nelms Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm Jewish. Jesus Christ isn't my God. Sorry. I'll use his name as I damn well please.And honestly, comparing my saying 'Jesus Christ' to this disgustingly awful ad is just plain stupid. Well, technically, Jesus Christ isn't "God", he's the "son of God". At least that's what I've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 The irony. I'll keep that in mind the next time you want people to be more sensitive toward Muslims and/or their beliefs.It's not the ad itself or your comments themselves. Nowhere in the ad does it say anything about Arabs in-general or Islam in-general. Are Arab or Muslim groups so inecure that they thing that image portrays themselves? CAIR, maybe, because that wouldn't be too far from the truth. Mainstream everyday people trying to earn a living? They would be smart enough to know the difference. If you want others to be sensitive to avoid offending others, though, start with yourself. Not everyone appreciates hearing the name of their God taken in vain. Please, gimme a break. I see what you're trying to do, and it's stupid. There is no parallel. Using someone else's lord's name in vain and portraying Arabs to look like terrorists are totally different. I'm not a government, and I'm not a billboard. I'm a dude on a message board using a phrase that has been commonly accepted as a type of exclaimation. You know damn well that I didn't mean anything by it, and well, you should know damn well that this billboard does mean to portray Arabs as terrorists. Quit it with the false parallels. For some reason you conservatives have been having a field day with 'em lately, and they just don't make sense. Things vary on scale, they vary on intention. Not everything is a matter of black and white, no matter how good for your viewpoint looking at things with perspective is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Well, technically, Jesus Christ isn't "God", he's the "son of God". At least that's what I've been told. Well then there you go. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Please, gimme a break. I see what you're trying to do, and it's stupid. There is no parallel. I'm making a comparison. Who said anything about parallels? I never said they were equal, on the same, exact plane or whatever. I could care less. I'm talking about hypocrisy. Not everyone accepts saying "Jesus Christ" as merely a harmless exclamation, as you so casually say. I personally could care less and it doesn't offend me. You can't just brush off the irony of saying the billboard is offensive to Arabs or Muslims, then say something that someone else might take offense at, though. It doesn't go both ways. Or one way, in this case. For some reason you conservatives have been having a field day with 'em lately, and they just don't make sense. I may have some conservative ideals, but that is the first time anyone has ever accused me of strictly being a conservative. I can't think of anything I've said in this thread as being a strictly conservative POV. Is it strictly conservative to not want to offend people who believe in the 10 Commandments for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why does everyone assume the person in the billboard is an arab or muslim? Shows alot about youre own biases and prejudices. The guy looks like a terrorist to me. I dont see a way to determine what race or religion the terrorist is by those pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why does everyone assume the person in the billboard is an arab or muslim?Shows alot about youre own biases and prejudices. The guy looks like a terrorist to me. I dont see a way to determine what race or religion the terrorist is by those pics. the headgear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm making a comparison. Who said anything about parallels? I never said they were equal, on the same, exact plane or whatever. I could care less. I'm talking about hypocrisy. Not everyone accepts saying "Jesus Christ" as merely a harmless exclamation, as you so casually say.I personally could care less and it doesn't offend me. You can't just brush off the irony of saying the billboard is offensive to Arabs or Muslims, then say something that someone else might take offense at, though. It doesn't go both ways. Or one way, in this case. I may have some conservative ideals, but that is the first time anyone has ever accused me of strictly being a conservative. I can't think of anything I've said in this thread as being a strictly conservative POV. Is it strictly conservative to not want to offend people who believe in the 10 Commandments for some reason? No, it's not. And while you may not be a conservative, everything in this thread points to it. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Nevertheless, you are trying to draw a false parallel. You're trying to make me look hypocritical for saying Jesus Christ. Saying Jesus Christ isn't anywhere near as intentionally offensive, and even to the people it is offensive to, it's nowhere near on the scale of this. So sure, maybe some hypersensitive Christians could be offended, but I'm not assaulting the image of an entire religion and culture by saying it. You know it's different, and your argument has little validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why does everyone assume the person in the billboard is an arab or muslim?Shows alot about youre own biases and prejudices. The guy looks like a terrorist to me. I dont see a way to determine what race or religion the terrorist is by those pics. Oh please Kilmer. You're smarter than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Oh please Kilmer. You're smarter than that. I actually thought he made a decent point, I mean, for all we know that guy on the billboard really enjoys his 2nd amendment rights like any other red blooded American patriot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Platypus Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Because grenades are necessary to protect your stereo and wife's wedding ring. They should just spray paint, "WTF, ROFL, J/K" across the billboard. Then they can just pretend it was a goof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsD Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 C'mon it's a stupid ad. And why all the Arab bashing? Yeah 14 Arabs hit us on 9/11 but there are billions of Arabs - don't judge them all. Living in NOVA I have many Arab friends, two of them were born in the middle east. They are cool people and just as American as you and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Oh please Kilmer. You're smarter than that. So are you Dave. This billboard isnt racist. But it does make for a good excuse to get outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 How would NC know if they are giving a license to a terrorist anyway? Have you ever seen anyone show up to the DMV holding a grenade or a rocket launcher? What is the real point of the billboard? Is there a place where a state can bring up a list of terrorists and then decide not to give them a license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceIwasaLittleGuy66 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I got an idea on this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why does everyone assume the person in the billboard is an arab or muslim?Shows alot about youre own biases and prejudices. The guy looks like a terrorist to me. I dont see a way to determine what race or religion the terrorist is by those pics. "The billboard image is striking: a photo of a man shrouded in a traditional Arab head scarf clutching a grenade and a North Carolina driver’s license." It's in the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm making a comparison. Who said anything about parallels? I never said they were equal, on the same, exact plane or whatever. I could care less. I'm talking about hypocrisy. Not everyone accepts saying "Jesus Christ" as merely a harmless exclamation, as you so casually say.I personally could care less and it doesn't offend me. You can't just brush off the irony of saying the billboard is offensive to Arabs or Muslims, then say something that someone else might take offense at, though. It doesn't go both ways. Or one way, in this case. I may have some conservative ideals, but that is the first time anyone has ever accused me of strictly being a conservative. I can't think of anything I've said in this thread as being a strictly conservative POV. Is it strictly conservative to not want to offend people who believe in the 10 Commandments for some reason? Okay, Dave admited he used it as an exclamation, but what i don't get is - who decides if it is used in vain? If he hadn't admited to using it as an exclamation, he could have defended himself by saying that he was seriously asking Jesus a question. Was my use of Jesus above in vain? Seems like you call a person faith into question when you say they are taking his name in vain. Maybe its just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 This is a racist add, plain and simple. . .it is nothing more then hate mongering, and trying to fear the population :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Jeez, lighten up people. All you minorities are too damn sensitive. It's just a picture. oops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Jeez, lighten up people. All you minorities are too damn sensitive. It's just a picture. oops... Man, that shows how far we have come, yet the thread shows us how far we still have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Jeez, lighten up people. All you minorities are too damn sensitive. It's just a picture. oops... Sho' nuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 YES! Diesel is exactly right. And while we're at it...I wish all those black people would go back to Africa and all those white SOB's would go back to Europe. Exactly !!! Now you're getting the picture....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Diesel,Are you really that racist? You do know we have arab CITIZENS right? Are their rights less than yours because they are Arab? seriously? Please explain your post as I would hope nobody really feels this way. If you do, those protesting the stupid billboard are absolutley right that this is just inciting blatant racism. Sad. So telling ungrateful sniveling immigrants to go home if they dont like free speech is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 So telling ungrateful sniveling immigrants to go home if they dont like free speech is racist. Read it again. He was saying that many of the people who are upset are American Citizens of Arab descent. What part of American Citizens do you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm Jewish. Jesus Christ isn't my God. Nobody's perfect, well almost nobody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 It is funny how ungrateful liberal Jews have Christians to thank for saving their collective behinds and giving them a place to prosper here in the States and in Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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