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Mickalino

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If it wasn't airplanes that blew up the WTC towers, and the Pentagon (according to the Conspiracy Theorists), then how do we have so many people who talked to passengers on those flights, BOTH the United AND the American flights ?? I happen to know the guy who worked in the American Airlines reservation center that took a phone call from a hysterically frightened Flight Attendant aboard one of the AA flights that hit the WTC. He said she explained in horror the details of the hijackers, and then there was a complete, dead, permanent silence over the phone....right at the same moment of the explosion of the WTC building......in the meantime, he's been intensive therapy ever since.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_en_tv/tv9_11_movie

Flight 93' Draws Record A&E Audience

2 hours, 15 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - A television movie about one of the doomed Sept. 11 airplanes was A&E's most-watched program ever, a sign that audiences may be ready for a coming spate of movie and TV projects dramatizing the terrorism of five years ago.

"Flight 93," about the hijacking of the United Airlines plane and passengers' efforts to retake it, drew 5.9 million viewers when it premiered Monday, the cable channel said.

It was the most-watched A&E program since the channel launched in 1984.

The movie was based on public records, including phone conversations between passengers on the plane bound from Newark, N.J., to San Francisco and their relatives and friends.

Officials believe the hijackers of the aircraft, which crashed in a Pennsylvania field, had targeted either the White House or the U.S. Capitol.

Other upcoming projects about the day in 2001 that included attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon include an ABC miniseries and several feature films, including one from director Oliver Stone and starring

Nicolas Cage.

The ill-fated United Airlines flight also is the subject of "Portrait of Courage: The Untold Story of Flight 93," a one-hour documentary airing 7 p.m. EST Monday, Feb. 13 on the i channel, formerly the PAX TV network.

A&E's "Flight 93" will repeat at noon EST on Saturday and Sunday and at 3 p.m. EST on Wednesday, Feb. 8.

Last fall, "The Flight that Fought Back," a Discovery Channel special that mixed reenactments and interviews, drew a hefty 7 million viewers.

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Wait, I may not know, but what do these conspircay theorist agrue blew up the WTC insetead of planes? The only thing about 9/11 I don't believe is that the hijackers took over the plane with nail files and letter openers. I think those nail files were attached to semi automatice weapons, but thats just me.

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i believe planes flew into the towers...but i do believe there was a cover up and BUSH knew it was going to happen....but allowed it to in order to have a reason for war. Why do you think BUSH let all those family members of BIN LADEN escape from the US by plane when no one else was allowed to fly ????? Thats i question id like answered KILMER

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That was too easy.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

Claim: Secret flights whisked bin Laden family members and Saudi nationals out of the U.S. immediately after September 11 while a general ban on air travel was still in effect, and before the FBI had any opportunity to question any of the passengers.

Status: False.

Origins: In the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks on America, the Federal Aviation Administration immediately ordered all flights in the United

States grounded, and that ban stayed in effect until September 13. (Even then, for that first day commercial carriers were mostly either completing the interrupted flights of September 11 or repositioning empty aircraft in anticipation of the resumption of full service. New passenger flights did not generally resume until the 14th.) During that two-day period of full lock-down, only the military and specially FAA-authorized flights that delivered life-saving medical necessities were in the air. The enforcement of the empty skies directive was so stringent that even after the United Network for Organ Sharing sought and gained FAA clearance to use charter aircraft on September 12 to effect time-critical deliveries of organs for transplant, one of its flights carrying a human heart was forced to the ground in Bellingham, Washington, 80 miles short of its Seattle destination, by two Navy F/A-18 fighters. (The organ completed its journey after being transferred to a helicopter.)

The claim that bin Laden family members (and other Saudis) were allowed to secretly fly out of the U.S. and back to Saudi Arabia while a government-imposed ban on air travel was in effect, all without any intervention by the FBI, has since been negated by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the "9/11 Commission"). In their final report, the commission noted:

Three questions have arisen with respect to the departure of Saudi nationals from the United States in the immediate aftermath of 9/11: (1) Did any flights of Saudi nationals take place before national airspace reopened on September 13, 2001? (2) Was there any political intervention to facilitate the departure of Saudi nationals? (3) Did the FBI screen Saudi nationals thoroughly before their departure?

First, we found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001. To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened.

Second, we found no evidence of political intervention. We found no evidence that anyone at the White House above the level of [National Security Council official] Richard Clarke participated in a decision on the departure of Saudi nationals ... The President and Vice President told us they were not aware of the issue at all until it surfaced much later in the media. None of the officials we interviewed recalled any intervention or direction on this matter from any political appointee.

Third, we believe that the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals who left the United State on charter flights. The Saudi government was advised of and agree to the FBI's requirements that passengers be identified and checked against various databases before the flights departed. The Federal Aviation Administration representative working in the FBI operations center made sure that the FBI was aware of the flights of Saudi nationals and was able to screen the passengers before they were allowed to depart.

The FBI interviewed all persons of interest on these flights prior to their departures. They concluded that none of the passengers was connected to the 9/11 attacks and have since found no evidence to change that conclusion. Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights.

The 9/11 Commission also expanded on the following points in footnotes to the section of the report quoted above:

During the morning of September 11, the FAA suspended all nonemergency air activity in the national airspace. While the national airspace was closed, decisions to allow aircraft to fly were made by the FAA working with the Department of Defense, Department of State, U.S. Secret Service, and the FBI. The Department of Transportation reopened the national airspace to U.S. carriers effective 11:00 A.M. on September 13, 2001, for flights out of or into airports that had implemented the FAA's new security requirements.

After the airspace reopened, nine chartered flights with 160 people, mostly Saudi nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. In addition, one Saudi government flight, containing the Saudi deputy defense minister and other members of an official Saudi delegation, departed Newark Airport on September 14. Every airport involved in these Saudi flights was open when the flight departed, and no inappropriate actions were taken to allow those flights to depart.

Another particular allegation is that a flight carrying Saudi nationals from Tampa, Florida, to Lexington, Kentucky, was allowed to fly while airspace was closed, with special approval by senior U.S. government officials. On September 13, Tampa police brought three young Saudis they were protecting on an off-duty security detail to the airport so they could get on a plane to Lexington. Tampa police arranged for two more private investigators to provide security on the flight. They boarded a chartered Learjet. The plane took off at 4:37 P.M., after national airspace was open, more than five hours after the Tampa airport had reopened, and after other flights had arrived at and departed from that airport. The three Saudi nationals debarked from the plane and were met by local police. Their private security guards were paid. and the police then escorted the three Saudi passengers to a hotel where they joined relatives already in Lexington. The FBI is alleged to have had no record of the flight and denied that it occurred, hence contributing to the story of a "phantom flight." This is another misunderstanding. The FBI was initially misinformed about how the Saudis got to Lexington by a local police officer in Lexington who did not have firsthand knowledge of the matter. The Bureau subsequently learned about the flight.

These flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI. For example, one flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. Screening of this flight was directed by an FBI agent in the Baltimore Field Office who was also a pilot ... The Bin Ladin flight and other flights we examined were screened in accordance with policies set by FBI headquarters and coordinated through working-level interagency processes. Although most of the passengers were not interviewed, 22 of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin flight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity.

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And I'd like proof the any family of Bin Laden was allowed to leave before flights were resumed.

lmao...do you need any proof that he has ties with the BIN LADEN family ??? why wouldnt he let them escape ??? C'mon and think for a minute....why would there be any "proof" of it anyway ?? that wouldnt make any sense on BUSH end...you ever heard of " covering up your own ass " ???

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You guys have to watch the video I linked. If you are supposed to be working now I wouldnt recommend it. If you are on 56k I wouldnt recommend it.

But if you have the time, I implore you to check it out. There is some interesting stuff on there.

I would advise KILMER watch it.......the answer to his question is on the video....

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i believe planes flew into the towers...but i do believe there was a cover up and BUSH knew it was going to happen....but allowed it to in order to have a reason for war. Why do you think BUSH let all those family members of BIN LADEN escape from the US by plane when no one else was allowed to fly ????? Thats i question id like answered KILMER

Flip,Flop,Filp,Flop.........make up you minds either "BUSH" is and idiot and hes not capable of running the country -or- hes a super genius that can orchestrate and cover up the biggest conspiracy of all time? Witch is it?

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If there is one ****ing thing I hate, is people thinking that 9/11 was allowed to happen, or it was planned by our own government

Good God man, there was thousands of cars packed on 395 traffic that watched the Pentagon get hit, millions of people watched LIVE the god damn 2nd tower get hit

Yes the alarms were going off the summer of 2001, but nobody knew where or when we would get hit.

What is scary is I would not be surprised if there were MORE flights that day that were supposed to be hijacked but some terrorists got cold feet

Read Ghost Wars ghetto and your answers are all there, the whole damn thing laid out real well

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name calling?

Where did I do that?

Im simply pointing out that I took your initial claim, and proved it to be false in less than a minute. You have YET to offer any evidence to dispute that.

What's childish is simply ignoring facts that disprove your tinfoil hat theories.

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name calling?

Where did I do that?

Im simply pointing out that I took your initial claim, and proved it to be false in less than a minute. You have YET to offer any evidence to dispute that.

What's childish is simply ignoring facts that disprove your tinfoil hat theories.

All the proof u need is pretty much on that video....but u probably wont watch it ....i can dig it

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