stwasm Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I guess his trade value just plunged, eh? The Dolphins probably should try to see if they could trade up to get Reggie Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Technically, you are a criminal if you're smoking dope. We're not here to deliberate over whether it should be legal, we're here to discuss an NFL player's use of the substance.If you play in the NFL, you have to adhere to their rules and regulations. I didn't realize there were those kind of parameters limiting what we could "deliberate over." Look. Marijuana is relatively harmless. It is certainly no worse than drinking. It is silly to lay a guy off for a year, or put a guy in jail, over something like it. When such an injustice happens one has a right to label it as such. The fact that there is a law about something does not entail that the law is right. Remember slavery and segregation were once legally permissable and alcohol was once illegal. By your logic, those laws should have never been questoned. The law is suppossed to be questioned in a democratic society. Our legal codes are for and of the people, not handed down by God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13913976.htm Miami Herald on the scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastlove Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13913976.htmMiami Herald on the scene... Then it's official Bob Marley has given up on his NFL career for a cheap high, bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 I didn't realize there were those kind of parameters limiting what we could "deliberate over." Look. Marijuana is relatively harmless. It is certainly no worse than drinking. It is silly to lay a guy off for a year, or put a guy in jail, over something like it. When such an injustice happens one has a right to label it as such. The fact that there is a law about something does not entail that the law is right. Remember slavery and segregation were once legally permissable and alcohol was once illegal. By your logic, those laws should have never been questoned. The law is suppossed to be questioned in a democratic society. Our legal codes are for and of the people, not handed down by God. Murder is also a illegal as well, but I guess thats not right either? Anybody can play that game. You can't compare two completely different laws. Does alcohol lead to the use of other drugs? Not really the point of this discussion though, Ricky was told not to do it and what would happen if he did. The fault is on him alone. They have rules for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Oh my gosh? Is this guy the most retarded guy on the planet? Why dosnt he just ask Edgerinn James, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, or sombody how to pass weed test? My god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Murder is also a illegal as well, but I guess thats not right either? Anybody can play that game. OK. I see where you are confused. I'll explain it to you using your own example: murder.Murder is wrong. It is illegal because it is wrong, not wrong because it is illegal. If the law said murder was OK, it would still be wrong. You see? Murder is wrong whether or not the law says so. Just the same, there is nothing wrong with smokin' a li'l dope regardless of what the law says. While we are speaking of it, I should point out that certain kinds of murder are legal (if we define murder as prematurely ending human life). Capital punishment, abortion, and waging war come to my mind. I won't venture a geuss as to whether those laws are on the side of right or wrong. However, it is worth noting that issues about murder and legality are not as clear as they may seem at first. Does alcohol lead to the use of other drugs? I'll put it to you this way: I've never seen a drug adict who didn't drink. Furthermore, I would bet they started drinking before they started doing drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 the 'another micheal irvin' comment is assinine. First off, you are the utterly stupid one.... its asinine And second off , i was just comparing him to Irvin, they both are into illegal activities.. whats the difference? what he IS doing is illegal, just like Irvin. Are you defending irvin or something? Kids look up to these guys and the ones like these guys are POS's in my honest opinion for letting KIDS down, more than anything. I dont care what team they play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs44 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 what a dumb SOB... heres to watching Ricky on where are the now in a few years.... puff puff pass :loser: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Who cares. Let him smoke dope if he wants. Its not like it is a performance enhancer.Are they now testing for marijuana in the offseason? No wonder he quit. I'll tell you this much: If I was an NFL running back, I'd probably want a hit. Those guys get beat up bad man. . . Won't it be nice when they actually make it legal? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Just remember Charley Casserly wanted to draft him....this is one time I am glad Norv followed his gut and went with Champ Bailey instead of Ricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 OK. I see where you are confused. I'll explain it to you using your own example: murder.Murder is wrong. It is illegal because it is wrong, not wrong because it is illegal. If the law said murder was OK, it would still be wrong. You see? Murder is wrong whether or not the law says so. Just the same, there is nothing wrong with smokin' a li'l dope regardless of what the law says. How do you tell whats right and wrong? Wrong is relative to your definition of wrong. So say I think marijuana is wrong, well then thats what I think. Crazy how that works eh? Just because you say its not wrong doesn't mean its not. However, until the majority of society views it as "ok" the laws won't reflect that. Comparing the fight for legalization to Marijuana with the fight for civil rights just seemed very foolish to me. However again this isn't the point of the arguement. He was warned numerous times what would happen if he did it again. And also the reports don't identify his drug of choice. If it's heroine how would you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2336760 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5345528 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 It was just reported by ESPN that Ricky Williams has "allegedly" failed another drug test!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If this is true, doesn't that mean that he's banned from the League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If this is true, doesn't that mean that he's banned from the League?I believe that you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg28daman Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Whoa thats huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If it's true, he should be banned....How much can one man love weed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If this is true, doesn't that mean that he's banned from the League? I saw on Espnews that he would be suspended for 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliteProducer Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Here is a take on Ricky from http://www.robertlittal.com .. this dude is funny The Chronic 2006 2-20-06 I have a confirmed report that Pretty Ricky (click on his name for full story) Williams has failed another drug test and in all likelihood will be suspended for the year. Pretty Ricky just couldn’t stay away from the Chronic. The sticky icky has a way of pulling you back in, no matter how many yoga classes you take. No matter how many Holistic Classes you take, sometimes you find yourself sitting at home watching Cinemax After Dark and that blunt is just calling your name. Next thing you know you are sitting on the couch watching your 3rd episode Passion’s Cove with a bag of Red Hot Riplets, a 2 liter of grapeVess soda and a blunt Snoop Dogg would be proud of. To be honest I am shocked Pretty Ricky made it through the year, but in his honor I will roll up a phat one for him this evening (even though I don’t smoke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Redskins Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 The Dolphins should have traded him while they had the chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jservs7 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Williams rules! And so does weed! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 How do you tell whats right and wrong? Wrong is relative to your definition of wrong. So say I think marijuana is wrong, well then thats what I think. Crazy how that works eh? Careful with that relativism. It is so nihilistic it is self defeating. Say I think relatavisim is wrong. Then it is. You see?However, until the majority of society views it as "ok" the laws won't reflect that. Its interesting that you should say that because many public opinion polls suggest that the majority actually favors legalization. The laws are starting to catch up to public opinion too. Its legal in Denver now, for example.Comparing the fight for legalization to Marijuana with the fight for civil rights just seemed very foolish to me.Indeed. I was just trying to point out that the law is not always just/good/right. The Civil Rights Movement was one of this country's proudest moments. Reforming silly marijuana laws is nothing in comparison. However again this isn't the point of the arguement. He was warned numerous times what would happen if he did it again. And also the reports don't identify his drug of choice. If it's heroine how would you feel?Ricky strikes me as an average stoner (i.e. just weed). Do you really think it is heroine? You are right about one thing though: He was warned and knew better. That still doesn't change the fact that it is a silly rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 were is the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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