bbuzz1962 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Did you see that hit on Carson Palmer today?? It ended his season and god knows may have damaged his career. The official comittee must do something to stop these hits. A similiar hit to Brunell could have taken him out if not for the knee brace he was wearing. I know its football, contact sport, yada yada, but when you see someone barreling in on a leg with a shoulder pad, it usually ends up with a severe injury. The Bengals season has been ruined by the hit, and I for one, would support any rule that banned shoulder pad to thigh or knee hits. It should be a suspension as well, four weeks or more. The only exception would be if the offensive lineman pushed the defensive player into the person hit. When you think about the consequences of these injuries, it is just devastating when it happens to a quarterback. I think we all know how long it takes to recover from knee ligament surgery, and the player is never going to be the same. I can only hope they consider this hit like they have the horse collar rule. Get well soon Carson, I enjoy watching you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Quarterbacks are already protected enough. They can run the ball as well and strap on a helmet like everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hmm? That didn't look intentional to me. I hope you're not serious. Players can't make perfect tackles every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 The rule would be for everyone, not just quarterbacks. If you are close enough to drive your shoulder into the leg, you are close enogh to wrap the person up. I was being very specific about the type of hit, and there is a rule already that doesn't get enforced. Ask Joe Gibbs about the hit on Brunell. Any hit that is considered "low" can be penalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyholetsgogrant Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I kinda actually agree, especially crack backing, like the Broncos do.....I'm not saying the steelers were told to take palmer out, but the best chance they had to win the game was by taking Carson Palmer out. -Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Personally, I think that the "down by contact" rule needs to be adjusted. The fact that it can't be reviewed/challenged is silly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinthemboys Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 It looked like to me he was going for the sack and was blocked down and into palmers legs. It didnt look intentional to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 yes and the quarterbacks should be covered in bubble wrap as well. can never be too cautious with our precious quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 How would you bring down Bettis??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlett316 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Why don't we just give all the players flags to wear. If you get the flag he's down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Alx Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 The rule would be for everyone, not just quarterbacks. If you are close enough to drive your shoulder into the leg, you are close enogh to wrap the person up. Just a quick comment on that. There is no way they could ever have that rule for a running back. He's all over the place and you get him down how you can, just don't grab his horse collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 If your gonna put a rule as you say into effect, you might as well put flags hanging from their belts. Pink panties optional. Shlitz happens in a violent sport such as football................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 This is football. I wonder what you would have thought about football in the 70's When close line tackles and head-slaps were legal. Injuries are a part of the game. No one wants to see them, but they are a huge part of this game. If guys are afraid to be hit, then they should play another sport...Bottom line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Those of us who have, or still do, play the game can say without a doubt that there are already MORE than enough rules limiting defensive players. It is already ridiculous and if you want it to go further then you might as well have the QBs wear a red jersey like they do in practice that says "dont touch me". It's football, not paddycake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 One more time for those of you who refuse to read before you make a statement. The rule is already there, it is not enforced as much as it should be. It goes for all players not just quarterbacks. Any intentional low hit to cause injury is a penalty. If you are blocked, or pushed, it is not a penalty. If it is or looks unintentional it is a judgement call. Ok?? I am not repeat not saying quarterbacks should get any additional help from rules or officiating. If I have not made myself clear, put the beer down, and check back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Good grief. It was an unintentional accident. Football is a contact sport. There's enough rules limiting contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Yeah did you see the look onhis face when he realized what happened? He looked genuinely upset about what happened. The hit to Palmer was definitely unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarsh1 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 geezus christ it's ****ing unintentional. The Steelers are my second favorite team behind the Redskins and Kimo Van Oelhoffen I swear did not do that on purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjcdaman Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Did you see that hit on Carson Palmer today?? It ended his season and god knows may have damaged his career. The official comittee must do something to stop these hits. A similiar hit to Brunell could have taken him out if not for the knee brace he was wearing.I know its football, contact sport, yada yada, but when you see someone barreling in on a leg with a shoulder pad, it usually ends up with a severe injury. The Bengals season has been ruined by the hit, and I for one, would support any rule that banned shoulder pad to thigh or knee hits. It should be a suspension as well, four weeks or more. The only exception would be if the offensive lineman pushed the defensive player into the person hit. When you think about the consequences of these injuries, it is just devastating when it happens to a quarterback. I think we all know how long it takes to recover from knee ligament surgery, and the player is never going to be the same. I can only hope they consider this hit like they have the horse collar rule. Get well soon Carson, I enjoy watching you play. The hit on Palmer was not intentional at all! You could see Van Olhoeffen was upset that it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 One more time for those of you who refuse to read before you make a statement. The rule is already there, it is not enforced as much as it should be. It goes for all players not just quarterbacks. Any intentional low hit to cause injury is a penalty. If you are blocked, or pushed, it is not a penalty. If it is or looks unintentional it is a judgement call. Ok?? I am not repeat not saying quarterbacks should get any additional help from rules or officiating. If I have not made myself clear, put the beer down, and check back later. I can point out anywhere from 10-15 times in every game that someone throws themselves into a defensive player's legs in an attempt to block, especially in the open field. For God's sake, QBs get commended for it ALL THE TIME. Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, etc get praised by commentators for being "tough guys" when they are too scared to block a defender head on and instead deliberatly fall right into their legs. If you wanna protect someone, protect the LB that gets his legs cut out from under him ALL THE DAMN time in the open field. I know from experience.....it sucks. But then again, we play defense - we dont score TDs - so no one really cares if we get a knee blown out or not. That's horsesh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalRedskinFan Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Why don't we just give all the players flags to wear. If you get the flag he's down! I totally agree with Parlett316! This is TACKLE football....maybe you should start watching soccer!:point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabronijames Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Put on a skirt, ya pansy! This is FOOTBALL! It is played by MEN! There are literally hundreds of tackles that occur every day that are shoulder to lower leg. One guy gets hurt and you want to change the rules. Go watch baseball if you don't want to see anyone get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaddow Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Personally, I think that the "down by contact" rule needs to be adjusted. The fact that it can't be reviewed/challenged is silly to me. I agree with this. I think it should be like a muff on a kick where if it is reversed the fumble cannot be advanced because usually on a down by contact the whistle has blown. It would be unfair to the fumbling team to have to chase a guy if the whistle is blown just because it *might* be overruled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjcdaman Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I agree with this. I think it should be like a muff on a kick where if it is reversed the fumble cannot be advanced because usually on a down by contact the whistle has blown. It would be unfair to the fumbling team to have to chase a guy if the whistle is blown just because it *might* be overruled. You kinda lost me with the "it's like a muffed kick" thing. How does a muffed kick correllate with down by contact. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 BBuz were you a QB or something in HS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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