altair4 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Man, the things we have to do to create drama where there is none..... Our secondary will be fine. Is Cornelius on? He will be key to giving pressure on the ex-grocery-store-bag-boy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Griffin is going to be a huge help to our secondary this week I do not think the o-line of the Cardinals will be able to block him and Warner will not get enough time to throw up jump balls to Fitz and Boldin If he does get time though, look out, because both these cats can play real well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 holy cow, 5K posts. :paranoid: Congrats! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 :laugh:The thread is about Carlos Rogers and Shawn Springs... not Walt Harris. 'zoony is loony'... good stuff. Dam guys I realized I wasn't clear in my first post, but consider the context... dam I'm not that bad. :doh: Hey, I was on the same page. Rogers & Springs have NOT been abused thatmuch this year. Now, Walt Harris on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I think that had a little more to do with a rookie from Harvard starting against us than it did our secondary. Jesus, Springs had two passes bounce off his back. Actually, to be more accurate, the second pass bounced off of Marcus Washington, not Springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 It was an accident:laugh: Maybe the Mods can roll back your postometer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Griffin is going to be a huge help to our secondary this weekI do not think the o-line of the Cardinals will be able to block him and Warner will not get enough time to throw up jump balls to Fitz and Boldin If he does get time though, look out, because both these cats can play real well Exactly:cheers: covering those receivers is one thing. Dominating that turnstyle oline is a different story. How are Fitz and Boldin gonna get the ball with Warner on his back most of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Who was guarding these guys most of the time? Unfortunately, most of the yards those receivers got on us was while they were being "covered" by Walt Harris. They could put Ramsey out there & he could probably cover better then Walt at this point. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 They're only fantasy locks because the Cards throw the ball like 50+ times a game. Nothing to do with our secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 They're only fantasy locks because the Cards throw the ball like 50+ times a game. Nothing to do with our secondary That's what it is mostly... but do you think they would be "fantasy locks" against t he Bears? I just think Rogers and Springs can open alot of eyes this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce sure had big days last week huh? Not exactly a huge accomplishment with a rookie QB from harvard back there. And don't say he torched the Texans...who doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Unfortunately, most of the yards those receivers got on us was while they were being "covered" by Walt Harris. They could put Ramsey out there & he could probably cover better then Walt at this point. :doh: Actually in Galloway's case I remember Springs getting flat out owned...he didn't lay a hand on him coming off the line usually...and often released him way too early to the saftey. This btw is the problem, the Skins secondary as a whole has shown it can be exploited...any time you get Jerry Porter & Galloway locked up with Lemar Marshall there's been a critical breakdown somewhere. And this is precisely why, Fitzgerald & Boldin are good fantasy plays this week. Springs & Rogers won't be the only factors in whether they succeed, it will be the whole secondary...the whole scheme. Warner will test the secondary enough with these two WR's to beat us a few times... Motivate all you want, win the game...but I don't think you're shutting down Fitzgerald or Boldin completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 Actually in Galloway's case I remember Springs getting flat out owned...he didn't lay a hand on him coming off the line usually...and often released him way too early to the saftey.This btw is the problem, the Skins secondary as a whole has shown it can be exploited...any time you get Jerry Porter & Galloway locked up with Lemar Marshall there's been a critical breakdown somewhere. And this is precisely why, Fitzgerald & Boldin are good fantasy plays this week. Springs & Rogers won't be the only factors in whether they succeed, it will be the whole secondary...the whole scheme. Warner will test the secondary enough with these two WR's to beat us a few times... Motivate all you want, win the game...but I don't think you're shutting down Fitzgerald or Boldin completely. That play was more of a mixup in coverage than it was Springs getting owned. Springs thought a zone coverage was called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 That play was more of a mixup in coverage than it was Springs getting owned. Springs thought a zone coverage was called. On that one play yes, which is what I meant by "releasing to the safety too early", but there were a few other times, when Springs didn't think it necessary to even touch Galloway coming off the line. Galloway owned the whole secondary that day..and that's my point...Springs thinks it's zone..it isn't...something like that is all it takes for Boldin or Fitz to go off. The odds tell you taht if the Cards put it up enough...they will break something off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 That's what it is mostly... but do you think they would be "fantasy locks" against t he Bears? I just think Rogers and Springs can open alot of eyes this weekend. Thats a good point. They definently wouldn't be "locks" against a team like the Bears.Rogers against Fitz will be a great match-up on the jump-balls. I don't know if we can limit Boldin if he catches the ball in stride. Guys impossible to tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santanamoss89 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Fantasy wise Boldin in his last 6 games has:5 100yds games 5 games w/TD Doesnt get much better then that, especially going up against a rookie or Walt Harris. Uh oh. We may be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Even though the media might not respect them i'm sure these 2 recievers will. They will watch their game tape and find out they are for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1SkinsFan Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm trying to think of ANY wide receiver who's had a big day against EDIT Rogers/Springs so far this year. ?????? Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, and Joey Porter Thats about it........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 That's what it is mostly... but do you think they would be "fantasy locks" against t he Bears? I just think Rogers and Springs can open alot of eyes this weekend. The Bears bring pressure with their front four! We do not, haven't , won't, can't, for whatever reason. So there really is not comparing the two defenses.You could put the best corners in the league out their one on one with these two guys and the ball is bound to land in their hands a few times. Am I the only one here disappointed in our defense pressuring the QB? That explains alot of things when it comes to our DBs giving up big plays. Simple as that if you ask me. :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Come on guys, Im starting Boldin this week... Who else is too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs44 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 If someone just punches Brenda Warner in the mouth in the stands, poor Kurt wouldnt know what to do... thus throwing INT after INT... thats the key!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 heck forget about pressuring Kurt Warner, drop 10 into coverage and just leave Griffin rushing...that will keep J.J. Arrington and Marcel ship to under 2.5 yds a carry and make it real hard for WRs to get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Come on guys, Im starting Boldin this week... Who else is too? heck I've got Fitzy I have to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portis&taylor Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I hop ewe shut these guys down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Uh oh. We may be in trouble.MAN we are going to stump a mud hole in the cards. please everybody calm down. this team is not that good they struggle with the 49ers, a nteam we put 55 points on. we will win easy. holla back!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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