tlk2rn Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 A friend and I were talking the other day about the NFL's greatest quarter back. I think it is Joe Montana and he agreed. Then he said,"you know, when people talk about this no one ever brings up black Q.B.'s." So I will ask you. Who is the greatest black Q.B. and why. I will start off by saying that my greatest is Warren Moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I agree with Moon, and also Cunningham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Vick maybe one day.....right now however: Doug Williams--- had a decent career with lousy teams and took advantage when he had his opportunity with the Redskins. 1 SB ring. 1 SB MVP. Moon and Cunningham would also be in the running. Mcnabb should be considered as well, but I still don't think he'll ever win a SB with the Eagles-- despite having alot of respect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Living in San Francisco, I watched Montana and Young for years without being a fan of either. Steve Young was the best QB I ever saw. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, black players didn't really have the opportunity to play quarterback until recent years, so the pool is limited. Frankly, despite his struggles this year, I would rate Donovan McNabb very very high, as well as Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I'm pleased that we're almost at the stage where this becomes a strange question. I had to really think about who was black and who wasn't, but I do have to go with Cunningham for consistent production. I was very high on Daunte until this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsgoingtosuperbowl Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Tony Banks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Moon then McNair,but Montana was great...but not the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Cordell Stewart! He's like the original michael vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm pleased that we're almost at the stage where this becomes a strange question. I had to really think about who was black and who wasn't, but I do have to go with Cunningham for consistent production. I was very high on Daunte until this year. I agree. "Black QB" to me isn't a significant NFL term anymore....look at the NFL today with Vick, Mcnabb, Culpepper, Batch, Stewart, Wright, Banks, Davies, Mcnair, Campbell etc. etc. When I was growing up, if you saw 3 black QB's in the league that was suprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Cordell Stewart! He's like the original michael vick Does that mean Micheal Vick is going to be punting for the Ravens in a few seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Look you pathetic homers. I know we are all Redskins fans, but there is NO WAY the correct answer is Doug Williams. Warren Moon was ten times the QB Williams was. Look at the freaking career stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 ^:laugh: For real. Doug Williams was a mediocre QB with one year of glory. Nobody saids that Kurt Warner is the best QB ever despite winning one Super Bowl MVP and having what might have been one of the 3 year stretches for a QB in NFL history. Likewise, Doug Williams shouldn't be in consideration for the best black QB ever. McNabb is already better than Williams ever was. Joe Gibbs system made Williams and all the rest of the Redskins QB's with the possible exception of Thiesmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Moon was the best, but McNabb or Culpepper could be the best by the time their career is over. . . as for Vick, no. Gifted athelete, but he'll have a short career, and he'll be similar to Cunningham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scskin Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Andre Ware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 McNabb. He can do it all run pass and buy sometimes seemingly endless time in the pocket. His int to td ratio is very good and he's never had all the weapons. He played one year with TO, the only time he ever had a legit #1 wide out, and finished with a 100+ QB rating. Otherwise he's had a lack luster running game and a gaggle of wide receivers that would be listed 3rd and lower on most teams. If Vick ever learns how to pass he could be the best. But I doubt he'll be in the league long enough to reach that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 McNabb. He can do it all run pass and buy sometimes seemingly endless time in the pocket. His int to td ratio is very good and he's never had all the weapons. He played one year with TO, the only time he ever had a legit #1 wide out, and finished with a 100+ QB rating. Otherwise he's had a lack luster running game and a gaggle of wide receivers that would be listed 3rd and lower on most teams. If Vick ever learns how to pass he could be the best. But I doubt he'll be in the league long enough to reach that point. Why do people **** on Vick just cause he's not the best passer? He wins games and makes things happen. His stats might not be the prettiest but you can't show me one team that wouldn't be thrilled to have him, save the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lamb Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Does that mean Micheal Vick is going to be punting for the Ravens in a few seasons?:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Why do people **** on Vick just cause he's not the best passer? He wins games and makes things happen. His stats might not be the prettiest but you can't show me one team that wouldn't be thrilled to have him, save the Colts.Because eventually something slows him down, be it injury or opposing defense. When that happens he can't reliably throw the ball and the team loses. I'm not saying he's a bad QB, but until he learns to throw the ball effectively and consistently he's got a major hole in his game that other teams will seek to exploit. Also he isn't going to be faster then everyone else forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Why do people **** on Vick just cause he's not the best passer? He wins games and makes things happen. His stats might not be the prettiest but you can't show me one team that wouldn't be thrilled to have him, save the Colts. The Pats, Steelers, Eagles, Chargers, Beangles, Jauguars etc. . . Vick is a QB with mad skills, but he doesn't think quick enough, and he holds onto the ball too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyRules Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm a homer.....Doug Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddogCT Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Moon's Stats, NFL and CFL combined: Comp:9,828 Att:5,738 Yards: 73,333 TD's:463 :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Akili Smith -- with Warren Moon a close 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Warren Moon and it's not close. One of the most underrated players of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I love Doug Williams as much as the next guy, but compared to Cummingham or Moon he didn't do much. I know, i know, he won a superbowl ring. But based on stats alone, Cunningham and Moon are far supperior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 You have to go with Moon. I saw a report where they had computed his throwing yards into miles because he had so many (including his other stinits outside of the NFL).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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