Art Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Anyone noticing how nicely the media is positioning itself to make Dan Snyder the bad guy, leaving no opportunity for a positive outcome? If there's a CBA extension reached, Snyder will be mocked for being forced to sacrifice his personal beliefs to salvage this season. If one isn't reached, he'll be taunted for not having the good of the league in his thoughts, just wanting to spend money on players with no fetters. Despite reports that suggest the real hold up is smaller market teams don't want to be held to the same rules as bigger market teams with regard to how they spend the shared revenue because they don't make as much of their own and therefore don't want to pay a higher percentage of the revenue they do make, it'll be Snyder who is the root of all evil in any outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Momma says "Snyder is da Devil" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Anyone noticing how nicely the media is positioning itself to make Dan Snyder the bad guy, leaving no opportunity for a positive outcome? If there's a CBA extension reached, Snyder will be mocked for being forced to sacrifice his personal beliefs to salvage this season. If one isn't reached, he'll be taunted for not having the good of the league in his thoughts, just wanting to spend money on players with no fetters.Despite reports that suggest the real hold up is smaller market teams don't want to be held to the same rules as bigger market teams with regard to how they spend the shared revenue because they don't make as much of their own and therefore don't want to pay a higher percentage of the revenue they do make, it'll be Snyder who is the root of all evil in any outcome. The media picking on The Dan? you and your Media conspiracies :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Even they guy doing the show today for that waste of oxygen Colin Cowherd said the same thing about the small-market teams being the obstructionists, Art. If Cowherd were on, the story would be a complete 180, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Great point; however, did you expect anything different from the press? I didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoGood28 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Anyone noticing how nicely the media is positioning itself to make Dan Snyder the bad guy, leaving no opportunity for a positive outcome? If there's a CBA extension reached, Snyder will be mocked for being forced to sacrifice his personal beliefs to salvage this season. If one isn't reached, he'll be taunted for not having the good of the league in his thoughts, just wanting to spend money on players with no fetters.Despite reports that suggest the real hold up is smaller market teams don't want to be held to the same rules as bigger market teams with regard to how they spend the shared revenue because they don't make as much of their own and therefore don't want to pay a higher percentage of the revenue they do make, it'll be Snyder who is the root of all evil in any outcome. Snyder is the only person here willing to save the league a lot of trouble and the media still spins it to make him the scapegoat. Jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Anyone noticing how nicely the media is positioning itself to make Dan Snyder the bad guy, leaving no opportunity for a positive outcome? If there's a CBA extension reached, Snyder will be mocked for being forced to sacrifice his personal beliefs to salvage this season. If one isn't reached, he'll be taunted for not having the good of the league in his thoughts, just wanting to spend money on players with no fetters.Despite reports that suggest the real hold up is smaller market teams don't want to be held to the same rules as bigger market teams with regard to how they spend the shared revenue because they don't make as much of their own and therefore don't want to pay a higher percentage of the revenue they do make, it'll be Snyder who is the root of all evil in any outcome. On this one I agree with you. If a CBA gets done due to Snyder making generous donations/concessions on revenue sharing...he won't be written about positively for possibly saving the NFL from disaster, but the media will harp on the negative. I'd be shocked if any other spin would be put on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Yes and it is incredibly annoying. Owners like Dan Snyder are great for the sport. They not only make money for themselves, but for the league and more importantly the players. The media wants to do everything possible to crucifiy him for no just cause other than personal bias. You have Gene Upshaw coming out and saying that it's not Dan who he is worried about because he actually spends money on players, yet the media continues to do everything to spin it like Dan is the one holding up progress or to revel in the fact that we are facing a cap crunch. I'm not quite sure how some of these reporters can wake up in the mornings, look themselves in the mirror and say that they are doing a good job and reporting the facts as they are without bias without cringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Bogeyman? Like Humpfrey Bogart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanxxvi Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 the small market teams argument is crap. Look at Hugh Culverhouse with the old bucs; he didn't spend crap and didn't win but still made a profit. If he had spent some dough like the glazers, they would've made more money like they do now. The Packers play in the smallest NFL city, yet they make plenty of money. It comes down to the fact that some owners are tight wad jackasses like Hugh Culverhouse, and some CARE about the team and the profit like our owner Dan Snyder. Even the Cardinals make a pretty good profit, if they don't want to spend enough to compete - screw them. This is capitalism, I don't have to buy a house for some homeless guy just because i bought a house. It may sound ugly and selfish, but it's true. If we ran our country the way these cheap "small market" owners want, we'd be like the Chinese - communists. And is their really such a thing as a small market in the NFL anymore with the fair weather fans and the internet and NFL Sunday ticket and fantasy football? This all a bunch of BS made up by owners who don't have enough love for their fans to spend enough to put a winner on the field. I'm sick of losing our players right in the prime of their career to go play for a "small market" team like we are minor league baseball affiliate of that team. We make all of the Culverhouses of the NFL rich. And for the living Culverhouses in the NFL, I hope you all burn in the same place as good old hughie C. There are the Wellington Maras and th Jack Kent Cookes and the Rooneys who helped MAKE this league. Then you have the parasites who feed off of it. "My only regret is that I can't dig him up and kill him myself" Hugh Culverhouse's widow after the funeral upon learning that he left $2,000,000 to a 22 year old mistress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Look, if the face of the battle becomes small-market, old, humble Dan Rooney fighting for the tradition of the league versus Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones....The Danny is going to lose the PR battle badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Yup, it was expected. It started out as the "Gang of Nine", now it's whittled down to just "Snyder's fault". What I find humourous is that he is completely in control, and most definately has various "plan-B's" prepared. If low market teams can't handle it now, then they will likely be crushed in the very near future by the top 10 markets (if no CBA). Edit*Adding this - Ya know, what it looks like is the low market teams asking "hey can we have some of your revenue now so you don't crush us in the future?" Is that how it looks to anyone else? I mean assuming it would be a free for all and no draft and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The media picking on The Dan?you and your Media conspiracies Had to fix your smilie. Its obvious the media hates Danny and the redskins its not hidden just as we see with another high profile guy in DC. Heck Mike and Mike this morning used only two guys when describing an uncapped year as a season where teams would Steinbrenner their way to a championsip Danny's name was used more than Jerrah Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 It's been said "you are also known by the company you keep." I always thought that one had a lot of merit. One I sort of customized, stealing from that piece of wisdom is: "you can tell a lot about someone from who their enemies are." Dan's adversaries usually reinforce my thought that he's a pretty damn ok supersmart guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The proof will be in the pudding If no CBA is reached and the cutting begins... we will see how many low end teams with salary cap money will spend to the limit, with the glut of talent available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanxxvi Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 It's been said "you are also known by the company you keep." I always thought that one had a lot of merit.One I sort of customized, stealing from that piece of wisdom is: "you can tell a lot about someone from who their enemies are." Dan's adversaries usually reinforce my thought that he's a pretty damn ok supersmart guy I think it was confucius who said, "he who smelt it, dealt it." this also proves to me it's the other owners who have "dealt it" to all of the fans - not Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The proof will be in the puddingIf no CBA is reached and the cutting begins... we will see how many low end teams with salary cap money will spend to the limit, with the glut of talent available. Bingo, you win the prize. They won't, because they're cheap and they'll be proving to Dan and Upshaw just why it was they didn't want to do the CBA with total revenue sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 the small market teams argument is crap. Look at Hugh Culverhouse with the old bucs; he didn't spend crap and didn't win but still made a profit. If he had spent some dough like the glazers, they would've made more money like they do now. The Packers play in the smallest NFL city, yet they make plenty of money. It comes down to the fact that some owners are tight wad jackasses like Hugh Culverhouse, and some CARE about the team and the profit like our owner Dan Snyder. Even the Cardinals make a pretty good profit, if they don't want to spend enough to compete - screw them. This is capitalism, I don't have to buy a house for some homeless guy just because i bought a house. It may sound ugly and selfish, but it's true. If we ran our country the way these cheap "small market" owners want, we'd be like the Chinese - communists. And is their really such a thing as a small market in the NFL anymore with the fair weather fans and the internet and NFL Sunday ticket and fantasy football? This all a bunch of BS made up by owners who don't have enough love for their fans to spend enough to put a winner on the field. I'm sick of losing our players right in the prime of their career to go play for a "small market" team like we are minor league baseball affiliate of that team. We make all of the Culverhouses of the NFL rich. And for the living Culverhouses in the NFL, I hope you all burn in the same place as good old hughie C. There are the Wellington Maras and th Jack Kent Cookes and the Rooneys who helped MAKE this league. Then you have the parasites who feed off of it. "My only regret is that I can't dig him up and kill him myself" Hugh Culverhouse's widow after the funeral upon learning that he left $2,000,000 to a 22 year old mistress I think your minor league baseball analogy is a little off. The Redskins are the team buying up players from other teams. Which is fine. But don't make the Skins out to be a farm system for small market teams. That's not true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItaliaMuscle Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 i don't think it's the media vs dan. its the media vs. the Redskins. no one seems to like us. which i prefer... cause we are the Bad News Bears of this League... kicking ass makes it soooo much more enjoyable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanxxvi Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I think your minor league baseball analogy is a little off. The Redskins are the team buying up players from other teams. Which is fine. But don't make the Skins out to be a farm system for small market teams. That's not true at all. Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce...yup, we didn't develop those guys at all for other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Where have you been? Before Bush bashing, Danny Bashing was all the rage in the media How can you forget the Danny Warbucks or "The Danny" slams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySkin Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 They're are haters, that's all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce...yup, we didn't develop those guys at all for other teams... Davis- Extremely injury prone hardly ever plays a whole year. Smoot- demoted to 3rd corner by vikings after huge signing bonus Bailey- Good player. Not worth what Denver paid. Pierce- Good player, Time will tell if he was worth what the giants paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce...yup, we didn't develop those guys at all for other teams... Marcus Washington - Colts Shawn Springs - Seattle Randy Thomas - Jets Phillip Daniels - Bears Renaldo Wynn - Jags Casey Rabach - Ravens Cornelis Griffin - Giants Joe Salave'a - Titans Brandon Noble - Cowboys Matt Bowan - Packers Santana Moss - Jets Clinton Portis - Broncos Why not show a little gratitude to the rest of the league. The Skins have taken more in then they've put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanxxvi Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Davis- Extremely injury prone hardly ever plays a whole year.Smoot- demoted to 3rd corner by vikings after huge signing bonus Bailey- Good player. Not worth what Denver paid. Pierce- Good player, Time will tell if he was worth what the giants paid. My point is either have revenue sharing or a salary cap - not both. Could we still use stephen davis in some capacity, yes. Same with smoot and bailey and pierce. If we have those guys plus our current guys, don't you think we would be better. I want a level playing field, but i don't think we should get screwed both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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