TankRizzo Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 (KFFL) Jason Cole, of the Miami Herald, reports the Miami Dolphins have a short list of veteran quarterbacks that they might have interest in, including Washington Redskins QB Patrick Ramsey. The team would like to develop a young quarterback, but might need to acquire a veteran if their options are limited. Culpepper and McNair are also other QBs they are interested in. If we can get something decent out of the 'phins I'd love to see this happen, I think he would be a great fit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macnoke03 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I don't care where he ends up, as long as we get something decent in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSkins81 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Dolphins seem to be where former 'Skins QB's go home to roost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppa Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Dolphins seem to be where former 'Skins QB's go home to roost. Yeah ! Totally! Think Sage ,Gus and now it could be Ramsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachhaze Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I don't care where he ends up, as long as we get something decent in return Amen. I second and third that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hell, the Phins gave up a 2nd rounder a couple of years ago for AJ Feeley....wonder if we can get anything in that ballpark for Ramsey? :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This is how I see it going down: Phins resign David Boston to a skins friendly contract (he needs to reestablish himself as a servicable receiver) than they ship him here for Ramsey. That would benefit us and them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I have been rediculed for criticizing Gibbs because he lacked the balls to start Ramsey against the Seabirds (in view of Brunell's clearly apparent deterioration against Phila. and Tampa). Ramsey, even though he will make $ 1.7 mil this year (and that $$ is sorely needed), is a perfect back-up for either Campbell (or Brunell, ugh!). Too bad the collapse of the CBA might make him a casualty. Trading him for a low round choice does not make any sense to me and I would vote to keep him. But if the phins offered reasonable value for Pat you gotta make that deal. What is reasonable value? I would hold out for no less than a 3rd round choice. Someday soon Pat will become a winning QB for another lucky team much like Stan Humphries did way back when. I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodysDad Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This is how I see it going down:Phins resign David Boston to a skins friendly contract (he needs to reestablish himself as a servicable receiver) than they ship him here for Ramsey. That would benefit us and them. Why was there such a dip in Boston's stats the last two years? Injury? If so, anyone know what happened and the likelihood that he can bounce back? He seems to have been really good at some point and at 6'2" would be a good fit for what we need ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This is how I see it going down:Phins resign David Boston to a skins friendly contract (he needs to reestablish himself as a servicable receiver) than they ship him here for Ramsey. That would benefit us and them. David Boston wasting cap space, and eventually getting on IR doesn't benefit us in the slightest. Boston has been found with steroids in his system before, not that it was a big surprise to anybody. His knees don't seem to be able to deal with his added bulk and the side effects of continuous steroid use has probably taken it's toll. He'll never be completely healthy for a full NFL season again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Why was there such a dip in Boston's stats the last two years? Injury? If so, anyone know what happened and the likelihood that he can bounce back? He seems to have been really good at some point and at 6'2" would be a good fit for what we need ... He was using steroids (got a 4 game ban for it) and blew up to 250-260 while with the Chargers (they traded him because he refused to play at 225ish, he wanted to keep bulking up) and since then he's had recurring knee injuries in Miami. He's big and fast but he's been known to have attitude problems and his body could potentially be broken down by steroid use. He ended last season on IR so who knows what he's capable of anymore. If he gets back to 100% though, he can be on a short list of most talented WRs. The only thing is that's a freakin gigantic if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCASPER Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Ramsay is the man to run Al Saunders offense - he counts less against the cap than Brunell - but of course we would be lucky to get a Gary Clark rookie card for Brunell. I hate to give away another Trent Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Ramsay is the man to run Al Saunders offense - he counts less against the cap than Brunell - but of course we would be lucky to get a Gary Clark rookie card for Brunell. I hate to give away another Trent Green. There are ramifications for trading players in the NFL, like cap hits. Ramsey is still on his rookie contract (I'm fairly certain of that) so his cap hit would be minimal. Brunell's, on the other hand, would help to cripple us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I totally agree Casper -- but I fear the freakin cap mess will force the Skins to dump Ramsey. What a shame ... he will be a winner very soon ... for some other much luckier team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCASPER Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Remember the last time we dumped a QB that we had developed in the Redskin system for 4 years for an unproven high draft choice. Can you say "Heath Schuler"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanatic Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 He was using steroids (got a 4 game ban for it) and blew up to 250-260 while with the Chargers (they traded him because he refused to play at 225ish, he wanted to keep bulking up) and since then he's had recurring knee injuries in Miami. He's big and fast but he's been known to have attitude problems and his body could potentially be broken down by steroid use. He ended last season on IR so who knows what he's capable of anymore. If he gets back to 100% though, he can be on a short list of most talented WRs. The only thing is that's a freakin gigantic if. I didn't know that..interesting read. I remember when he was 'on' he was a great reciever that was a load to take down after the catch. Too bad he went that route, hopefully he's better now and learned from his mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodysDad Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 He was using steroids (got a 4 game ban for it) and blew up to 250-260 while with the Chargers (they traded him because he refused to play at 225ish, he wanted to keep bulking up) and since then he's had recurring knee injuries in Miami. He's big and fast but he's been known to have attitude problems and his body could potentially be broken down by steroid use. He ended last season on IR so who knows what he's capable of anymore. If he gets back to 100% though, he can be on a short list of most talented WRs. The only thing is that's a freakin gigantic if. Great info ... thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Remember the last time we dumped a QB that we had developed in the Redskin system for 4 years for an unproven high draft choice. Can you say "Heath Schuler"? well we dumped brad johnson as well...so moot point. Ramsey's only problem is his stern belief in his powerful arm. he throws a flat ball (better suited for west coast(as much as i hate that offence)) Mark had the ability to drop balls in over defenders which allows both verticle routes and short recievers. where as Ramsey's flat ball was more vunarable to deflection. i really like pat and felt he should have been developed more obc's lack of protection really hurt patrick gave him happy feet.i hope he is a winner where ever he may land as long as he isnt playin dem skins!!! also david boston is a roider we dont need or want him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Phins pick in the 2nd round lies right around where we pick. I'd rather have the Jets 2nd rounder because it's 36th. Beggers can't be choosers, though. Dolphins, please send 2nd round pick (48th overall) to Dan@redskins.com Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Assuming we trade him.Just as long as we get something decent for Ramsey im happy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCASPER Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Brunell's ability to drop balls in over defenders was because he doesn't have the arm strength to throw the ball on a line, I still shudder thinking about waiting for one of Kilmer's passes to finally come down to the receiver - and if not for Santana's ability to contort his body and make those Brunell saving catches - this discussion would be moot also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Remember the last time we dumped a QB that we had developed in the Redskin system for 4 years for an unproven high draft choice. Can you say "Heath Schuler"? I also remember Trent Green. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebagadonuts Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 i'd love to package ramsey and a draft pick for chris chambers. the guy doesn't have hands, he has tentacles. and he's a big target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyf316 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 OK people. 0% chance we get Chambers out of a flat trade for Ramsey. The Dolphins' second round pick is so close to ours, it's not a benefit to us to include it in the trade. Everybody seems to be against Boston as a WR, for apparently valid reasons. So what DO we ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21KillzCowboys Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 OK people.0% chance we get Chambers out of a flat trade for Ramsey. The Dolphins' second round pick is so close to ours, it's not a benefit to us to include it in the trade. Everybody seems to be against Boston as a WR, for apparently valid reasons. So what DO we ask for? Dolphins #2 for Ramsey. Cheap, talented, young QB for a mid 2nd round pick is a fair trade. A mid #3 is questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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