SkinsTillIDie Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 he f***** sucks and shouldnt even be in the probowl. These MF's just put him in b/c the Hawks have a better record than us despite us beating them. Apparently, you haven't watched any Seahawks games apart from when we played them. Mack Strong could be the best pure fullback in the league - I don't know whether your comment portrays your ignorance or if he is just that underrated. Probably a combination of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 His cover skills ain't that bad. There aren't a lot of safeties out there better than Roy Williams to be honest. And also just like we say Sean Taylor can cover, people out of the DC area are probably saying the complete opposite. Saying he blows coverages and other stuff. We don't get Roy Williams games often. He won a game against Philly. Santana burned him, man Santana burns them all. He's just that good. I hate the cowboys as a whole but I can respect talent when I see it. (Except Michael Irvin, and Emmit Smith) You're right on the fact that Williams cover skills aren't that bad -- in fact, they're horrid, thus making his Pro-Bowl appearance a joke, especially because it's as a starter. Also, Williams is, at best, the fourth best safety in the division. Dawkins, Taylor, and Gibril Wilson have all played better than than him. One other thing: Jennifer Floyd Engel of the Dallas Forth Worth Times, one of the most respected beat reporters for the 'Boys, described Roy Williams as the most overrated player in the league in an article she wrote two days ago. As for winning a game in Philly, he simply caught a ball thrown right at him and ran 40 yards down the field. He "won" that game as much as Larry Brown deserved to be the Super Bowl MVP when he "intercepted" two passes directly thrown to him by Neil O'Donnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNFN_48 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Darren Sharper is the Choice @ FS. (He's tied for the NFC lead w/8 Int's and leads the NFC in INT yardage (which I didn't know was a real stat *just like a QB Hurry*). Ah well....hopefully this will provide ample motivation the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunarluau Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The playoffs and beyond is what really matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The reason Cooley doesn't make it as either a TE or FB is the same reason he's so good in Gibbs' scheme. He's neither a TE or FB -- he's a hybrid. Thus, when viewing him a FB, he does too little blocking to considered fully for that position. When viewed as a TE, he's not a true guy at that position either. I'd rather take the H-Back we've got in Cooley and won't worry about the disrespect he gets in a Pro-Bowl voting system that doesn't account for the specific position he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Snubbed again. Why do they ALWAYS hate!? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 THis is the best thing ever to happen to our defense. They'll be coming out mad on saturday!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPOMPILII Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Who gives a cr*# about the Pro-Bowl!!!! The only Bowl that counts is the Super Bowl & a big win this Saturday puts us one step closer. :gaintsuck :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorPickSix Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 How did Cooley not get in when he had the most fan votes at the position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtbags Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 wtf. cooley was the FB leader in votes NFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS Pos. Name, Team Votes Pos. Name, Team Votes QB Eli Manning, Giants 667,608 DE Michael Strahan, Giants 348,765 RB Shaun Alexander, Seahawks 1,110,575 IL Rod Coleman, Falcons 307,839 FB Chris Cooley, Redskins 422,314 OLB Demorrio Williams, Falcons 244,419 WR Steve Smith, Panthers 752,723 ILB Brian Urlacher, Bears 420,983 TE Jeremy Shockey, Giants 872,102 CB DeAngelo Hall, Falcons 287,958 T Orlando Pace, Rams 185,095 SS Roy Williams, Cowboys 216,180 G Larry Allen, Cowboys 248,561 FS Brian Dawkins, Eagles 193,166 C Olin Kreutz, Bears 207,047 P Josh Bidwell, Buccaneers 236,305 K Neil Rackers, Cardinals 533,004 ST Brendon Ayanbadejo, Bears 91,303 KR Willie Ponder, Giants 182,228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wholee Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It's dirty how they treat us. We hardly ever get respect, whether it's league officials or things like this. All we can do is play hard and keep supporting our team. We have to support them because it's clear that no one else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossMayne80 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Funny I posted a thread earlier about how I get irratated by people and the medias lack of respect towards the Skins then I come back a few hours later and read this thread...I also wrote how I had a bad feeling that Moss(Santana not Randy of course) may get screwed out of his trip to Hawii this year(glad i was wrong:whew: ),but instead Cooley,Washington and Taylor(even Springs)get the short end of the stick.I have no understanding why other football fans and the media have this personal grudge and hate towards our team..........I think we are the most hated team in the NFL(my opinion), the Texans probably get more respsect than us at times:wtf:,I don't know if this stuff you guys are saying is official so i'ma wait till 4:00 pm to find out for real, but if this **** is true i'ma be really ****ing pissed, i mean noone from our defense going:bsflag: check out my other posts to see what i had to say earlier................ Redskins will never win... hope the link came through ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Man none of you should be surprised at the lack of post season honors our players get. I'm not surprised because the Skins always get robbed for some reason. Hell when Art Monk didn't get in the hall of fame on the 1st ballot, you can't be surprised when other Skins get cheated out of their due respect for their play. Like everyone else has said, more motivation on he field. Sean Taylor may get the treatment that Mark May used to get. May was a hell of a offenseive linemen but he talked trash on the field which resulted in players from other teams not voting for him. We all know S. Taylor talks it up and I think other players don't like him so they don't vote for him. I wouldn't take another safety in the league over Sean Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Not surprised either. I'm kind of glad actually, Eli will think he's better than he is....and guess who will be furious. The Tarantula!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 How does it makes sense that Cooley was leading the votes at fullback, yet he doesn't get in? That is ridiculous. Marcus Washington not making it is even worse, at least Cooley is a first alternate, Washington didn't get any votes because he's not a household name yet. I knew alot of our players would get snubbed, it happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 springs has like 1 INT .You cant expect people notice him on a 8-6 team. And when they did most of the voting we did not got on this hot streak So. Remember All those years when Bailey was here and he ALWAYS had low INT numbers and he ALWAYS went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossMayne80 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 my other post.... Read on... Honolulu won't have room for everybody http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/sponsorships.nfl.com/fs/stories;arena=nfl;feat=stories;type=psa;user=Anony mous;cust=no;vip=no;sz=150x30;tile=5;ord=205241135 169483? By Adam Schefter Special to NFL.com </FONT>Adam Schefter's "Around the League" reports and commentaries can be seen regularly on NFL Total Access. (Dec. 20, 2005) -- When the Pro Bowl teams are announced Dec. 21, inevitably there will be some controversy surrounding some of the selections. Or, more appropriately, the non-selections. Take a look at the NFC wide receivers. Try to decide four among a group that includes Carolina's Steve Smith, Washington's Santana Moss, Tampa Bay's Joey Galloway, Arizona's Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin, St. Louis' Torry Holt, Dallas' Terry Glenn and the New York Giants' Plaxico Burress. The interesting part with Burress is that the Giants never have sent a wide receiver to the Pro Bowl. Ever. But Burress is on pace for 78 receptions, and has an outside chance to break Amani Toomer's single-season franchise record of 82 set in 2002. But take a look at that list. Four receivers, four quality receivers, are not going to make it to Hawaii. The competition at AFC wide receivers is just as fierce. Try to find four among Cincinnati's Chad Johnson, Indianapolis' Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, Denver's Rod Smith, Pittsburgh's Hines Ward, Jacksonville's Jimmy Smith, Miami's Chris Chambers and Baltimore's Derrick Mason. More than one deserving receiver is going to be left behind.. For some reason, the way I see it, the media and just about everyone else who is'nt a Skins fan is gonna screw this man out of his probobwl visit:( ,I pray i'm wrong:whoknows: __________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Man none of you should be surprised at the lack of post season honors our players get. I'm not surprised because the Skins always get robbed for some reason. Hell when Art Monk didn't get in the hall of fame on the 1st ballot, you can't be surprised when other Skins get cheated out of their due respect for their play. Like everyone else has said, more motivation on he field. Sean Taylor may get the treatment that Mark May used to get. May was a hell of a offenseive linemen but he talked trash on the field which resulted in players from other teams not voting for him. We all know S. Taylor talks it up and I think other players don't like him so they don't vote for him. I wouldn't take another safety in the league over Sean Taylor. Man, Shockey got in and his mouth is a trash can. I mean, do you really believe that of all they pro bowlers from this year, hell even years past, there was not at least one trash talker? Didn't Bill Romanowski go to some pro bowls? Other players liked him too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsmooth Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 In the words of Randy Thomas, give me the playoffs forget about the pro bowl (Hawaii) Redskins 30 Giants 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jservs7 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 This is the reason I never pay attention to any All Star game. Its like watching the Grammys; all based on sales and popularity. Some kind of rule should be made to make it more of a 50/50 decision between fan and coaching votes. In short: THIS SUX! :cuss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I've yet to see Shawn Springs get truly beaten in two years. not only are his cover skills as good as champ's, but he is much more physical, and a better tackler. i don't think there is a better corner in the NFC, and his name doesn't even get mentioned. a big, fat WTF?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentClinton07 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 That is fu$#in bullsh%t. And what about Shawn Springs???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I hate Shockey, but he has slightly better numbers with Cooley. Around 100 more recieving yards and an extra touchdown. Regardless, I don't see how Cooley still doesn't get in when he had more votes than anyone else at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 If Favre made it because it might be his last chance, how many more chances do they think Brunell is going to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Cooley and porits got the shaft. What else is new? Art Monk got shafted for the hall of fame. Gibbs teams never get the credit they deserve. However, they get the most important thing which is the W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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