Spaceman Spiff Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 coming from the thread about the speeding ticket, and a convo with missu28, it got me thinking....when is it ok to lie? I'm not advocating lying, but I don't have a problem doing whatever it takes, short of bribery to get out of something like a speeding ticket. However when it comes to parents, co workers, authority figures, I don't think its a good idea... thats a pretty conscise take, but I know we have a lot of members on this board with strong opinions, so lets hear em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 We gotta define "lie" Is embellishing lying? Is a half truth a lie? Or is lying just blatantly saying something that is completely false I'll have to come back to this thread when I have my philosophical hat on and see a few other responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONCOBORN Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I dunno, maybe if its going to effect someones life in a bad way then thats the time to lie, shouldnt lie for something stupid if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 When you are in the store at FedEx Field and you are looking (gawking) at the cheerleaders who are signing autographs over by the hat section.... ....and your wife comes over and asks you if you are staring at the cheerleaders "assets"? ...it's okay to say "no, I just need a new hat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin-em Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 When she is a perfect 10, and it's just a little white lie. :wavetowel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 The motive matters, if it is to deceive so you can get something you wouldn't otherwise get then I consider it bad, otherwise it is only bad because it hurts credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs' Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Lie to protect one's feelings.... Lie to get out of trouble..... Bout sums it up to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Is telling a sarcastic joke the same as telling a lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Most honest people have gotten out of speeding tickets with me, or at worst reduced. Every person that has lied to me got a speeding ticket. Ex. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I have the problem with being brutally honest, I don't tend to care about peoples feelings. So for me I don't think the idea of lying is a good thing ever. I want people to be honest with me so I had better be with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddyShoo Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's OK to lie at all times. To paraphrase a quote from Chris Rock: "Men tell the most lies, women tell the biggest lies. Look at all you women lying. You wear makeup - your face doesn't look like that! You wear heels - you aren't that tall! You wear a Wonder-Bra - your bitties aren't that big!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNSTONE Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 There are definitly times that "NOT" lieing would be wrong. Like a guy with a bloody knife in his hand asking where some little kid ran off to. I know that's an extreme example, but it proves a point. But for the most part, lieing is wrong. What about if you're wife asks you "Do I look fat?" If you're going out on a date, don't say "Yes". That would be a jerk. But on the other hand, ladies don't put your man in that position and then get pissed at him for lieing. And that statement covers a lot more than that question, because immature women will set up a man like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 What about if you're wife asks you "Do I look fat?"If you're going out on a date, don't say "Yes". That would be a jerk. But on the other hand, ladies don't put your man in that position and then get pissed at him for lieing. And that statement covers a lot more than that question, because immature women will set up a man like that. Yeah, but if you answer "Yes" it might help motivating her on getting to the gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Lie when the other half'sgorgeous friend asksyou in front of the other half if this dress make her look fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It is never o.k. to lie. It is o.k. to not volunteer the truth in situations that call for tact, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I'll go against the common grain...I believe lying is wrong for any reason, even so-called "white-lies" or "Half-truths". If you lie then you're a liar. To me its that simple. Websters definition of Liar : one that tells lies. It only takes one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 A doctor that gives me a placebo is okay in my book if it works. Outside of that, it's hard to think of when a lie is a good thing. There are however varying degrees of bad on this one. Some of them I wouldn't lose much sleep over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs' Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It is never o.k. to lie. It is o.k. to not volunteer the truth in situations that call for tact, however. your lying I'll go against the common grain...I believe lying is wrong for any reason, even so-called "white-lies" or "Half-truths".If you lie then you're a liar. To me its that simple. Websters definition of Liar : one that tells lies. It only takes one. So are you We all lie....daily probably....just start paying more attention to what you say to people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[BORNAGAIN]] Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 You shouldnt lie, I have lied before, but not anymore now sometimes I just fib, you know I am bornagain, but I am human. Rebecca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSidious Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It take two to lie: One to lie and one to listen. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 The problem with lying is that it creates options for wrong behavior. example: I can do this and if I get "found out" I'll just lie. Make a rule for yourself. I will not lie under any circumstances. To err is human, to lie is practically unforgivable. Don't believe me, ask a woman. Law enforcement Officers are trained observers, to think that you could lie to one is flawed logic. The best thing to say when pulled over is, I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention, and I don't usually drive this poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlk2rn Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 NEVER that is what I say because it always catches up with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 We gotta define "lie"Is embellishing lying? Is a half truth a lie? Or is lying just blatantly saying something that is completely false I'll have to come back to this thread when I have my philosophical hat on and see a few other responses Not hard to define. A lie is anything that either misstates the truth directly, or conceals part of it with the intent of influencing the listener away from the whole truth. With that said, yes, lies are acceptable or even appropriate. If an ugly aquaintance of yours is getting dressed up for a big night out and asks you how they look, do you tell them, "As ugly as usual!"? That would be stupid and actually mean. Most lies, however, aren't told to be kind. Instead, they're told to try to keep our arses out of hot water by avoiding the consequences for our actions. So the simple fact is that most lies are simply not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Lie when the other half'sgorgeous friend asksyou in front of the other half if this dress make her look fat You are screwed either way with this one. Best solution is to start choking on your own saliva so you can run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nostril Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I'm going to say never. Refusing to lie keeps you honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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