kingdaddy Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Pat Kerwin from Sirius Radio just went over all of the QBs in the draft and concluded that Ramsey is the equivalent of a 2nd round pick. He added that the Skins should put a condition on the pick that if Ramsey has a 3000 yd. year, we should get an additional pick as well. He was using the Jets as the example of a possible trading partner. They mentioned that Ramsey has thrown over 30 td's in the NFL and that NFL experience is valuable in trade considerations. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I'm down for that....I'd take a 3rd from the Jets since they are so early on...but a fifth is laughable.....laughable i say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Wow, Id be so happy if we could get a 2nd out of him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I still think that the reason we seem to want to trade him to the Jets is because we want Abraham but if not, I agree, if AJ Feely can command a 2nd then we damn well should get at least that for Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I think that the Redskins should try to hold on to Ramsey for the moment. The closer it gets to the draft, the more intrigued teams will become with shoring up the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 A 2nd Round pick for a guy who was the last pick of the first round and was never able to establish himself as a starter in the NFL? He's dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 The Jets 3rd rounder would be nice, their 2nd rounder would flat out change the makeup of our team. We could get an incredible player at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Give me a 3rd and I'll be happy since the majority are saying 4th or 5th. Anything lower than a 3rd is robbery IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I said this all along. It is crazy to think it's fair to exchange a veteran NFL QB (with a certain amount of success and unrealized potential) for a pick so low that the guy is likely to not even make your roster !!! I would go no lower than a #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Give me a 3rd and I'll be happy since the majority are saying 4th or 5th. Anything lower than a 3rd is robbery IMO. I for one don't care what people are saying. What exactly are they basing this off of? Are they trying to tell us that AJ Feely had more upside than Patrick Ramsey???? Please !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I think a 3rd is more realistic. Dante Culpepper has added himself to the market. Along with Brees and Kitna it's getting crowded. MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I'm going to make a prediction, but I'm making it hesitantly. I don't think he's going to be traded. I think Ramsey is seeing right now that he's not going to have a situation anywhere else that gives him a clear path to starting, and I think the team is seeing that they're not going to get much for him in return. What's more, the team has got to realize that the QB position is far from secure right now, and the last thing we need to do is weaken it for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 All depends on what the market says. If the Jets are the only team seriously interested, we'll have to decide if a 4 or 5 is enough. If another team or two get involved though, we sit there with a poker face and let them bid him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswin Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 The Jets 3rd rounder would be nice, their 2nd rounder would flat out change the makeup of our team. We could get an incredible player at that spot. I agree. I don't think we have a chance in Hell to get a 2nd rounder. But a 3rd round pick would be great! But...alas..I think in reality we will only get a 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 I guess it depends on how he works out for them and how desperate they are. Ramsey is still a prospect in my opinion. He has shown more positives than negatives, and, his negatives are coachable (or correctable). I wouldn't trade him for less than a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I think a 3rd is more realistic. Dante Culpepper has added himself to the market. Along with Brees and Kitna it's getting crowded.MC He can't add himself. Ziggy has to comply and i doubt he is gonna rest his franchise's fate on Brad Johnson unless he gets something HUGE out of dealing #11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz13 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I agree that there should be a conditional pick in 07'. If they want to offer a 4th this year w/ a conditional pick next year I'd be fine w/ that. I would say if he starts more than 8 games next year we should get a 3rd in 07'. If the team goes to the playoffs w/ Ramsey starting more than 8 games than a 2nd in 07'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin-one Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 All depends on what the market says. If the Jets are the only team seriously interested, we'll have to decide if a 4 or 5 is enough. If another team or two get involved though, we sit there with a poker face and let them bid him up. I totally agree. Let interest build. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I agree with a little of everything here. I say trade him for the 4th or 5th is that's all we can get, then add a stipulation to his contract that says if he, for example, throws for 3,000+ yards that season, we got a 2nd round pick for the next season(or 3rd if we must settle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I agree. I don't think we have a chance in Hell to get a 2nd rounder. But a 3rd round pick would be great! But...alas..I think in reality we will only get a 5th round pick. If someone offers a 5th for him I would walk away from the table and indicate that I am very offended.....and will likely not look to do business with that organization in the future... We don't HAVE to deal him. We should try to make him happy -- he's earned it -- but I certainly would not GIVE him away for a draft pick that probably wont make the roster ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 Kerwin and Randy Cross compared Ramsey to all of the QB's who are projected to go in the 1st round this year. Believe it or not, Kerwin actually said that if Gibbs wanted to, he could shop Patrick for a future 1st round pick, not in this years draft. But, he said, since Gibbs is a short-timer, he should take the 2nd this year with a possible conditional pick next year if Ramsey does well this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Kerwin and Randy Cross compared Ramsey to all of the QB's who are projected to go in the 1st round this year. Believe it or not, Kerwin actually said that if Gibbs wanted to, he could shop Patrick for a future 1st round pick, not in this years draft. But, he said, since Gibbs is a short-timer, he should take the 2nd this year with a possible conditional pick next year if Ramsey does well this season. That sounds like a realistic deal -- I would pull the trigger on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celts32 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I for one don't care what people are saying. What exactly are they basing this off of? Are they trying to tell us that AJ Feely had more upside than Patrick Ramsey???? Please !! You can't use one horrible trade by Miami as basis to conclude that Rasmey is worth a #2 pick. That was one of the dumbess trades in history. Every half way decent player in the league must be worth a #1 pick if you use the AJ Feeley trade as your basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Maybe somebody else can explain to me...why would we want to throw him away for nothing? How does that make the team better? Do we have a young, healthy, proven QB firmly entrenched in the starting role? No. We have a bunch of question marks. Based on his comments at the combine, I don't think Gibbs is in any hurry to get rid of him. I think he's obliging Ramsey's request to "see what's out there", and I think it's turning out that "what's out there" ain't much at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 All depends on what the market says. If the Jets are the only team seriously interested, we'll have to decide if a 4 or 5 is enough. If another team or two get involved though, we sit there with a poker face and let them bid him up. Why do I envision a guy with a gavel going "We got a fo fo fo forth round pick, do I hear a three three three, now we gotta two due due, going once, twice. Sold for a second round pick to team 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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