Doodie987 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 LaVar isnt at his fullest and until he is you cant talk....he has played amazing in the past and even this year had some great games....and yes he is probly better....but dont go bashing MW hes good... so dont bash him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Marcus Washington is faster than Lavar at this point. Lavar has gained alot of weight since his knee injury and it's affected his game. He can still hit, but he doesn't have that explosion behind it anymore because he no longer has the speed or agility to close in. Washington is also a better blitzer, and doesn't make as many mistakes on the field. He sheds blocks better...what does he do that ISN'T better than Arrington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaSkinzBaby Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 Marcus Washington is faster than Lavar at this point. Lavar has gained alot of weight since his knee injury and it's affected his game. He can still hit, but he doesn't have that explosion behind it anymore because he no longer has the speed or agility to close in. Washington is also a better blitzer, and doesn't make as many mistakes on the field. He sheds blocks better...what does he do that ISN'T better than Arrington? I never meant for this to become a bashing MW thread. I wanted to know why people all of a sudden thought that MW was so much better than LA. We all know LA has been injured and someone even questioned the severity of his knee injury. All I know is I think LA is coming back better than before and both LA and MW will benefit and I see them both pro bowl starters next year. Offenses won't be able to block Griffin, Salevea, Washington and Arrington. Add ST into that equation THAT WILL RULE! :notworthy :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I never meant for this to become a bashing MW thread. I wanted to know why people all of a sudden thought that MW was so much better than LA. We all know LA has been injured and someone even questioned the severity of his knee injury. All I know is I think LA is coming back better than before and both LA and MW will benefit and I see them both pro bowl starters next year. Offenses won't be able to block Griffin, Salevea, Washington and Arrington. Add ST into that equation THAT WILL RULE! :notworthy :2cents: I don't think Lavar took care of himself properly the last offseason. Although he was injured and wasn't able to do cardio, he should've been eating better to keep his weight down. Instead, he got really big and no longer has the speed or quickness he used to have. It's difficult for a player to lose that and then gain it back, he may never be the player he used to be. I hope we retain him and he restructures, but if he never regains the ability he had before the injury then we won't be any better than he was this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 If you told me right now we could only keep washington or arrington. I'd choose washington. I think that about sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo4u Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 First off, if you play football you should know lavar hasnt done crap in the past two years. The fact that you think hes even close to Marcus's level is completly wrong. You play football still? With Pads? Where? Sign me up now. Now for lavar, i can go on and on how he stinks in this system and has stunk it up the past years even though he made the probowl. He is the most overrated player in the NFL the past 4 years. He would make homerun plays (knock out aikman), then he would take a few plays off and miss many assignments. You play football, you shoud know that football is about accountabilty and team work. Lavar is not realiable to his other teammates to be in the right spot. He manages to miss assignments over and over again. I dont hate lavar, I just hate how the past few years redskins fans thought he was god when he really was crap. Just a big body. IF u watch anything this past year YOU and any other football player would realize how slow and out of shape lavar was this past year. You can say he was injured, but seriously how long does it take to get a knee better. Running backs in the NFL have had much worse injuries, but they are running the ball better than they ever have. (maghee, edjerin james). Lavar was lazy these past two years didnt do any hard work, didnt participate in off season training. If he wants to stay here he needs to put in a lot of work like the rest of his team. O.K. buddy, you know more than all of us. I still do play, and if you want I can sign you up. The only thing is, I don't know if YOUR football IQ is as good as you think Mr. Arrington's is bad!!!!! Stay on the board, hate the players, and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I have read so many posts here bashing LA and people here thinking that MW is better than LA. Why is that? MW from what I have seen and read wasn't that highly touted in Indianapolis so why is it now he is the next Wilber Marshall? MW has 1 pro bowl compared to LA's 3. I really want to see LA at 100% and I also wonder if people will turn on MW if he gets hurt as LA has been. I also don't recall him having any hits like what LA has had or is capible of having. IMHO a healthy LA is stronger, faster and simply more gifted that MW. So please post some inteligent insight so we can discuss this.HTTR :point2sky You included the answer in your question. MW is a smarter player on the filed. He always fills his assignments. If we were to follow your logic that the most physically gifted man is the best line backer than MW and LA would be behind Robert McCune as our #1 guy, but anybody who would claim that would need their head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I personally believe LaVar is better perimeter to perimeter whereas Marcus is better in coverage. I'd say they're even though Marcus is more mature off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I wanted to know why people all of a sudden thought that MW was so much better than LA. Well, this year, Washington has been a better LB than Lavar. Personally, while I think Lavar has been a talent, he's never quite lived up to his hype here. Mainly, I fault the revolving door at DC more than anything, since being asked to do different things every year will hamper anyone's development. I do think that having a healthy offseason will help in giving Lavar a better season next year. It usually takes a couple of years to fully recover from a knee injury. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 As long as there are several Lavar threads a day, as there have been for 1,684 days in a row, I don't care what they're about! :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaSkinzBaby Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 As long as there are several Lavar threads a day, as there have been for 1,684 days in a row, I don't care what they're about! :dunce: Well then why waste your time posting? Besides this isn't a LaVar thread. This is a thread for members to discuss why MW is viewed as better than LA. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I am not going to even bother readin this thread at all just because I am tierd of people taking sides on this issue like so many others regarding this team. I will say this though and it is something all of you will have to learn to live with: Lemar Marshall Marcus Washington Lavar Arrington There is you best starting tantum of linebackers in the NFL next year! :applause: Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixius Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 LaVar can be better if GW give him assignments that he is capable of or whats he best at doing. Then he wont have a reason to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Well then why waste your time posting? Besides this isn't a LaVar thread. This is a thread for members to discuss why MW is viewed as better than LA. :2cents: Not being flip with you, but why ask why? You already know why I did it, it just bothered you a bit that I did do it and what I was implying. Equally obviously, ALL the threads about Lavar have something to do with Lavar and members discussing Lavar ad infinitum. And in this thread, the theme is actually a turned around version of what you stated. The "NOT" at the end of the sentece, which I saw, says this is a thread about how Lavar is better, or at least "even". Hence it's more about Lavar according to the starter . At any rate, I was referring to the absurd (IMO) level of fascination and rumination about All Things Lavar as a whole. And the five seconds used there, or the 2 minutes used here, are hardly an issue. It helps to vent sometimes after so much "oh, jeez, still more." I realize I am very alone in such feelings. Given your name, I understand if you may take a bit more of a reaction than I intend, but honestly, it was a heartfelt yet needling generality, not a real personal affront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 so...has anyone kept stats throughout the season on how many times each defensive player was either "not in position" or "not in the position GW's system dictates he be in"? and what decision process led to that calamatous state? uh huh. I thought so. just random play selection. you don't have a friggin clue what the overall % is or how each player actually performed.....so cut the posturing......Janets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 ....so cut the posturing......Janets You'd take away my best moves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 "I dont hate lavar, I just hate how the past few years redskins fans thought he was god when he really was crap. Just a big body." I'm sorry Mr "I played Football" In deference to your self acclaimed expertise, it escapes me how "...he really was crap" qualifies as insider, let alone dignified, football terminology. but maybe you meant fantasy football.....non? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Jumbo.....for you...anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbar3383 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Pro bowls do not denote talent. The pro bowl is a popularity contest, nothing more. If you want proof...... Vick made the pro-bowl this year, look up his stats. Washington is better than Lavar at this time. Past is nothing but memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaredskin Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think it is senseless to argue over who of our top players is better. We all are entitled to our favorites. I love them both, but Marcus Washington is my favorite player, for his attitude, enthusiasm, leadership & skills on & off the field. But if you want to debate stats this year: POST-SEASON Tackles: http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/TAC/2005/post Marcus Washington: #2 (11 tackles, 5 assists) LaVar Arrington: #15 (9 tackles, 2 assists) Both: 1 interception. Lavar 21 yards, Marcus 13. Fumbles recovered: Marcus: 1. LaVar: 0. REGULAR SEASON Sacks: http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFC/SCKS/2005/regular Marcus Washington: 7.5 sacks, 93 tackles. (#19 in NFC). LaVar Arrington: >#30 Tackles: http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFC/TAC/2005/regular Marcus Washington: #21 (NFC): 93 total, 73 tackles, 20 assists, 7 PDef LaVar Arrington: >#30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zt155 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Arrington is a better athlete. And Jeff George has a better arm than Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Dude88 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 mw is a great system guy, LA probably has more physical talent. if he stays, which i hope he does, i think lavar will be closer to mw production next season. I feel the same way. I'm also not near-sighted enough (like some of us can be at times) to know that LA caused his own demise early in the season. He made practice time & drills about him...instead of about what the coach wanted. He was superioior @ Penn because the coaches let him do what/when he wanted. Spurrier had no backbone, nor did Norv. LA finally ran into a student/scholar of the game in JGibbs & felt that he knew what was better for the team than the coach. On a lesser scale this is similar to all the other primadonna cases a la Iverson. He felt as long as I play well on gameday...why work hard in practice. I applaud JG for having the integrity & the sack to enlighten LA that it's not all about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hu-bison-skinsfan Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Arrington is a better athlete. And Jeff George has a better arm than Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. True! Since when does "better" mean raw athleticism? I like LaVar, too but don't diss Marcus Washington. Umm...please get Peyton Manning's name from beside Tom Brady's (until he beats Florida -- I mean, gets his team over the hump). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macd36 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 didnt Lavar just knock out S.Alexander ? I know he has slowed down , but can still put a hurt on ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painfulyetloyal Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 LaVar can be better if GW give him assignments that he is capable of or whats he best at doing. Then he wont have a reason to complain. Dont you think GW would do this if he felt it would make this team better. Lavar doesnt always follow assignments, thats why he's used sparingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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