smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ok, just thinkin out loud here. Something I have always wondered about when watching pass rushes, punt/FG attempts and goal line stands. My girlfriend is a gymnast. When she does floor exercises, I have seen her getting a running start and literally leap over the height of a man's head (and she is only 5'4"). Anyway, if she were a Safety on a football team in a safety blitz, she could easily jump and flip right over the biggest lineman right into the backfield. Question is this. If a 5'4" girl can do that, why can't a 6'4" male athlete be trained to do the same thing? It would be impossible to stop at the goal line. Maybe there is some rule against 'flipping' or something like that that I am not aware of, but I have always been curious about this. My girlfriend was watching the goal-line stand in Raiders/Giants game with me and she said - "why do they just keep running into the line, any gymnast could vault right over everyone into the endzone." I told her that I didn't actually know, maybe there is some rule against it. How about drafting a college high-jumper just to block FG's? Anyway, I know this is kind of a silly thread, so you don't need to tell me that, but it is something I have always just wondered about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsciambi Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm sure there are plenty of reason why they can't/don't. The biggest being that a guy who weighs in at around 220+ in full pads and a helmet isn't going to be doing gymnastics. In addition, can she do it with a football in hand, and people grabbing at the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRS Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You cannot use anything to help you up in the air - pushing off other players is illegal. Also, jumping straight up in the air would be hard, and timing a running start would be difficult as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well, actually, you don't have to have the 220+ plus guy doing this. It could be a 175 specialist. Like you said, I am sure there is some reason why the don't do this as it probably occured to them as well. I am just curious that's all. It seems like on the surface it would be possible. there may be some rule against sumersaulting on purpose over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 You cannot use anything to help you up in the air - pushing off other players is illegal. Also, jumping straight up in the air would be hard, and timing a running start would be difficult as well. I agree on timing a running start on defensive plays, but not on offense and short yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Notice they have taller players reaching to try and block it before it reaches its apex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Crazy & Stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Crazy & Stupid! Thanks hootman - i can always count on someone being an ass. It is something I am just curious about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Having a running back that could sumersault 8 feet in the air on the goal line might not be such a bad idea after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 just stating the obvious! How old is your girlfriend gymnast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundey Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Not sure but I think you can't use your teammate as a prop to jump up. I know it's not allowed in kicking situations (field goal and PAT). Plus, leaping into the air is probably more dangerous in terms of losing the ball, being stopped easily by a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Crazy & Stupid! i agree :sucks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Are you implying that you have someone leap over a pile in an attempt to block a field goal or PAT? If someone tried that and someone hit them, they'd more than likely be dead. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Grimm, where you get the skins sheild logo, cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richanathai Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 great idea replace shawn springs and Sean taylor with acrobatic chinese gymnasts, replace Brunell with a pole vaulter and replace Moss with a hurdler. Also we could block field goals with a cheerleaders pyramid and replace the entire special teams corp. :-) lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macnoke03 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 wow, just wow :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 sort of what made lavar famous with the lavar leap. Problem with it is, if you mistime the leap or the flip you're pretty easy to dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misery Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I don't think it could work - on FG clocks they would get called for that leaping off teammates, even if they didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 What if the safety pole-vaulted over the line? that would work too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 great idea replace shawn springs and Sean taylor with acrobatic chinese gymnasts, replace Brunell with a pole vaulter and replace Moss with a hurdler. Also we could block field goals with a cheerleaders pyramid and replace the entire special teams corp. :-) lmao Um, thanks for putting words in my mouth DS. Did I recommend any of that? My question is, what would be wrong with having a goal-line specialist with acrobatic training that could leap entirely over the line? It would be unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL4064 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 sort of what made lavar famous with the lavar leap. Problem with it is, if you mistime the leap or the flip you're pretty easy to dodge. yes yes we know this too well, the "Lavar leap" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: what a clown that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Bryant Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You do know that the floors used by gymnasts to do those tumbling runs are really springy, right? It wouldn't work nearly as well on grass or Astroturf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Still haven't answered about your girl! If she's the same age as you and can still do flips, bedtime must still be fun!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartestmaninamerica Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 lol, if you had a defender on the other team doing the same thing at the same time, that could get ugly when they hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL4064 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 What if the safety pole-vaulted over the line? that would work too hilarious :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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