Cdowwe Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/18/president.mistakes.ap/index.html LOUISVILLE, Kentucky (AP) -- From engaging in sexual relations with an intern to letting the Vietnam War escalate, U.S. presidents have been blamed for some egregious errors. So who had the worst blunder? President James Buchanan, for failing to avert the Civil War, according to a survey of presidential historians organized by the University of Louisville's McConnell Center. The survey's top 10 presidential blunders were announced Saturday during a President's Day weekend conference called "Presidential Moments." "We can probably learn just as much -- or maybe even more -- by looking at the mistakes rather than looking at why they were great," said political scientist and McConnell Center Director Gary Gregg. Scholars who participated said Buchanan did not do enough to oppose efforts by Southern states to secede from the Union before the Civil War. The second worst mistake, the survey found, was Andrew Johnson's decision just after the Civil War to side with Southern whites and oppose improvements in justice for Southern blacks beyond abolishing slavery. "We continue to pay" for Johnson's errors, wrote Michael Les Benedict, an Ohio State University history professor emeritus. Lyndon Johnson earned the No. 3 spot by allowing the Vietnam War to intensify, Gregg said. Where does Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky scandal rank? Many scholars said it belonged at No. 10, saying that it probably affected Clinton's presidency more than it did American history and the public. The rest of the top 10 blunders: 4: Woodrow Wilson's refusal to compromise on the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. 5: Richard Nixon's involvement in the Watergate cover-up. 6: James Madison's failure to keep the United States out of the War of 1812 with Britain. 7: Thomas Jefferson's Embargo Act of 1807, a self-imposed prohibition on trade with Europe during the Napoleonic Wars. 8: John F. Kennedy allowing the Bay of Pigs Invasion that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis. 9: Ronald Reagan and the Iran-Contra Affair, the effort to sell arms to Iran and use the money to finance an armed anti-communist group in Nicaragua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/18/president.mistakes.ap/index.htmlLOUISVILLE, Kentucky (AP) -- From engaging in sexual relations with an intern to letting the Vietnam War escalate, U.S. presidents have been blamed for some egregious errors. So who had the worst blunder? President James Buchanan, for failing to avert the Civil War, according to a survey of presidential historians organized by the University of Louisville's McConnell Center. The survey's top 10 presidential blunders were announced Saturday during a President's Day weekend conference called "Presidential Moments." "We can probably learn just as much -- or maybe even more -- by looking at the mistakes rather than looking at why they were great," said political scientist and McConnell Center Director Gary Gregg. Scholars who participated said Buchanan did not do enough to oppose efforts by Southern states to secede from the Union before the Civil War. The second worst mistake, the survey found, was Andrew Johnson's decision just after the Civil War to side with Southern whites and oppose improvements in justice for Southern blacks beyond abolishing slavery. "We continue to pay" for Johnson's errors, wrote Michael Les Benedict, an Ohio State University history professor emeritus. Lyndon Johnson earned the No. 3 spot by allowing the Vietnam War to intensify, Gregg said. Where does Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky scandal rank? Many scholars said it belonged at No. 10, saying that it probably affected Clinton's presidency more than it did American history and the public. The rest of the top 10 blunders: 4: Woodrow Wilson's refusal to compromise on the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. 5: Richard Nixon's involvement in the Watergate cover-up. 6: James Madison's failure to keep the United States out of the War of 1812 with Britain. 7: Thomas Jefferson's Embargo Act of 1807, a self-imposed prohibition on trade with Europe during the Napoleonic Wars. 8: John F. Kennedy allowing the Bay of Pigs Invasion that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis. 9: Ronald Reagan and the Iran-Contra Affair, the effort to sell arms to Iran and use the money to finance an armed anti-communist group in Nicaragua. So much for that "liberal" CNN huh? Iraq is not even on the list :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 So much for that "liberal" CNN huh? Iraq is not even on the list :doh: That is because it is far far from a blunder :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 So much for that "liberal" CNN huh? Iraq is not even on the list :doh: I dont think this list shows that CNN is not liberal in anyway. We all know they are slanted to the left. But I think its a little too soon to judge Iraq yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 That is because it is far far from a blunder :laugh: Or because it remains to be seen. If, 100 years from now, the Middle East is a bastion of democracy, in large part because of our actions in Iraq, Bush may be known as a bold and brilliant leader. If not, he'll likely make this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 "Lyndon Johnson earned the No. 3 spot by allowing the Vietnam War to intensify" Another quality Pres. from TX. He didn't want to got shot! Imo he was in on the JFK murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 So much for that "liberal" CNN huh? Iraq is not even on the list :doh: Actually, CNN didn't compile this list. It was a survey of presidential historians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 So much for that "liberal" CNN huh? Iraq is not even on the list :doh: I thought that was interesting too, but I think they don't want to try to act as fortune tellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Its too recent to add Iraq 2. Presidential historians like to look at all the factors before and after the event, and their impact on history. However, Iraq 2 started over WMD that were never found and probably never really existed. I'd call that a blunder. Perhaps not top 10 all time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Or because it remains to be seen.If, 100 years from now, the Middle East is a bastion of democracy, in large part because of our actions in Iraq, Bush may be known as a bold and brilliant leader. If not, he'll likely make this list. Bingo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Or because it remains to be seen.If, 100 years from now, the Middle East is a bastion of democracy, in large part because of our actions in Iraq, Bush may be known as a bold and brilliant leader. If not, he'll likely make this list. what's this,? a non-partisan voice of reason? i must be hallucinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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