this same tired argument have to be debunked?

http://www.skepticwiki.org/wiki/index.php/Bananas:_The_Atheist's_Worst_Nightmare

"The argument is of such dubious quality that it could very easily be mistaken for a parody, and hardly merits serious discussion at all. However, in the rare instance that you may come across a starry-eyed creationist, then it could be helpful to keep in mind some of the problems of this argument:

In nature, it is beneficial for fruits to have an attractive exterior. This encourages animals to eat them, spread their seeds and allow the fruit to reproduce. This would indicate that the fruit's appearence is nothing more than natural selection at work, rather a divine designer trying to impress us with shiny surfaces.

Bananas were not designed by cosmic intervention, but by humans. Bananas are one of the first fruits domesticated and cultivated by human beings a little more than 7000 years ago [2] Humans have bred bananas selectively for smaller seeds and a tastier banana, in much the same way we have cultivated seedless grapes and watermelons.

Wild uncultivated bananas are inedible by humans and contain seeds, this fact would appear to be contrary to belief that bananas were designed with humans in mind. [3]

If this argument were really given serious consideration, then it is really a wonder why many other edible fruits and seeds have thorns or tough husks. These are perfectly reasonable features to expect as a product of evolution, but quite incredibly awkward when considering as a product of divine design.

As is typical with design arguments, it is unjustifiably anthropocentric. In particular, as much as the colors of a banana would serve as an indicator of it's inner content to humans, it very likely served as an indicator to animals. In this case, the colors of the banana are a product of evolution, not foresight into future human consumption.

Further anthropocentric bias is the remark that bananas are shaped for the human hand, and shaped for the human mouth. There is no reason to believe that the banana is intended for human mouths and hands any more than it is intended for monkey mouths and hands.

Much of the evidence for design cited are superfluous, such as pointing out that the banana has a biodegradable wrapper (what makes the banana any more special than the billions of other organisms that biodegrade in nature?).

The comparison between soda cans and bananas is a false analogy. The theory of Natural Selection does not address the origins of objects of recent arrival. Had bananas only been in existence for less than 100 years, as the Coca-Cola can, we would be more apt to posit a designer.

There is an amazing array of things much more wonderful and complex than a soda can, for which we need not assume any intelligent design or purpose. They all share this property at least: a billion-year evolutionary heritage. Lacking this, the soda can does not belong in this class, and we must admit another explanation.

And finally, for those with a mind in the gutter, the argument is ripe (no pun intended) for parody value. The author of Godless****.com has put together a telling parody about the banana fruit as a perfectly engineered sex toy [4].

[edit]References

[2] Lentfer, Carol. "Tracing antiquity of banana cultivation in Papua New Guinea."

[3] The Fruit Pages - Banana Fruit Information.

[4] (link may not be safe for work). The Godless ****. "Got Logic.""

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As is typical with design arguments, it is unjustifiably anthropocentric. In particular, as much as the colors of a banana would serve as an indicator of it's inner content to humans, it very likely served as an indicator to animals.
So humans are different than animals? I thought we were a product of evolution? Dude you lost me with the contradiction. Are humans just evolved animals or not? How can you have a purpose for living if your just an animal? If your not just an animal, well you know what that means. ;)

PS, I'm never tired of this argument. :)

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Can't you guys give the debate a rest and just bathe in the everloving warmth of all that is the Flying Spaghetti Monster??

:laugh: ahh, but which FSM, we seem to have a debate about if he is in blessed, sacred olive oil or then heathenistic tomato basil? :D

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