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AFC,

I think you should read the graphic novel before you open your mouth on this one.

;)

For those who don't have a freakin' clue..

V is an anarchist who is trying to overthrow a fascist English government

It's set in a world in which the Nazi's (may have) won WWII.

From wikipedia if you don't believe me...

a extreme right-wing fascist single-party state has arisen, called Norsefire, using its control on food during the nuclear winter, with government-controlled media, secret police, a planned economy and concentration camps for racial and sexual minorities with an emphasis on technology, especially closed-circuit television monitoring in the mode of George Orwell's 1984.
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I can't wait to see it. It's definitely more of a freedom fighter movie than a "pro-terrorist" movie. I have not read the comic, but from what I have read about it, it sounds just as The Evil Genius said, it's like a "what if" movie about a fascist government taking over England after an apocalypotic event. And yes, while it is supposed to be an anti-right wing allegory, it sounds more like an extreme, worst case scenario allegory. I like how it appears to be drawing comparisons to Batman Begins.

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Fatty,

I definitely recommend tha graphic novel, especially if you have read the Watchmen (same author - Alan Moore).

Be warned though, the artwork and storyline are layered and complex. I hope the movie does it justice.

In short, I think V is more a "Robin Hood" character who is trying to give power back to the people. His fight is against a rightwing fascist government.

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Fatty,

I definitely recommend tha graphic novel, especially if you have read the Watchmen.

Be warned though, the artwork and storyline are layered and complex. I hope the movie does it justice.

In short, I think V is more a "Robin Hood" character who is trying to give power back to the people. His fight is against a rightwing fascist government.

Ditto this. I would have read 'V for Vendetta' as a standard graphic novel if I wasn't familiar with Alan Grant's methods from reading 'The Watchmen.'

As cool as the movie looks, with luck it will reach even greater heights by retaining some of the depth that Grant achieved in the original work.

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Fatty,

I definitely recommend tha graphic novel, especially if you have read the Watchmen (same author - Alan Moore).

Be warned though, the artwork and storyline are layered and complex. I hope the movie does it justice.

In short, I think V is more a "Robin Hood" character who is trying to give power back to the people. His fight is against a rightwing fascist government.

Just heard the "Watchman" movie was shelved.:mad:

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actually I always know what I am talking about, else I keep my mouth shut.

So let's see, we have a Priest who rapes women, who also used to be a military officer. The evil fascist government is run by white right-wingers. The citizenry are kept under control like an Orwellian society from 1984 and are thrilled when the terrorists annihilate the government.

Yea, because that happens SO OFTEN in the last twenty years.

Oh, I forgot! As long as it bashes right wingers, the military, the Church and doesn't antagonize Jihadist Islamic fascists we are good to go in Hollywood :rolleyes:

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What part of the phrase "this looks like a lousy movie" do you not understand?

Now everyone in the world has to agree with your taste in movies?!! :rolleyes:

"V" for Propaganda

By Debbie Schlussel www.debbieschlussel.com

"If you liked the politics of last weekend's Oscar nominees, you'll love "V for Vendetta." It's an exciting, quality Bin Laden film. But if you're like the rest of mainstream America--you support our troops, believe in firmly responding to terrorists on our own shores, and/or respect Christianity--then, don't waste your time at this piece of garbage masquerading as a superhero movie. It is anything but. If most other Hollywood films subtly whisper of an agenda, "V" clocks you over the head with it with a still sizzling, iron frying pan of extreme leftism. It doesn't arrive in theaters until March 17, but already the mainstream (ie. liberal) movie critics and entertainment media are raving about this egregious attack on our war on terror.

Natalie Portman, Guy Fawkes Mask-wearing "V" Are Terrorist Heroes

Based on the graphic novel series of the same name, "V" comes complete with all the bogeymen the far left loves to hate: NSA spying and wiretaps; government renditions and torture complete with Abu Ghraib hood fashions; lecherous, elderly Christian clerics in collars raping young girls; Islam, gay rights, and free speech under attack; and even a Bill O'Reilly-esque evil cable talk show host/wicked pharmaceutical billionaire/heinous military officer combo rolled into one character. Oh, and by the way, the hero of the movie: He's a terrorist in a Guy Fawkes mask, who blows up important government buildings. Sound familiar? His mask might as well be a kefiyeh wrapped around his head in a Nick Berg video.

The movie takes place in futuristic England, and there is only one American star (Natalie Portman, who plays the terrorist's protege). But it's quite clear to whom the "commentary" is directed: Joe and Jane American. When this movie takes place, "the United States of America" doesn't exist anymore. America is in the midst of a civil war. And America and the war on Iraq are the enemies--along with Christians and the right--in this movie. We are treated to newscasts about how "America's War [on terror] spread to England." One character--a gay, British Jay Leno type who hosts a latenight show--keeps a secret vault of prohibited items, including a giant poster of "the Coalition of the Willing," depicting the American and British flags surrounding a swastika. Think about our troops fighting and dying in Iraq, before you decide to give your dollars to this film. Do you really think they are Nazis?Also in the secret vault of sacred prohibited items: a Koran. Portman, whose Evie is the "heroine" of "V," asks, why the Koran? "Are you a Muslim?" she asks the late-night host. "No, but its [the Koran's] images are beautiful." Then he comments about how he can be executed for possessing the Koran. (Not a peep in this film about the thousands who've been executed in the name of the Koran and "its beautiful images.")

In "V", while Islam and the Koran are treasured but prohibited, Christianity is pure evil. We've already mentioned the high-ranking Christian priest, who regularly rapes young girls procured for him through an "agency." Before the priesthood, he was an evil military officer at a hospital where politically dissident youth had experiments conducted on them for the government (complete with Abu Ghraib-style hoods).Then, there's the government. It's run by a religious Christian zealot. But not just any Christian zealot.

No. Chancellor Sutler is the supreme evil Christian. In order to get elected, he and the Bill O'Reilly-esque character (remember, before he became a cable host, he was a pharmaceutical CEO and made billions) arranged for hundreds of Brits to die from chemically poisoned water. The government said that terrorists did it, a story which became accepted fact and the conventional wisdom in media coverage. The fear that ensued garnered Sutler the chance to rule England, along with the martial law powers the English parliament gave him. It's no coincidence that the symbol used for his government is some sort of Cross-cum-Swastika combo. Not offended yet?Under religious Christian zealot Sutler, gays are rounded up, imprisoned, tortured, and executed. Ditto for any dissidents, any left-wing activists, anyone who dares speak out against or flout the Chancellor's actions.

Under the religious Christian Chancellor, "unjust" Gitmo-style military tribunals and absurd NSA-style wiretapping is going on at every corner. Throughout the movie, we are shown vans of law enforcement personnel listening in to every home. As if that's what NSA wiretapping was about. It isn't, but "V" drills it into you the way the ACLU wants you to see it: every conversation in every kitchen, etc., secretly being listened in on and laughed at by guys in sweaty, rumpled shirts and ties. The evil government law enforcement chief, Creedy, runs a meticulously ubiquitous surveillance program nationwide. Overall, the most outrageous thing about "V" is the ending. Instead of vanquishing terror, all of Britain sides with the terrorist hero of this movie. They celebrate his murder of all the top officials in government, his blowing up of the Houses of Parliament and other government buildings. Terrorists and terrorism are the heroes, the government fighting them and trying to keep us safe are the enemy. This is the glorious revolution? Osama Bin Laden must be very proud."

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actually I always know what I am talking about, else I keep my mouth shut.

So let's see, we have a Priest who rapes women, who also used to be a military officer. The evil fascist government is run by white right-wingers. The citizenry are kept under control like an Orwellian society from 1984 and are thrilled when the terrorists annihilate the government.

Yea, because that happens SO OFTEN in the last twenty years.

Oh, I forgot! As long as it bashes right wingers, the military, the Church and doesn't antagonize Jihadist Islamic fascists we are good to go in Hollywood :rolleyes:

This post is so incredibly, relentlessly imbeciilic and jingoistic that, after reading it, I had to rewatch "Fahrenheit 911" in an effort to restore my faith in the American military.

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The movie is about a nation that is NOT free - why are people so quick to equate the US to that? I find it a bit disturbing that people are opposing this movie because they think the fascist government depicted in the story mirrors our own. Good lord people think of what you are saying!!!

If anything the wicked government in this movie looks like a Nazi movement. The Nazi's early on were close to the Catholic church and used any means to secure power. They were big on spying on their own people and hauling off whatever groups they disliked to be tortured and killed.

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Under the religious Christian Chancellor, "unjust" Gitmo-style military tribunals and absurd NSA-style wiretapping is going on at every corner. Throughout the movie, we are shown vans of law enforcement personnel listening in to every home. As if that's what NSA wiretapping was about.

Correct me if I'm wrong - but didn't the wire tap story break recently? This movie is being released now so doesn't that means it was in production years ago.

How could they be making a point on something that had not yet happened the movie was being filmed?

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