s0crates Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Redskins.com TV's draft coverage shows Joe Bugel interviewing USC G Duece Latui. This seems to suggest that the Redskins are at least considering using our first pick on a linemen, which is just what I think we should do. As many of you already know, I advocate acquiring an offensive linemen as our #1 offseason priority. Im glad to see the coaching staff may be showing interest in a second round offensive linemen like Latui. Watching Buges get ready to interview Latui has quelled my fears that we would draft a DE or WR with our first pick. Its as if Gibbs and Buges read my mind. We need help on the offensive line first and foremost. Of course, its not that this proves we are going to use our first pick on a G. But I won't be a bit surprised if that is just what we do come draft day. 3. Deuce Latui is another guy that looked good, with Rob Sims dominate performance at the Hula Bowl and these three guys, it might be a great year for guards. But back to Latui, he is a giant at 6-3 338 and can move pretty good, he is strong against the bull rush, he just has to learn not to lean in with his head so much because it makes him off balance. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/seniorbowlnotes.htmDeuce Latui is just what we need: somebody who would be a great backup for a year or two and eventually push Dock for a starting job. First, the obvious: he protected Matt Leinart and pulled for Reggie Bush. Second, at 6-3 338, he is pretty big. Third, he moves well enough to do what the Redskins ask of their gaurds. That leaves two questions: Will he still be available when we pick? If so, should we take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaSkin Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I'd like to see us pick up an interior lineman with our 2nd or 3rd rounder. We need depth and you can get quality at that position in those spots. I haven't payed enough attention to who's available though to know if Latui is the right guy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Redskins.com TV's draft coverage shows Joe Bugel interviewing USC G Duece Latui. This seems to suggest that the Redskins are at least considering using our first pick on a linemen, which is just what I think we should do. Watching Buges get ready to interview Latui has quelled my fears that we would draft a DE or WR with our first pick. Its as if Gibbs and Buges read my mind. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/seniorbowlnotes.htm It won't happen, because Miss Cleo can read Joe Gibbs mind. :laugh: Because of the large signing bonus you pay a 2nd round draft pick, you expect a 2nd round pick to be able to move into the starting lineup in say 1 year or so. Unless of course you draft a bust like WR Taylor Jacobs. So who would a guard push out of the starting lineup in a year or so. Not Randy Thomas or Derrick Dockery. Thats why Miss Cleo said the Skins would draft either a TE or a CB in the 2nd round. :paranoid: If a CB he would play the nickel until Springs retires in 1 or 2 years and if a TE he would push out Royal. We might draft a G in the 3rd round, but Latui wont be there in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 You can get some of the best guards in the draft in the 2nd round. They normally don't go high. So it would be a high value pick for us if we did do that. That said, just because Bugel's shown talking to Latui doesn't mean a whole lot. I'm sure he talked to a lot of OL players. But I do think we'll draft a guard because we have virtually no depth at that position right now. Whether it's in the 2nd round or not I don't know. A lot depends on this CBA deal and whether or not we're going to have to cut a bunch of players. Because if Harris is cut I think we'll draft another corner in the 2nd round...we'll need a 3rd corner at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I would be pleased to pick him up and start him his second year for Dock. But just cuz the redskins interviewed him doesnt mean there going to pick a Olineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The only way I see this happening is if they don't plan tendering Dockery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 So who would a guard push out of the starting lineup in a year or so. Not Randy Thomas or Derrick Dockery. You don't think Derrick Dockery's spot could use a little competition? Also remember that Randy Thomas is coming off a serious injury. Furthermore, we don't have any quality backup linemen now that Ray Brown is gone. It is good to have at least one potential starter in reserve on the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 First question first. What side did he play on in college? I don't see him pushing Dockery out of a spot. I think what is more likely to happen is in a year or 2 he would take over for Randy Thomas, who is heavily compensated and 30 yrs old. He might give Dockery a push, but the coaching staff, Buges especially, seems to be very high on Dockery. Imagine having 345 lbs Dockery and 338 lbs Latui blocking at the guard spots. This would certainly make the power rushing game that Gibbs favors an easy task. I do agree that our biggest hole is on the O-line. While we do need another WR, a pass rushing DE, and depth at CB, we do have servicable options at all of those positions. If anything were to happen to our O-line we would be S.O.L. Lets not forget that our number 1 O-line backup last year already has an AARP card. And lets certainly not forget Cory Raymer's "outstanding" performance when the old man went down. O-line is an issue that must be addressed both long term when Randy is either too old to play or demands too much $, and short term if someone were to get injured. Also lets not forget what happened to Brunell when the O-line allowed his knee to get bent backward. We must be able to protect the QB for this O to function. We do not NEED another WR for the O to function. We do not NEED another DE or CB for the D to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I would be happy drafting him. The handful of games I seen him play the last two years, he was a very impressive guard. This move maybe a protection pick if Dock bolts via FA. I wouldn't mind seeing the Skins looking at Max Jean-Giles the big G/T out of Georgia. Not too mention with no CBA a guard would be one of the easier picks to sign, regardless of round. :dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 So who would a guard push out of the starting lineup in a year or so. Not Randy Thomas or Derrick Dockery. Thats why Miss Cleo said the Skins would draft either a TE or a CB in the 2nd round. :paranoid: If a CB he would play the nickel until Springs retires in 1 or 2 years and if a TE he would push out Royal. Wait a minute. You almost had me. But why would we need to draft a 30 year old corner's replacement but not a 30 year old gaurd's? I think Ray Brown has muddled Ms. Cleo's thinking about offensive line longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 First question first.What side did he play on in college? RG, but guard is a whole lot easier to flip flop between then the tackle spots. :dallasuck :gaintsuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknsrbck26 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 He looks really good and I would to see him in a skin uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Here we go. This has happened every April for almost 15 years. We continually find a reason to ignore a pass rushing DE in the draft. And so the cycle continues................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazhog Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 There's only one person more excited about this mentioned prospect than I... Clinton Portis!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Landry Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 If we draft him in the 2nd round, he won't "push for the starting job." He will be the starter. I don't know how you can't comprehend this, but we aren't using a 2nd round draft pick to draft a ****ing BACK-UP. I don't understand why you are literally obsessed with using such a high draft pick on a BACK-UP... :doh: :jerk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansenbj Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The skins should wait til like the 4th round and draft Matua out of USC, i think that would be a steal and it would improve our o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 If we draft him in the 2nd round, he won't "push for the starting job."He will be the starter. I don't know how you can't comprehend this, but we aren't using a 2nd round draft pick to draft a ****ing BACK-UP. I don't understand why you are literally obsessed with using such a high draft pick on a BACK-UP... :doh: First of all, not every rookie needs to start right away. Jason Campbell is not starting yet and he was a first round pick. Second of all, there is a good chance that we could end up needing a new starter at gaurd. Think about it: Randy Thomas is coming off a very serious injury, Dockery is headed into a contract year, and we have no quality backups on the offensive line. What better time is there to draft a quality gaurd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunPortisRun Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 If we can get an OL like Kansas City we will be good to go on Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 :doh: First of all, not every rookie needs to start right away. Jason Campbell is not starting yet and he was a first round pick. Second of all, there is a good chance that we could end up needing a new starter at gaurd. Think about it: Randy Thomas is coming off a very serious injury, Dockery is headed into a contract year, and we have no quality backups on the offensive line. What better time is there to draft a quality gaurd? Very good point, but if someone comes along at our pick at a position like DE, WR, TE, etc... we gotta take him. But I wouldn't mind drafting an offensive linemen as our 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunPortisRun Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/ryan_ocallaghan.html Ryan O'Callaghan OL 6'6 344 California By: Robert Davis Ryan O'Callaghan has really come on the last two years. Even though he played early on in his career, he truly began to shine as a junior in 2004, and continued his standout play as a senior. Once O'Callaghan locks on to you, it's all over. With his massive frame and strength, he has the ability to dominate at the point of attack. He is a mauler in every sense of the word. He combines his size advantage with excellent toughness, and he just continues to fight and claw even if he does not lock on off the snap. He will also bring some versatility to his NFL team, as he has a ton of experience at tackle, but projects more to guard at the next level. All of his experience is at tackle, but he may lack the agility and athleticism to play outside on a consistent basis at the NFL level. He may have to learn to play inside at guard. His height is nice on the outside, but it means he is going to have to work extra hard at keeping his pads low against shorter tackles in the NFL. O'Callaghan is a very good offensive line prospect. With his ability to dominate in the running game, he is going to make a fine right guard or right tackle at the next level. He lacks the ideal athleticism for the league, but his ability as a run blocker will find him a home on someone's roster. He should hear his name called at some point near the end of Day One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Why do so many people feel that a 2nd rounder must step in immediately? Seriously, we don't even have an early 2nd rounder. Our team did make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and where did we falter? We faltered at depth at guard. How hard is it to comprehend that O-line depth is our most glaring weakness? Had we had a healthy O-line in the playoffs or someone slightly more servicable than old man Brown our O would not likely have sputtered the way it did. A 2nd rounder doesn't HAVE to start, they HAVE to be able to start when needed. Drafting a guy in the 4th round as suggested earlier on this thread (by the way don't we not have our 4th this year?) won't give us a player that can come in and contribute at the level we will need if an injury comes along. Passing up a DE, well it is hard to do. I personally believe that we have sufficient talent developing that this isn't a pressing need. Next year I expect Demetric Evans to emerge as our starter and do a heck of a job there. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Nik Clemons turn into a very good player. As it stands the only position where we don't have any servicable players is dpth on the O-line. O-LINE DEPTH IS OUR MOST PRESSING NEED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Deuce Latui will be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd round. The guy is massive and one of the best guards in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 . I also wouldn't be surprised to see Nik Clemons turn into a very good player.As it stands the only position where we don't have any servicable players is dpth on the O-line. O-LINE DEPTH IS OUR MOST PRESSING NEED! What did you see from Nik to come to this conclusion? My only memory of Nik this year was him getting caught out of position against SF and giving up their big touchdown run. I'm not rooting for our team to draft a guard with a high pick but that might be what's best for the team. The past two years we've had serious injuries to offensive lineman and no longer have the versatile backup we had to fill in. If we suffer another injury to our line it's not going to matter who our recievers are, or who is behind center because they're going to be laying on their back. If we don't use our second on a guard we should be using our third. I think the guy we drafted two years ago might be able to play tackle (Is it Jim Molinaro or Mark Wilson). Honestly it wouldn't hurt if we drafted 2 lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 If we can get an OL like Kansas City we will be good to go on Offense. :doh: thanks Captain Obvious, didn't think of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolmConnection Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 If we draft him in the 2nd round, he won't "push for the starting job."He will be the starter. I don't know how you can't comprehend this, but we aren't using a 2nd round draft pick to draft a ****ing BACK-UP. I don't understand why you are literally obsessed with using such a high draft pick on a BACK-UP... :doh: :jerk: Yeah, screw that Jason Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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