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Yes, my name is ramsrams, but I'm not a troll.

You can check me out on a site approved by this forum. www.realramsfans.com. Same screen name. They call me a staff writer, actually.

I'll give you my thoughts on the Rams, and maybe some of you can tell me how the Skins shape up.

QB- Harvard grad Ryan Fitzpatrick starts for the Rams. The untested rook turned in a HOF performance in his first start against the hapless Texans. It will be interesting to see the difference a good defence makes.

RB- Steven Jackson is a geat young running back. He's only 22, and still makes bad decisions when hitting the gap. Marshall ain't Marshall anymore, but he can still make guys miss. He'll give you guys fits for two or three plays this game. Madison Hedge**** is an improving fullback, and I'd like to see him involved in the offense more, but Fairchild is a Martz disciple.

TE- Basically a useless position for the Rams. Your safety's and LB's will be freed up to go elsewhere.

WR- Be afwaid, be vewy vewy afwaid. Best group in the NFL. The high priced starters in the Redskins secondary will have their work cut out for them Sunday. If Fitzpatrick can get them the ball.

OL- Orlando Pace will probably miss the game. Rookie Alex Barron will fill in, with former Chicago Bear Guard Rex Tucker going to right tackle. You're LE will have a field day against Tucker. Barron will do OK. Adam Timmerman is broken down and old, and can only make the odd play on a trap. Claude Terrell is a fat guy that needs help in protection and at the end of games.

DL- Portis just needs to cut inside Little and Hargrove. The Rams seem hell bent on rushing their DE's up the field, no matter what the situation. He'll have a big day. Ryan Pickett on the nose is actually playing the best of his career, and it will take two to neutralize him. Damione Lewis and Jimmy Kennedy are first round busts that make up the rest of the line.

LB- Chis Claiborne is benched. The unathletic and slow Trev Faulk starts in his place. Pisa Tinoisamoa is an undersized LB who gives great effort but has no instincts. Dexter Coakley isn't playing like the Cowboy he was a few years ago. Brandon Chillar comes in on passing downs, and has yet to make an impact.

DB- Where to start? The Rams started their fourth and fifth string CB's last week. If Chris Johnson and Ron Bartell start this week, Santana will get 200 yards. There's a possibility that Travis Fisher and DeJuan Groce might return this weekend, but both have been beaten and beat up this year. At safety, Mike Furrey has brought some stability to the free safety slot, but he continues to miss easy tackles. I guess that's to be expected from a guy that's played WR in the NFL for the last three years. At strong safety, Jerome Carter, another rookie, starts in place of the concussed Adam Archuletta. He hasn't proven himself in coverage, either.

Special Teams- Coverage units on the Rams rank in their traditionally low spots. Return units are about the same. The Rams had Terry (it's not ) Fair returning punts and kicks on Sunday. You would be wise to hope for the same this Sunday. Jeff Wilkins is as good as it gets. We call him Money.

Coaching- Joe Vitt drew the obligatory grace period, then was descended upon by the hoards in losses to Seattle and Arizona. The Rams have a very weak defensive staff, and their coordinator, Larry Marmie, is sure to be fired at the end of the season.

The Rams most times play tough at home. With a new QB, who knows how this game will turn out for them? The Skins are in a slump, so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Rams pull out a close victory.

How about your thoughts on your team, and how you think it will turn out?

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You give us an awful lot of credit...One thing you didn't comment on was the true nature of your coaching situation. Is Martz going to cause a fuss or isn't he? He seems to be sticking his nose where the front office doesn't want it. I don't know if that's going to hurt your team or not, but it has potential to cause some damage.

Your receivers against our DBs is the scariest part of this game. You get them going and that opens up Jackson for the kill. Our defensive unit has proven to be either a run-stop team or a pass-stop team. There is no "both" option.

Anyway, appreciate you stopping by and giving your input. I am sure it will be a fun game to watch. Hail to the Redskins!

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I have a feeeling this game will be a lot like the Skins-Bucs game. It could be a back and forth, high scoring affair. A lot will depend on turnovers and whether or not Gregg Williams can blend EFFECTIVE blitzes with coverage schemes that can slow down the Rams' WR's enough to force Fitzpatrick to throw underneath more often.

With these two teams, I don't think time of possesion will be much of a factor unless it becomes extremely one-sided. The biggest factor could be big plays, a thorn in the side of the Skins in most of their losses. If the Skins give up more than one long TD play against the Rams they will lose. If they don't give up the big plays and don't turn the ball over, they win. It's that simple.

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I have a feeeling this game will be a lot like the Skins-Bucs game. It could be a back and forth, high scoring affair. A lot will depend on turnovers and whether or not Gregg Williams can blend EFFECTIVE blitzes with coverage schemes that can slow down the Rams' WR's enough to force Fitzpatrick to throw underneath more often.

With these two teams, I don't think time of possesion will be much of a factor unless it becomes extremely one-sided. The biggest factor could be big plays, a thorn in the side of the Skins in most of their losses. If the Skins give up more than one long TD play against the Rams they will lose. If they don't give up the big plays and don't turn the ball over, they win. It's that simple.

It would seem that EFFECTIVE blitzes for us are the ones where Griffin's in the game. They always have to double team him and it opens lanes for the back seven blitzers. I think Carlos Rogers had his coming out party last week and our secondary should be fine. The Rams have the best starting reciever tandem in the league but the talents drops pretty quickly after that. I don't know if there will be true mismatches which could potentially alter the gameplan in the way there'd be if Harris was starting. Given the QB situation, the play of the Rams o-line this year, having Griffin back and Rogers emerging I think the Rams o (aside from a big play here and there) will have a tough day. Unfortunately, as every week, the Skins offense will probably play down to the level of the Rams D and keep it a close game. Portis and Moss will have plenty of yards but miscues in the red zone will keep us kicking field goals. In the end, the Redskins win on a stellar performance by the D in a close game. (At least I hope, I'm about 50/50 as to wether they win close or find a way to lose painfully close.0

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Wow. Holy crap, you're the anti-homer. That's a pretty objective assessment!

Yeah, I like to tell it like it is. (Howard Cosell not withstanding)

My team has made the playoffs four out of five years, after being the worst team in the nineties along with the Bengals. That's a really impressive record, and the SB victory in 99 topped it off.

I'm a fan of a team that usually makes the playoffs.

I guess its time for a change.

And for the poster that said I'm an "anti homer" of the Rams, you couldn't be more wrong. I've been there as a kid since the Roman Gabriel days. That's a long time ago.

I live and die with them, just as you guys do.

And I've been a happier buck over the last five years than you guys have.

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Yeah, I like to tell it like it is. (Howard Cosell not withstanding)

My team has made the playoffs four out of five years, after being the worst team in the nineties along with the Bengals. That's a really impressive record, and the SB victory in 99 topped it off.

I'm a fan of a team that usually makes the playoffs.

I guess its time for a change.

And for the poster that said I'm an "anti homer" of the Rams, you couldn't be more wrong. I've been there as a kid since the Roman Gabriel days. That's a long time ago.

I live and die with them, just as you guys do.

And I've been a happier buck over the last five years than you guys have.

You sure have been happier than us. I really though it was a shame that Vermeil left you guys when he did. I think he retired a little too quickly and you probably could've had another title if he'd stayed. Martz is insane. Simple as that. He sticks to his guns and he can design an offense but he doesn't seem like a great HC to me. It seems like he's overly obsesseive with his passing game and a lot of other parts of the team end up undermanned and underprepared. What do you think of Martz and who do you think's coaching the Rams next year?

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Im confident we'll win. our secondary is playing extremely well. our run d is playing consistent(ok, LT broke 2 on us but, um, he can do that to any D). our pass rush isnt great but is showing signs of improvement, If we dont shoot ourselves (turnovers, penalties) we should be fine.....offensively we laid an egg against the raiders, but against 2 very good defences, SD&TB I thought our offense looked good,just gotta catch the ball :doh: and please please, if your gonna get a holding penalty could you at least do it in the first minute of the game and not the last minute :doh: ...I feel really good about our chances in winning this game of course I feel that way every week. We typically outplay everyone we play and it always seems to be in our hands to win or lose...1 team has beaten us, the giants. In my opinion our other 5 losses, we beat ourselves. I'm still confident we will win this game and the four after that :D

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Ramrams: You seem like an objective guy, so I was really curious to see what you, as an outsider, think of Gibbs and the way he's going with the Skins. Sometimes it's good to hear what somebody with casual interest thinks because, around here, people are a little emotional and ridiculous.

OK, Ill tell you. I live in Toronto, Canada and have absolutely no biases, except for the Rams winning.

Joe Gibbs was a great coach. The power running game was great in it's time. If that's all you have going for you, though, you're going to be in trouble, now adays.

In my mind, the Redskins actually got lucky. One needs not look longer than the Rams teams during the Chuck Knox era to understand how wrong it can go. The Rams had the best defence and the best power running game, but couldn't win the big one. Why , because they didn't have a QB.

Are Mark Brunnell or Patrick Ramsey SB winning QB's in the new NFL?

I'd suggest they are not, either in the new or old NFL.

That, to me, is Gibb's downfall.

I'm not sure what he could have done about it, though.

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OK, Ill tell you. I live in Toronto, Canada and have absolutely no biases, except for the Rams winning.

Joe Gibbs was a great coach. The power running game was great in it's time. If that's all you have going for you, though, you're going to be in trouble, now adays.

In my mind, the Redskins actually got lucky. One needs not look longer than the Rams teams during the Chuck Knox era to understand how wrong it can go. The Rams had the best defence and the best power running game, but couldn't win the big one. Why , because they didn't have a QB.

Are Mark Brunnell or Patrick Ramsey SB winning QB's in the new NFL?

I'd suggest they are not, either in the new or old NFL.

That, to me, is Gibb's downfall.

I'm not sure what he could have done about it, though.

Well, I know this. Gibbs has won three SBowls with 3 different QBs. Correct me if Im wrong but none of those 3 would ever have been listed with the joe montanas, dan marinos, peyton mannings , But Gibbs had them all do 1 thing the same.....BE SMART. Mark brunell in my opinion is one of the sharpest QBs in the league, and yes I believe he can lead this team to a victory in the SB. He can throw with any QB in the league today. He can amazingly still move around when necessary, and he doesnt throw stupid picks.

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Well, I know this. Gibbs has won three SBowls with 3 different QBs. Correct me if Im wrong but none of those 3 would ever have been listed with the joe montanas, dan marinos, peyton mannings , But Gibbs had them all do 1 thing the same.....BE SMART. Mark brunell in my opinion is one of the sharpest QBs in the league, and yes I believe he can lead this team to a victory in the SB. He can throw with any QB in the league today. He can amazingly still move around when necessary, and he doesnt throw stupid picks.

Yup. And he got those guys at the zenith of their careers. Brunell"s was in Jacksonville, and Ramsey ain't never going to have one.

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Yup. And he got those guys at the zenith of their careers. Brunell"s was in Jacksonville, and Ramsey ain't never going to have one.

Gibbs saw something in Brunell that 6,897,965 people didnt.....and he was right. Im sticking with Gibbs judgement...as far as brunell being in the "zenith of his career", He cant run like he used to, but he can get out of a bad situation and buy time..not to bad considering his age. With that age, comes experience and knowledge.

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Congragualtions ramsrams. You're a model of an ideal fan. Informed, objective, reasonable (I'm sure you have your "other" :D moments) and still love your team in full loyal measure.

I remember Roman Gabriel well, too. And The Four Horsemen (God Bless Rosey Grier and The Deacon). And a pair of Jacks (Hacksaw & Youngblood). And one of the greatest RB's I've ever seen. You share a great tradition as we do, but you have had the more recent glory that we yearn for again.

As for this sunday, What I fear is that we may beat you in most every phase of the game if we play our best, but your receivers will score enough when they need to, particularly with our apparent 4th quarter melt-down tendency to erase even a 14-17 point lead in the end. here's to a good game and no injuries :cheers:

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RB- Steven Jackson is a geat young running back. He's only 22, and still makes bad decisions when hitting the gap. Marshall ain't Marshall anymore, but he can still make guys miss. He'll give you guys fits for two or three plays this game. Madison Hedge**** is an improving fullback, and I'd like to see him involved in the offense more, but Fairchild is a Martz disciple.

This is the guy I wanted before we made the trade for Portis. Unbelievable that he's still only 22. His performance in the Holiday Bowl (I might have botched that) where he rushed for over 200 yards and 5 TD's was flat out awesome.

Overall, that was a very good post. I'm a lot more familiar with the Rams having read that. It should be a great game on Sunday. I'm intrigued to see what we throw at Fitzpatrick seeing as this is his first start. His awareness and ability to read defenses should be greatly beyond the curve for most rookies at this point in the season seeing as he's a Harvard grad (I'm looking forward to being reminded of his alma mater about 15-20 times during the game). We kinda sat back against Orton in his first start, but the Rams are a completely different animal since they obviously possess a much more aggressive scheme than the Bears.

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ramsrams, what is the story behinf this Fitzpatrick kid. Yeah he had a great game against the Texans, but that and a bowl Cambell's chunky soup will get you on the practice squad for most other teams. He is a harvard kid so I am guessing his smarts transfer to the field. Is he a potential late round steal, ala Brady, or just a guy who beat on the Texans? (By the way thanks to his arm I didn't get my free coffee on Mon, that ****)

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Gibbs saw something in Brunell that 6,897,965 people didnt.....and he was right. Im sticking with Gibbs judgement...as far as brunell being in the "zenith of his career", He cant run like he used to, but he can get out of a bad situation and buy time..not to bad considering his age. With that age, comes experience and knowledge.

Hey, keep hoping! That's all we can do. You got Brunell, I've got Fitzpatrick.

The spread is 3, so it shouldn't be a massacre.

Brunell ain't going to take you to a SB though. Just my opinion.

Daniel Snyder ain't going to help, either.

Just went back to my Rams forum. Who the hell is Om? :)

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One of the most intelligible, fair-minded posts I've read in a while, so props to you ramsrams. I think anyone here will tell you that our biggest fear is losing the 4th quarter lead. It seems like no lead is safe, especially against a high-scoring offense like the Rams offense. Having 4th quarter meltdowns has been our problem the last 3 games - our offense gets stuck and our defense allows at least a touchdown or two in the 4th quarter. Doesn't bode well unless we're up by 21 or so going into the 4th quarter (which is pretty unlikely). So I would say that even if you guys are behind going into the 4th quarter, most Redskins fans will be more worried that you should be at that point (sad but true).

Your defense sounds suspect from your description, but our offense is terribly inconsistent. If we can't score on the Raiders, but can put up 35 against the Bucs, who the heck knows what is going to happen come Sunday?

I think it will be a good game for sure. Good luck to your boys, but I hope we crush them.

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ramsrams, what is the story behinf this Fitzpatrick kid. Yeah he had a great game against the Texans, but that and a bowl Cambell's chunky soup will get you on the practice squad for most other teams. He is a harvard kid so I am guessing his smarts transfer to the field. Is he a potential late round steal, ala Brady, or just a guy who beat on the Texans? (By the way thanks to his arm I didn't get my free coffee on Mon, that ****)

I'm disappointed that you didn't get your free coffee.

Well, not really.

It's actually very interesting on Fitzpatrick. The Rams had drafted Jeff Smoker, a Mich grad, in 2004. With Martz's ability to pick QB's, many thought he'd be good.

What you didn't hear was Martz just slamming Smoker in mini camp and, to a lesser extent, in training camp, in 2004. He just crucified a guy who had never played before in the press. I'm not sure if Martz held Smoker to a higher standard because of his ganga thing, but I truly beleive Martz didn't think he'd ever be any good.

Along comes Harvard. A compensetory pick type of guy, one Redskins fans will never have. Mike Martz waxed eloquently about this guy from day one. The end of the seventh round? Who cares? Mike Martz was right, the Kid can play.

You watch.

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I have no doubts about Fitzpatrick. He is a smart Harvard kid. He will be smart enough to throw to the best recievers in the game. Hell I could look good quarterbacking that offense. Has any QB ever looked bad in it?

That is what scares me. However, I think you underestimate Shawn Springs, Sean Taylor, and our own recently emerging rookie phenom (thorpe award winner) Carlos Rogers. Our secondary is tough.

Hopefully our front seven can play well - they have been inconsistent. Last week they looked good though. Brees had his worst game of the season. . . 3 INTs, several sacks, and a meager 50% completion percentage. I don't exactly think Harvard is better than Drew Brees.

Our offense, admittedly, can just stink. They have looked good at times, though. I think the Rams defense will make them look exceptional. They have been able to put up points against stink-o defenses, which the Rams seem to be.

A little known fact - the 'skins are 5-2 in the division. That includes wins over division leaders Seattle, Dallas, and Chicago. We have been looking forward to the stretch of NFC opponenets to finish the season. We can beat conference teams. We haven't beat an AFC opponent all season (or last season either, yikes!), but we own NFC teams. So I am optimistic.

BUT - I won't be surprised if we dominate for 3 quarters and choke in the forth. We've done that too. Here's to a good game. I hope the 'skins win. I'll root for Fitzpatrick after this game though, whats not to like?

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That is what scares me. However, I think you underestimate Shawn Springs, Sean Taylor, and our own recently emerging rookie phenom (thorpe award winner) Carlos Rogers. Our secondary is tough.

Actually, that's what scares me. You've got Shawn Springs, Sean Taylor, and Carlos Rogers. Yes, they've been inconsistent this year, but you have to admit that they have talent. All first rounders, and hyped.

You know what, though, even a rookie QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick will have some success throwing to the likes of Holt and Bruce. Holt is a top three WR in this league, despite his lack of publicity. Ike finally came back to form after injury last game, and will either begin or end his quest for HOF status at this stage of his career. Yes, he's that good. He's the Henry Ellard we won't let you have again.

A previous poster said the Rams drop off in talent after Holt and Bruce. Maybe, a bit. Anyone that has watched Kevin Curtis this year knows he's an explosive player that burns secondaries with his speed. He's still a little bit of a secret, but the guy can flat out play. Check out his stats. They're kind of awsome.

Shawn McDonald is a small, quick guy. He mostly beats you short, but can take it long as well. Witness the great Rams comeback against the Seahawks last year. McDonald beat the Seattle safety on a bomb easily to take it to the house in OT.

Dane Looker is our modern day Ricky Proehl. Need a first down when it matters? Throw it to Looker.

One thing I know after playing and watching football for many years. Good WR's beat good DB's most of the time. The Rams have better WR's than some of you think.

Whether that will be enough to win the game will be another matter.

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