KirkNC Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Patrick Ramsey to the Arizona Cardinals for Bryant Johnson. Here are a short list of his vital's Age: 25 Height: 6' 2" Weight: 214 lbs. In League: 4 Yrs Depth Postion: Backup College: Penn State Contract Expires: 2006 Contract Details Johnson signed a four-year deal in July 2003, according to the Arizona Republic. Financial terms were not disclosed. Why this makes so much sense: Ramsey and Johnson are both former first round picks that no longer have prominant places on their prospective team. Both are in the final year of thier rookie contract thus both are cost fiendly and cost about the same. Both teams have a need that the other player would fill nicely for them. True win win deal that allows both players and teams to get a friendly one year audition. Why this is a good deal for the Skins: Bryant Johnson is a good player. He has the misfortune of being on the same team as two of the very best recievers in the league and has not been able to get past Boldin and Fitzgerald. He has also been hampered by a string of inguries that while collectively worrisome, non have been serious. This is what to a large extent pushed him to # 3 in AZ in the first place. Bryant is from MD, this would be a homecoming for him. He has the size and strengh we are so wanting at WR and has the abilities to be an excellent NFL player, at 25 he should be hitting his stride. Ramsey would be a welome addition to AZ as they need something behind Warner and they have said Josh aint it. Win win, that would prove to be a great investment for the Skins as Johnson will prove to be a very solid WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryceb07 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Sounds good to me, at this point anything is better then getting a 6th rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatant Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 He has also been hampered by a string of inguries that while collectively worrisome, non have been serious. Nice size, but why would we send a healthy quarterback for a string of injuries wideout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Green is pretty hihgh on John Navarre. I doubt they'll trade for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatant Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Sounds good to me, at this point anything is better then getting a 6th rounder for him. That's a good point, but I hope that the Skins would keep him rather than take a 6th rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I have also heard that the Cardinals are interested in going after Randle-El, even with the corp of receivers that they already have. This would knock Johnson even further down the chain. With all the talk about the Skins and Bears with Randle-El, the Cardinals are interested and have a ton of cap room. I like Johnson, and I have thought this would be a good deal for a while. But if they sign Randle-El, I am wondering if Johnson just simply gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 nah, I'm still holding out for Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldpacker Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 nah, I'm still holding out for Abraham I don't know why but i don't see that happening. Only b/c he probably will want a hefty contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I like this trade Johnson and Moss I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaK9Trainer Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I think the Ramsey for Abraham trade is a done deal just awaiting the new CBA deal to get done. Lots of rumors about it as a possibility and I really think that Dan Snyder KNOWS that we are close to the promised land and we only need a few "studs" to push us over the top. I think this deal gets done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNFN_48 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Uhh didn't they just sign Kurt Warner to an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple569 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Ramsey for Johnson would be a good deal for both teams, but I still think Ramsey is headed to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I think the Ramsey for Abraham trade is a done deal just awaiting the new CBA deal to get done. Lots of rumors about it as a possibility and I really think that Dan Snyder KNOWS that we are close to the promised land and we only need a few "studs" to push us over the top. I think this deal gets done! Absolutely no chance it is a straight up trade. The Jets know Ramsey's percieved value around the league is a 4-6th round pick. Why would the Jets do a straight up with us when they could just offer us a fourth round pick and we would take it? We would have to give our 2nd rounder as well and I don't want any part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaK9Trainer Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Absolutely no chance it is a straight up trade. The Jets know Ramsey's percieved value around the league is a 4-6th round pick. Why would the Jets do a straight up with us when they could just offer us a fourth round pick and we would take it? We would have to give our 2nd rounder as well and I don't want any part of that. Sorry about that. I didnt meant to imply that it's a straight up trade. I think theres more involved than the rumors that are flying around. BUT, I DO think that the Jets get Ramsey and we get Abraham. Who or what else is involved is anyones guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Patrick Ramsey to the Arizona Cardinals for Bryant Johnson. Here are a short list of his vital's Age: 25 Height: 6' 2" Weight: 214 lbs. In League: 4 Yrs Depth Postion: Backup College: Penn State Contract Expires: 2006 Contract Details Johnson signed a four-year deal in July 2003, according to the Arizona Republic. Financial terms were not disclosed. Why this makes so much sense: Ramsey and Johnson are both former first round picks that no longer have prominant places on their prospective team. Both are in the final year of thier rookie contract thus both are cost fiendly and cost about the same. Both teams have a need that the other player would fill nicely for them. True win win deal that allows both players and teams to get a friendly one year audition. Why this is a good deal for the Skins: Bryant Johnson is a good player. He has the misfortune of being on the same team as two of the very best recievers in the league and has not been able to get past Boldin and Fitzgerald. He has also been hampered by a string of inguries that while collectively worrisome, non have been serious. This is what to a large extent pushed him to # 3 in AZ in the first place. Bryant is from MD, this would be a homecoming for him. He has the size and strengh we are so wanting at WR and has the abilities to be an excellent NFL player, at 25 he should be hitting his stride. Ramsey would be a welome addition to AZ as they need something behind Warner and they have said Josh aint it. Win win, that would prove to be a great investment for the Skins as Johnson will prove to be a very solid WR. I have discussed Johnson on here before, he is big, fast and sure handed...and he gets better every year I believe he caught around 40 balls last year behind Boldin and Fitz. I would be very happy to she Johnson here especially with his small contract. Won't happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Id be happy with this. Johnson has been buried on the depth chart in Arizona, but I still think he can be a very good #2 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=4475 Looks like he just needs some more reps to be the prototype #2. He is definately a better recieving option than Randle El. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Thats a good trade and would work out good for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse1 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Absolutely no chance it is a straight up trade. The Jets know Ramsey's percieved value around the league is a 4-6th round pick. Why would the Jets do a straight up with us when they could just offer us a fourth round pick and we would take it? We would have to give our 2nd rounder as well and I don't want any part of that. I think Gibbs has been pretty clear that a 4-6 round trade for Ramsey is unacceptable, a throw-a-away he won't listen to. When he says that the deal has to be right, I don't think he means a deal for a 6 rounder. That's nuts. A 6th rounder is worth, approximately, nothing-- sort of equivalent to a Hail Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 NOPE. Forget it, it won't happen. Their are a couple of teams with desperate quarterback needs, and he will end up with one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyf316 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Good research. Thanks for putting this guy into fair perspective. I am not sure that he's the answer, but he definately seems worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Johnson has uber potential, but I don't know how interested Arizona will be considering the dal that they just gave Warner. Also it seems that they like to keep a stable of WRs. I wonder if we might be able to pry somebody out of Detroits stable for Ramsey. They have to be sick of Joey harrington up there by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Season Please! Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Good in theory, but no dice. They just signed Warner to an extension and Ramsey doesn't want to be a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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