So Whats Wrong With Saying Merry Christmas???

[SkinInsite]

I was told by one of my co workers that his sons school, 4th grade, are not allowed to say Merry Chirstmas anymore. This school has even taken out the American flag from the class room. They no longer say the pledge of allengiance anymore. We have become the United States of the offended!

um right

[Henry]

Nelms, you need to put smilies in your posts so we know your joking, or you need to stop posting.

[nelms]

Have you seen their stocks and profit for the year Nelms

So far it looks like the customers dont give a damn.

Do you know how hard it is to find a Walmart in Northern VA, I aint driving to the outskirts of Fairfax city from falls church for a pet issue

Well, it's a moot point now. It's been pointed out to me and also confirmed that Walmart is "encouraging" it's employees to use the term "Happy Holidays" in place of "Merry Christmas". The walls are closing in on me.

This qualifies for another case of ammo, as well as another case of MRE's. Lock and load.

[DarkLadyRaven]

I was told by one of my co workers that his sons school, 4th grade, are not allowed to say Merry Chirstmas anymore. This school has even taken out the American flag from the class room. They no longer say the pledge of allengiance anymore. We have become the United States of the offended!

Every school in FCPS was and to my info still is required to have a picture of the current president and the flag promenatly displayed-- A repub teacher of mine tried to get out of putting up Clintion

[cannonshogs44]

Every school in FCPS was and to my info still is required to have a picture of the current president and the flag promenatly displayed-- A repub teacher of mine tried to get out of putting up Clintion

I was told that they removed the flag because one student did not believe in God and did not want to say the allegiance. Im only one person so Merry Christmas

[Predicto]

I was told by one of my co workers that his sons school, 4th grade, are not allowed to say Merry Chirstmas anymore. This school has even taken out the American flag from the class room. They no longer say the pledge of allengiance anymore. We have become the United States of the offended!

I was told by one of my friends that his wife's sister's uncle met a guy who's coworker's roommate's electrician's friend from high school was fired by Walmart because he said "thank god its Friday" and the Ninth Circuit upheld the ruling too! Which proves that Christians are the most oppressed minority this country has ever seen!

[DarkLadyRaven]

I was told that they removed the flag because one student did not believe in God and did not want to say the allegiance. Im only one person so Merry Christmas

Yes i do remeber that the teacher had trouble getting the students to get thier ass off the seat because thought the practice was required along with the miniute of silience not too many people stood up to do the pledge. I stood up but somewhat mumbled for its like 8 in the moring and I was half asleep. Teacher s have to beg and plead some parents where contracted but the parents mostly replied how they where proud of their children. I would be suprised if teachers said to hell with it

[Kilmer17]

I was told by one of my friends that his wife's sister's uncle met a guy who's coworker's roommate's electrician's friend from high school was fired by Walmart because he said "thank god its Friday" and the Ninth Circuit upheld the ruling too! Which proves that Christians are the most oppressed minority this country has ever seen!

thank you simone.

[nuposse87]

I'm a senior ina FCPS school, we still have the flags, I never heard of them being removed. we don't have Bush's ugly mug in every classroom thankfully(I don't think in any). Most people don't really give a damn about the pledge it seems to me. A lot of my teachers stopped doing the pledge too. I'm a liberal agnostic/muslim and i think its idiotic to censor "merry christmas." How the **** does that offend people? Even though its a little early, Merry Christmas guys, **** the local activists!

[Kilmer17]

An Agnostic Muslim?

Id love to be privy to some of the debate in your head.

[nuposse87]

yah i get confused some time, I;m a walking hypocracy, maybe i should be a politician . I believe in most of the morals of Islam, but some of the things just don't make sense to me (creationism, praying in such a rigid manner, divine intervention etc...) The one big gripe I have with religion in general is that they generally say if you don't believe in them ur gonna go to hell. I know lots of good christians and Jews, they don't deserve to go to hell for reading a different piece of paper (no offense to any die hard believers).

[Henry]

Interesting thread on this topic from a year ago.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85144&page=1&pp=40&highlight=merry+christmas

From my story in that thread. I once saw a nice woman working a register get cussed out by a customer for wishing him a Merry Chirstmas, on Christmas Eve. When I got to the front of the line I told the lady she could wish ME a Merry Christmas even though I'm Jewish.

It's really not a big deal. But it's not a big deal either way. I think some of you are going overboard in the other direction now. There are so many other things to worry about in this life than whether someone says 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays.' Is Christmas really supposed to be a time to get fired up about petty nonsense like this? One of you Christians let me know.

[Bang]

How hard is it to simply be nice to each other anymore.

You did not greet me with a greeting that takes into account my religious and ethnic background! Your greeting is an insult to me! I am gravely offended by your attempt to be nice!

I'm tired of wondering if my greeting will be the proper ethno-religious based greeting, so here's my idea. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut, and any poor sap who feels it necessary to say "Merry Christmas", or "Happy Holidays", or "Happy Hanukah", or anything like that to me, I'll just smile and reply "How about you go **** yourself pal! And take your mother with you!"

And that way, everyone who comes into contact with me can be as miserable as the idiots who dream this junk up.

Merry ***ing December 25th, you dirty #$@!suckers!

~Bang

[Henry]

Bang, that was hilarious.

But not even you can circumvent the filter, though.

[stevenaa]

PCism sucks. Give me a break people. I'm a nearing middle aged white Christian. If a Jewish person wishes me Happy Hannukah, I'll wish it right back. If a black person wishes me a happy Kwanzaa, I'll wish it right back. I'm not the least bit offended, and frankly I enjoy it. This should be a festive season when all should enjoy the beliefs they hold dear. If your busy getting offended over someone elses joy in their beliefs, it's you who has the problem.

[Predicto]

PCism sucks. Give me a break people. I'm a nearing middle aged white Christian. If a Jewish person wishes me Happy Hannukah, I'll wish it right back. If a black person wishes me a happy Kwanzaa, I'll wish it right back. I'm not the least bit offended, and frankly I enjoy it. This should be a festive season when all should enjoy the beliefs they hold dear. If your busy getting offended over someone elses joy in their beliefs, it's you who has the problem.

I thought the people who were getting offended were Jerry Falwell and co., who complain that stores are saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, thus insulting Christians.

Do I have the story wrong?

[herrmag]

Good Lord, now Nelms is going to invade Wal Mart :doh:

Anyone got a link of that video that was posted with the two old men fighting? :laugh: Nelms -vs- Wal Mart Greeter.

.....

:laugh: :notworthy

You've got me laughing out loud at work!

[DeanCollins]

No, just preparing for the war. I'm certainly not going down without a fight.

Not taking the holidays too well I see. You could always vacation in a muslim country till it's over. Avoid all the merrys and the happys, just have to put up with a thousand buts facing north 3 times a day :laugh:

Hey Nelms, aren't you depriving a nice couch somewhere a couple of appointments a month? :gang:

[BlueTalon]

If I were to go to Israel, I would not be offended if someone wished me a happy Hannukah -- I would expect it. In Mexico, if someone said Happy Sinco de Mayo to me, I wouldn't be offended. Ramadan in the Middle East, May Day in Russia, whatever. Not only would I not be offended, it's beyond my comprehension to think that any American would go to one of these places and be offended when someone offers you a cultural greeting from that culture.

So it really bothers me that here in this country, some people insist that we bend over backwards to avoid potentially offending people with our cultural greeting. And I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't have nearly as much to do with the perceived (supposedly) possibility of offending minority groups (who typically aren't offended), as much as it has to do with the people driving the agenda just not liking it themselves.

A comparison can be made between the phrase "Merry Christmas" and the name "Redskins". Both were doing quite nicely, until do-gooders got involved pretending to speak for other people. Do-gooders claimed that native Americans were offended by the Redskins' name and logo, but a closer look revealed that very few native Americans were offended at all, and the insistance that they were offended was based not on any hard evidence but on the suppositions of the do-gooders. I think the same kind of thing is at work regarding "merry Christmas."

[rictus58]

You know, the people who get offended when some says "Merry Christmas" are just as bad as the people who get offended when its changed to "Happy Holidays."

Is it really worth getting offended over? I'd be happy if someone wished me well no matter what. People are too angry in todays climate.

PS- I think the real reason you don't see Happy Hanuka banners in the stores is that people get confused with the 1000 ways its spelled.

Stop being so sensitive everyone.

[frankbones]

PS- I think the real reason you don't see Happy Hanuka banners in the stores is that people get confused with the 1000 ways its spelled.

It should be spelled Chanukah, but you damn Goyim can't pronounce the "CCHHHHH" right. :laugh:

Seriously though, who gives a flying ****? Why are we so divided on inane issues like this? As a Jew, a Christmas tree or saying Merry Christmas doesn't bother me. When I respond "Happy Chanukah" and the person who gave me the nice greeting now looks at me like I'm a space alien, that's offensive.

True story. I went to Ohio State from Rockville/Olney, Maryland when I was 18. So, I went from a pretty diverse area with a strong Jewish population to a less diverse area with not so many Jews. (Though C-bus is pretty diverse, the surrounding areas where a lot of students come from are not)

I was sitting through orientation when they were doing a roll call type of thing. My buddy, who has a "Jewish" name, was called. The person behind us goes, "What are you, a Jew?" We both turn around and said, "Yeah, is that a problem?" His response was, "I though y'all had horns coming out you're head." We about lost it. After cooler heads prevailed, we found out that this kid was from a very rural area and was told by his parent's and classmates(who probably had never met a Jew) that we indeed had horns. It wasn't malicious, just ignorant.

Why am I telling this story? I don't know, it was eye opening for me to say the least. I just don't see how thinking about others is a bad thing. Yes, the majority of this country believes that Jesus was God's son. But there is a different point of view and people dhould be taught to respect it. And any "non-believer" who really gets offended by Merry Christmas, needs to get a life.

This PC crap annoys the hell out of me too, but why concern yourself whether or not a Target/Walmart employee says Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays? All i want is for those MFers to get me through the line quickly w/o having to call for a price check. If they can do that, then they can have a recreation of the Virgin Birth in the parking lot for all I care. Yeah, it kind of gets to me when you are totally bombarded by all these things for a holiday that I don't celebrate, but it really doesn't affect me.

What bothers and affects me is Senators trying to regulate what I can listen to and watch. They met this week to determine whether or not cable and satelite, services I pay for because they have ruined our free broadcasts with their PC crap, should be regulated by the Gov't. All of you that are sick of this "PC Crap", what are your feelings on what the PC police are attempting to do and already have done to our radio and televison?

[Hooper]

A non-story that is consistently brought up by folks who don't want to talk about the important issues out there. Just my two cents.

[DarkLadyRaven]

It should be spelled Chanukah, but you damn Goyim can't pronounce the "CCHHHHH" right. :laugh:

This PC crap annoys the hell out of me too, but why concern yourself whether or not a Target/Walmart employee says Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays? All i want is for those MFers to get me through the line quickly w/o having to call for a price check. If they can do that, then they can have a recreation of the Virgin Birth in the parking lot for all I care. Yeah, it kind of gets to me when you are totally bombarded by all these things for a holiday that I don't celebrate, but it really doesn't affect me.

What bothers and affects me is Senators trying to regulate what I can listen to and watch. They met this week to determine whether or not cable and satelite, services I pay for because they have ruined our free broadcasts with their PC crap, should be regulated by the Gov't. All of you that are sick of this "PC Crap", what are your feelings on what the PC police are attempting to do and already have done to our radio and televison?

PC crap ruining radio and TV. All I ever here from some conservative christians groups like Focus on the Family is that TV is too violent and radio tooo suggestive. They want wholesome bland material which souds like to me they want more PC ness. Which is it for conservatives , too PC and too volient at the same time ?

[nelms]

PC crap ruining radio and TV. All I ever here from some conservative christians groups like Focus on the Family is that TV is too violent and radio tooo suggestive. They want wholesome bland material which souds like to me they want more PC ness. Which is it for conservatives , too PC and too volient at the same time ?

You can't just lay this on conservative Christian groups. Joe Lieberman, Tipper Gore, and Hillary Clinton and her band of liberal crusaders are just as guilty.

[BlueTalon]

PC crap ruining radio and TV. All I ever here from some conservative christians groups like Focus on the Family is that TV is too violent and radio tooo suggestive. They want wholesome bland material which souds like to me they want more PC ness. Which is it for conservatives , too PC and too volient at the same time ?

I think you're confusing the two things. Political correctness and conservative Christian groups are things that typically are not thought of as going together.

It has been a long time since I listened to anything like Focus on the Family, but I've never heard them say that radio is too suggestive. I think their position is that TV is often too violent, and TV also is often too suggestive. It's a perfectly legitimate observation to say that TV producers have been pushing the envelope for decades with violence and sex. Speaking only for myself, as a conservative Christian, I don't care what's on premium channels or pay-per-view. They could do non-stop porn & violence 24/7 for all I care. But there should be an effort to keep the airwaves and basic cable channels cleaner during the hours children are typically awake and viewing TV, rather than the concerted effort being made to see how much more stuff they can get in a program during prime time. IMO.