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Mr. Sinister

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1 hour ago, Llevron said:

The stroke is really what started this. Not mine, my nephews GF. Everyone knew she was putting too much stress on herself, then her body broke down and it scares the **** outta me. 

 

 

This is how my aunt died about a month earlier this time last year (heart failure due to overwork, and family drama). Single mom, and a devastatingly caring woman that put so much time and effort into other people and their problems (and never accepting it back) that it literally killed her. Still think about it every day.

 

**** is real, man.

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The Evil Genius

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Anyone have those dreams/nightmares that stick with you for days/weeks because they seemed so real?

 

I've been taking pesciption Singulair to treat my asthma for several months now and one of the side effects is vivid dreams. I've had some doozies but the one other day I couldn't get back to sleep around 3am and had problems falling asleep the next day (and can still remember every detail and feel of it).

 

Basically I was at home in bed and all the sudden I was being lifted by a beam of light that took me up through the roof and high into the sky. I felt the pressure of the beam but the weightlessness of 'flying"..then I woke up. 

 

Still sticks with me thinking about how real it felt.

 

??? right?

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Mr. Sinister

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24 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

Anyone have those dreams/nightmares that stick with you for days/weeks because they seemed so real?

 

I've been taking pesciption Singulair to treat my asthma for several months now and one of the side effects is vivid dreams. I've had some doozies but the one other day I couldn't get back to sleep around 3am and had problems falling asleep the next day (and can still remember every detail and feel of it).

 

Basically I was at home in bed and all the sudden I was being lifted by a beam of light that took me up through the roof and high into the sky. I felt the pressure of the beam but the weightlessness of 'flying"..then I woke up. 

 

Still sticks with me thinking about how real it felt.

 

??? right?

 

I've had them a lot (in the past, as frequently as 2-3 times a week). Not as much anymore though.

 

So real that I felt physical pain/sensation corresponding to the action upon waking up.

 

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Chew

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13 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Can't enjoy that money if you always working or dead. 

 

Edit: I never went backward in pay in IT, stick around until leaving makes sense (getting too good at it), but lesson I learned from working two full time jobs was the money was never worth the time you didn't have to use it.  Got a lot done, but I would've tried like hell at a different route if it wasn't while recession was in full swing.


But see...after moving up in pay, it sounds like you moved on eventually, which is the way to do it (in my opinion).  That's what I would suggest to anyone facing that decision of taking less money for less stress or a better paying job for more stress.  Take the cake.  Nut up and deal with the stress and long hours for a year or two, always keeping your eyes on the prize for the future. 

I would never suggest that people slave for decades like some people might've be thinking.  Wtf, obviously not.  But if given the option, work your ass off and deal with the stressful gig if possible so you're making long-dick money much earlier in your career.  Then you can just coast to retirement in a cushy, well paying, low-stress job, making a lot more money than you would be if you took the lower-paying job 25 years ago because you were worried about your "feelings" and "happiness."  :P;):D

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In regards to salary versus stress, just bear the following in mind:

 

The average person changes employers 6 times during his career. Few jobs last a lifetime. Whatever salary you settle for typically becomes the baseline for your next job. Take a significant paycut for a better environment, and you may never catch up financially.

 

I had a girlfriend once who insisted that it's just about getting your foot in the door.  Maybe that's true for a small startup company (which also carries significant risk of failure), but I just don't buy that for bigger companies. People are by nature assholes and will assume if you took a low paying/low level job, that's probably all you are capable of. Higher salary carries with it the belief that you must be worth it.... It's like when you shop for appliances and automatically assume the more expensive ones work better and might be worth the money, whereas the cheapest models are likely to break a month after the warranty expires.

On the other hand, there are some workplaces so toxic the money simply isn't worth it. Send out resumes and save your vacation days to use for interviews. Try and stick with your job until you land something at least comparable in money and title. It's much easier to land the right job without much of a dip in earnings if you have options.

2 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Whoa.

 

Beautiful quilt and inlays. The body reminds me a little of the Brian Moore guitars. Is it a genuine carved top or just a veneer? Who is the maker?

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Llevron

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1 hour ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

This is how my aunt died about a month earlier this time last year (heart failure due to overwork, and family drama). Single mom, and a devastatingly caring woman that put so much time and effort into other people and their problems (and never accepting it back) that it literally killed her. Still think about it every day.

 

**** is real, man.

 

Damn man. I'm sorry to hear about that. I never thought stress would effect me like this until the last 6 months. I'm sure your aunt thought the same. Thing a out being strong like her is it leaves you open for the weaknesses you can't see coming. 

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if you can make ENOUGH.... then the stress trade-off is not worth it.    (If you aren't making enough... then THAT is a HELLUVA lot more stressful, still!) 

 

stress kills everything.   you.  your love for life.   your lovelife.  your relationship with family.   your social life.   your ability to enjoy the little things.   

 

(on the other hand, this is all assuming the STRESS is work.... stress comes from lots of places.   and work, even the best work, is still "work"
, its why you get paid for it.)    ........    so for work purposes, i make the simplifying assumption>>> 

 

work stress == extra hours working/worrying about work.    

 

if work is stealing hours and happy time from the REST of your life (beyond the 40 hours it ALREADY steals), then you have to take some serious introspection and decide if it is at all worth it?   and what are you actually getting FROM the extra effort/stree?  an extra $10k/year? at what cost? 

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1 hour ago, Chew said:


But see...after moving up in pay, it sounds like you moved on eventually, which is the way to do it (in my opinion).  That's what I would suggest to anyone facing that decision of taking less money for less stress or a better paying job for more stress.  Take the cake.  Nut up and deal with the stress and long hours for a year or two, always keeping your eyes on the prize for the future. 

I would never suggest that people slave for decades like some people might've be thinking.  Wtf, obviously not.  But if given the option, work your ass off and deal with the stressful gig if possible so you're making long-dick money much earlier in your career.  Then you can just coast to retirement in a cushy, well paying, low-stress job, making a lot more money than you would be if you took the lower-paying job 25 years ago because you were worried about your "feelings" and "happiness."  :P;):D

 

Nah. I didn't take it as you saying gut it out for close to a decade.  I would say from personal experience, there's a lot to do in IT and like riggo mentioned, we arent expected to stick with employers for long haul anymore.  I'm a contractor right now, I don't plan to stay one, that's how flexible and fluid cybersecurity is in DC right now.

 

I agree that a lot of times when your coming in, people are expecting you did a vertial move, not lateral.  It didn't take long for my group to realize in knew far more then I needed, but that's because only manager saw my resume, everyone else gun checked me.

 

In regards to picking a job based on stress vs pay, it depends on your career path.  Not all career paths are the same, I would tell people in IT Club and younger cats to look at what you want as your dream and what gotta do to get there.  I'm doing what I had to do to get here, I understood what came with the territory, knew it would hurt, paying my dues

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12 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Nah. I didn't take it as you saying gut it out for close to a decade.  I would say from personal experience, there's a lot to do in IT and like riggo mentioned, we arent expected to stick with employers for long haul anymore.  I'm a contractor right now, I don't plan to stay one, that's how flexible and fluid cybersecurity is in DC right now.

 

I agree that a lot of times when your coming in, people are expecting you did a vertial move, not lateral.  It didn't take long for my group to realize in knew far more then I needed, but that's because only manager saw my resume, everyone else gun checked me.

 

In regards to picking a job based on stress vs pay, it depends on your career path.  Not all career paths are the same, I would tell people in IT Club and younger cats to look at what you want as your dream and what gotta do to get there. 


Respeck on that.  B)  I realize that the IT is an entirely different animal, I have no idea how that world works.  I do know that your world is booming though like you said.  I work on the IT service contracts team for a big ass federal agency, and we're handing out contracts for cybersecurity and support like skittles.  And I've seen the rates we're paying out to those positions, before overhead....sweet Mary.  :o  Lunch is on you and riggo.  You guys are basically defrauding the federal government :rofl89:

I've never been a vision board guy (not that that's exactly what you were saying), but I like the idea of picturing what you ultimately want to end up doing, and how to get there.  I've never done that before. 

My wife was in IT for about 10 years, now she's kind of hybrid IT/HR as an HR policy technical writer. 

I'm a contractor too, have been for 10 years now.  I eventually always planned on going back fed, but I'm having second thoughts lately.  With the way the current administration is heading with limiting new fed hires and wanting to shrink gov't, contractors will be in higher demand than they already are.  I work in Procurement/Contracting, and the demand for Contract Specialists and Procurement Analyst contractors is so high that I don't feel that pressure of taking a fed gig for the "job security" like I used to.  I feel very safe moving from one contract to the next every five years, there's a ton of work out there. 

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TradeTheBeal!

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I have thoughts on both pancakes and Justin Bieber!

 

1.  How many pancakes can a real human being eat?  3 maybe 4?  It’s just bread and butter.  If you roll up to a half-price/all you can eat pancake joint with any regularity, YOU WILL DIE YOUNG.  

 

2.  The only thing more pure than Bieber Love is IG Bieber Love.  I couldn’t be happier for him.  Hope he makes a Metal album soon!

 

#onelove

#lovedrive

#manysplendored

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