sableholic Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 The zebra have cost us the division lead at this point. The 2pt and the push out calls last week. The two fumbles on that last Oakland drive were obvious, but the first one ticked me off because it was obvious clark had fallen on it. If none of the refs could see that then that entire crew needs to be fired or there needs to be more refs. I encourage Gibbs to complain about these calls.We SHOULD be 7-3 and tied for the division lead, but instead thanks to the idiots in the striped shirts we are 5-5 and fighting for our playoff lives. We have not played the last seven weeks to deserve the 2-5 record we have over that time. I was hoping that if we won out at home and pulled out a game on the road we could get the division, that is no longer the case. We MUST beat the chargers next week, we CANT get upset by st. louis and arizona. We Must win the last three games. Basically, I think that the Redskins have to win out to make the playoffs. ... that was clarks fault for not keeping that ball. Happens all the time. not the refs fault. And that Jordan one at the goalline was not a fumble. Last week we had legit claims, this week we have only ourselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_trizzy Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Stop with the refs already. Clark didn't recover that ball and there was nothing that showed me Jordan fumbled before going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cry: Bottom line: When the Skins have played well, they've won. When they've not played well, or made too many mistakes ... they've lost. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 This game is not the refs fault. This game is on us. Every game is on us. WE don't dominate unless the team is named the 49ers. Look back. Look at all of our wins and losses. Look at all of our turnovers. Stop blaming the refs cause its chicken ****. We may have gotten the short end of the stick several times but If we would just win games outright, these calls wouldn't matter. The problem is, we can't win games outright. We give up big plays all the time. Like when Shawn springs dropped off his man and Taylor started going to the other reveiver. Like no one picking up Jordan on the flat. Guess what, EVRYONE in this league is savy to greg williams system and they know how to beat it now. Time for new defensive schemes. This is stupid. His sytem only works when the QB is sacked or hurried. None of this happens. WE arent forcing the QBs to do anything wrong. THIS GAME IS ON US! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fox Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Stick a fork in us, this team is done for the year. What a bummer. but until we stop being so consevitive we will be out of the race. This game was over when Gibbs did not go for 4th and 1/2 at the 40 in the very first part of the 1st Qt. That would have set the tone for a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 The zebra have cost us the division lead at this point. The 2pt and the push out calls last week. The two fumbles on that last Oakland drive were obvious, but the first one ticked me off because it was obvious clark had fallen on it. If none of the refs could see that then that entire crew needs to be fired or there needs to be more refs. I encourage Gibbs to complain about these calls.We SHOULD be 7-3 and tied for the division lead, but instead thanks to the idiots in the striped shirts we are 5-5 and fighting for our playoff lives. We have not played the last seven weeks to deserve the 2-5 record we have over that time. I was hoping that if we won out at home and pulled out a game on the road we could get the division, that is no longer the case. We MUST beat the chargers next week, we CANT get upset by st. louis and arizona. We Must win the last three games. Basically, I think that the Redskins have to win out to make the playoffs. Officiating has been putrid... But the Skins must love pain becasue they love to rely on their calls week in and week out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 if we get the clark fumble, the way portis was running, we could have run the clock down and at least had a chance. I agree with your assessment except for Gibbs wasn't using Portis in the second half. See the thread about play-calling to see my thoughts on our 2nd half drives. We showed nothing offensively to give you any confidence that the "fumble" would have changed the outcome of the game. At best, we go to OT and let them beat us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timitim Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 If we would just win games outright, these calls wouldn't matter. You said it right there. A lot of people think that the games have come down to just one play. The fact is it doesn't. We could have played alot better and calls the refs make shouldn't matter that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddsims Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Good points, playoff teams score more than 13 at home with everything on the line against a suspect D. We are a bottom dweller in the division. We are what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Good points, playoff teams score more than 13 at home with everything on the line against a suspect D. We are a bottom dweller in the division. We are what we are. Exactly, we always seem to play down to the level of our competition, and it is killing us. We can never put a team away when we should. Today we should have been up at least 14-3 at one point and then 20-10, but no we screw up to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Good points, playoff teams score more than 13 at home with everything on the line against a suspect D. We are a bottom dweller in the division. We are what we are. Washington Catfish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Whether its turnovers, the offense or the defense, this team consistently finds ways to beat themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Maybe if he would have turned into Jerome from Southeast that moved to Manasses he would have held onto the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 i pray that portis worries more about holding on to the ball instead of his costume :doh: this is the first game he's fumbled all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Sorry for questioning your infinite wisdom Bubba.You are SO smart in your nonstop complaints about officiating. Jacobs held. Was it ticky tack? Probably, but he WAS holding. When you're outside like that and you're blocking a man right where the play is going, the officials are obviously going to be looking at you a lot harder. No, you are wrong. Jacobs was not holding...no more than the 1000 holds I saw by Oaklands' offensive line. It was a garbage call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsmooth Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Ok, last week against the Buccaneers, it appears that Alstott did make it in, i'll give ya that! However, after seeing the replay of Lamont Jordan's fumble over and over and over again, (You get the message), why would'nt the refs look at the replay for themselves? Everybody saw it including the Raiders! The 12th man and the Redskins made it quite obvious. What have we done to the refs to get these bad calls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 it was non reviewable, he was down by contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSneed36 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Ok, last week against the Buccaneers, it appears that Alstott did make it in, i'll give ya that! However, after seeing the replay of Lamont Jordan's fumble over and over and over again, (You get the message), why would'nt the refs look at the replay for themselves? Everybody saw it including the Raiders! The 12th man and the Redskins made it quite obvious. What have we done to the refs to get these bad calls? You got it backwards. Last week Alstott was stopped, but that wasnt a fumble from Jordan. He was stopped for awhile before he started reaching for the goal line and pretty much set the ball on the ground, i couldnt see calling that a fumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Raider Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Wow the irony of this... Trust me, no team has lost more heartbreakers at the hands of the refs than the Raiders, the phantom PI call on Moss against KC, then the bs trippin call against KC, the tuck of course, Siragusa's flop on Gannon, I could go on for days. Trust me, if you feel like the refs screw you then stroll on down to Raiderfans.net(cheap plug:laugh:.) and search for "screwed" and "refs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForOldDC21 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 the refs didnt make our offense suck... but some terrible calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 um...what about that super suspect pass interferance call against the raiders when the safety almost intercepted the ball. that was total BS...even though i'm a skins fan. it all came back around when we fumbled on the next play. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Raider Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 um...what about that super suspect pass interferance call against the raiders when the safety almost intercepted the ball. that was total BS...even though i'm a skins fan. it all came back around when we fumbled on the next play. :laugh: Exactly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO GO SKINS Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Don't look for the REFS to win games for you. Play football and win for yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gex Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 if we were a better team, we wouldn't have to worry about the refs!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 we were against ourselves today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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