Fred Jones Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I was watching Fox News today and they were talking about the cost of health care and how it is going to increase tremendously in the next 10 years. How is the country going to fix the cost of health care? How are we going to keep the cost of health care down and why does it cost so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Its going to have to be nationlised to some degree.The drug companies have created this monster and the government who are bought and paid for by them give little more than lip service to change the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Put the fork down......go running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 There is no fixing it. We will have Nationilized Health Care within our lifetime. And it will be the biggest disaster in our NAtions History and ultimately lead to another Depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Redefine "quality" health care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseto Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I hope its fixed during my lifetime b/c its dragging a lot of big companies (like mine, Verizon) have already started cutting pensions. its a trend that will likely continue to other Fortune 50 companies till its industry standard. people really need to start planning their own retirements now, or else the system will really crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Embrace the market (there is nothing free about our healthcare system) Sadly, I am in the minority ( as with most issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Remove the word elderly from in front of the Medicare charter. Raise taxes. Problem solved. Healthcare borders on being a right, and you can't be a nation of morals without being a nation of universal healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 There is no fixing it.We will have Nationilized Health Care within our lifetime. And it will be the biggest disaster in our NAtions History and ultimately lead to another Depression. Just like it did in Canada, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Chaos47 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Embrace the market (there is nothing free about our healthcare system) Sadly, I am in the minority ( as with most issues). I'm with you. Lawyers and drug companies are driving costs up but it's still a helluva lot cheaper than what they pay for their "free" medical care in Europe/Scandinavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 I was also wondering about the impact of: 1. Tort reform. Many small private practices go under because malpractice insurance is so high. 2. Fraud involved with Medicare and Medicaid 3. Doctors charging too much for their care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 We're getting to the point we can't afford to spend every cent we can to keep someone alive as long as we can. If someone gets a big ole tumor in their brain, maybe we shouldn't spend thousands and thousands of dollars keeping them alive for another 6 months. It's cruel but there's a point where we all can't afford to spend like this. When people are spending one or two thousand dollars a month out of their own pockets, they'll start realizing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 We will have no choice but to have a universal system. This is a large part of why companies are outsourcing or hitting serious financial struggles. I heard GM spends more on health care than they do on actual parts for cars. This could be untrue but what I do know is that they are spending nearly $6 billion this year on healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Just like it did in Canada, right? You cant compare the two. I think National Health Care CAN work in some countries, I just dont think it can in ours. I dont think Americans will be willing to accept the realities of the system. -Higher taxes -Longer waits -Lesser service -Pay for physicians I might be wrong. In fact I hope Im wrong. But I AM convinced we will have it in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Put the fork down......go running. The only true way to do it, preventative care Unfourtantley we have a fat and lazy America laced with obesity and diabetes and heart problems which is clogging our health care system and costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Unfourtantley we have a fat and lazy America laced with obesity and diabetes and heart problems which is clogging our health care system and costs Hey watch it! I resemble that remark. :redpunch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 You cant compare the two.I think National Health Care CAN work in some countries, I just dont think it can in ours. I dont think Americans will be willing to accept the realities of the system. -Higher taxes -Longer waits -Lesser service -Pay for physicians I might be wrong. In fact I hope Im wrong. But I AM convinced we will have it in the future. The taxes are really the only problem America will have to worry about. The waits won't really be affected, in fact, I've read things that state waits are actually worse without universal health care. As far as service goes, it's funny, all the industrialized countries that have universal health care are actually rated higher than us overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The only true way to do it, preventative careUnfourtantley we have a fat and lazy America laced with obesity and diabetes and heart problems which is clogging our health care system and costs I have never understood this line of thinking. You really think it costs more for someone to die of lung cancer at age 66 than it does to pay for them to live in a retirement home for 20 years and THEN die of some other form of cancer at age 86? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 They are also servicing a fraction of the people ours will need to service. As a small business owner, part of me hopes it happens. It will save me a small fortune every month. But I have a terrible feeling about the ultimate outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The only true way to do it, preventative careUnfourtantley we have a fat and lazy America laced with obesity and diabetes and heart problems which is clogging our health care system and costs Maybe the insurance companies could stop covering every miracle drug that's out in the market. Just because you are "sad" doesn't mean you have a mental problem and need to pop 6 pills each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 They are also servicing a fraction of the people ours will need to service. Yeah, with a fraction of the doctors we have. Somehow I doubt we have proportionally less doctors than the rest of the world does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Another thing that bothers me is some of the stupid laws. For example, VA is once again debating the motorcycle helmet law. Last year it was two votes shy of getting rid of the law. Well, people that get in accidents that don't have their helmet on spend more time in the ER and cost more money to fix. These people burn through their insurance and then the tax payers pick up the tab. Don't spend my money on your stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I have never understood this line of thinking. You really think it costs more for someone to die of lung cancer at age 66 than it does to pay for them to live in a retirement home for 20 years and THEN die of some other form of cancer at age 86? If you are fit and healthy you won't end up in a retirement home I know several fit and healthy people living normal lives in their 80s, albeit a little slower then we do, because they took care of themselves their entire life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Maybe the insurance companies could stop covering every miracle drug that's out in the market.Just because you are "sad" doesn't mean you have a mental problem and need to pop 6 pills each day. You do know that clinical depression is a real disease, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 drop a bomb* and start over. *figuratively, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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