stwasm Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051117 The Dick Vermeil-Mike Martz-Al Saunders "Greatest Show On Turf and Grass" offense is dying the same death as the Run-'n'-Shoot. Defensive coordinators figured out a couple of years ago the best way to diffuse the offense is to relentlessly hit the quarterback. Kurt Warner and Trent Green -- aka David Klingler and Andre Ware -- were never awesome talents. They were programmed to run the plays called from the sideline and throw to a spot on the field. They rarely improvised. The Greatest Show works wonderfully when the QB has perfect pass protection and can throw in rhythm to a predetermined spot on the field. Now that putting the quarterback on the ground has been demonstrated to be the best way to defend it, the Greatest Show has been short-circuited. The Show will at some point break down in critical situations and the battered and bruised QB will make a gigantic mistake. Green, an intelligent veteran, has been frustrated in KC with his inability to audible at the line of scrimmage the way Peyton Manning and Tom Brady often do. Giants coach Tom Coughlin has read too many of his own and Eli Manning's press clippings. It looks like Coughlin wants to shake the rap that he's just another Marty Schottenheimer, an offensively conservative head coach. Coughlin is determined to prove that he's an "offensive guru" who developed the younger Manning into the next Peyton Manning. Playing the Minnesota Vikings inside Giants Stadium, there's absolutely no reason to throw the ball 48 times in a game in which your team never trailed by more than eight points. When you consider that the Giants' offensive line controlled the line of scrimmage and Tiki Barber was red hot, it's even more inexcusable that Coughlin let Manning throw the game away with four interceptions. We've all fallen in love with Eli too quickly. He's completing just 51 percent of his passes. Bill Parcells is an all-time great coach, but what makes Bill Belichick a cut above Parcells is Belichick's ability to adjust inside a game. Parcells and the Cowboys beat the Eagles on "Monday Night Football" primarily because of Parcells' stubbornness. He stood on the Dallas sideline for three hours and just waited for Andy Reid and the Eagles to do something stupid. Reid and Donovan McNabb eventually put a smile on Parcells' face. However, until McNabb's gift pick-six, Parcells looked clueless. Jeremiah Trotter and the Eagles totally shut down Dallas' running game, and Parcells had no Plan B for attacking Philly's D. The Cowboys called the same running plays over and over again. Dallas beat Philly with three offensive plays -- a 58-yard bomb to Peerless Price, a 26-yard run by Marion Barber and a 20-yard TD pass to Terry Glenn. The Cowboys never sustained anything all night and never adjusted their offensive attack. Stubbornness is what makes Parcells great. It's also what separates him from the best coach of the modern era. There's nothing worse than a player's lying on the field with an injury after making a mistake that cost his team the game. I have a great deal of respect for Donovan McNabb. Love the way he's handled the way the T.O. controversy. Believe he's one of the three best quarterbacks in the game. And I would never question McNabb's toughness. But I wish McNabb had gutted it out and walked off the field after throwing that late interception. You see, McNabb's groin didn't stop him from moonwalking in the end zone after scoring a touchdown. But when Roy Williams scored late, McNabb had to limp to the sideline after kneeling on the field for several seconds. Disappointing. FYI: Mike McMahon will do fine filling in for McNabb. McMahon is a good athlete and is better than at least seven or eight starting quarterbacks in the league named Frerotte, Orton, Boller, Johnson (Brad), Bollinger, Dilfer, Carr and Pickett. The Carolina Panthers are beginning to look like the team Sports Illustrated predicted to win the Super Bowl. Defensive coordinator Mike Trgovac deserves a lot credit for the turnaround. Trgo, a nose tackle at Michigan in the late '70s and early '80s, is the Alex Gibbs of defensive linemen. The Panthers' resurgence is a product of Julius Peppers, Mike Rucker, Brentson Buckner and Jordan Carstens' dominating the line of scrimmage. Carstens has been the surprise element. He replaced all-world tackle Kris Jenkins, who suffered a season-ending injury early. Carstens is starting to play like a Pro Bowler in the middle, which has made Peppers and Rucker better on the outside. Trgo is the guru of defensive-line play and should start getting some head-coaching attention this offseason. Joe Gibbs and Gregg Williams' problem with LaVar Arrington could best be seen on Mike Alstott's alleged one-yard, two-point conversion plunge. Arrington, Washington's first-down linebacker, tried for a SportsCenter moment rather than a basic tackle on Alstott's run. Arrington left his feet, dived at Alstott and totally whiffed. Had Arrington simply stepped into the gap, lowered his shoulder, dropped his hips and exploded, the Redskins would've won the game. Even though I hate the way the NFL has outlawed physical play between corners and receivers, the new emphasis on freeing receivers has brought the undersized, shifty and very exciting receiver back into the game. Santana Moss, Steve Smith, Terry Glenn, Hines Ward and Deion Branch are all enjoying Marvin Harrison-type years thanks to the renewed emphasis on calling illegal contact. Plus, small receivers don't seem to be as unlikable as Terrell Owens, Randy Moss and Keyshawn Johnson (although I do find the Bill Parcells-Dallas Cowboys version of Me-shawn far more tolerable than the younger Me-shawn). Jack Del Rio's immaturity might get in the way of the Jaguars' taking advantage of an easy schedule and getting into the playoffs. Football teams truly are a reflection of their head coach. Del Rio has yet to learn how to carry himself like a true professional. He's embroiled himself in a silly feud with a Jacksonville sports writer, Vito Stellino, who has shown the audacity to avoid kissing Del Rio's pinky ring. Besides turning Stellino into a local star, Del Rio has all but guaranteed that his collection of young, talented players will worry more about what is written about them in the newspaper than focusing on taking care of business on the field. Coaches make huge mistakes when they allow members of the media to rent space inside their head. Vito Stellino will be rearranging furniture inside Del Rio's noggin for the rest of the season. Brian Urlacher deserves Defensive Player of the Year. Lovie Smith deserves Coach of the Year. But let's keep in mind that the Bears' five-game winning streak has featured victories over the just-off-the-Love Boat Vikings, the Ravens, the Lions, the Saints and the 49ers. Wake me when the Bears beat USC in the Rose Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I'm confused, is it then Lavar's fault the refs blew 2 freakin calls at the end of the game. Whitlock's a moron, the issue isn't Lavar attempting a big hit, it's the terrible officiating, just when I thought I'd gotten past this, well.........I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rad Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I disagree with this guy. Lavar himself said that he antipated Alstott diving over the top the way he had the last two plays and wanted to take that possiblity out of the equation. Lavar is a player who plays on instinct, I doubt he calculates beforehand whether what he does will end up on Sportscenter microseconds before he does it. With Lavar covering on the top and our linemen covering Alstott on the ground, we were able to stop them. So what if the refs blew the call - the Defensive, including Lavar, won on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Isn't this the same guy that was clamoring for Lavar to be on the field on all downs just last week? What a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 That leap was #1 called for after Alstott had scored twice over the pack earlier in the game. And #2 I would imagine Williams asked him to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I believe there were 10 other guys on the field that could not have possibly thought the ball was going anywhere else. Don't blame LA for trying to make a play based on something that was taken advantage of by the enemy earlier in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted November 17, 2005 Author Share Posted November 17, 2005 Isn't this the same guy that was clamoring for Lavar to be on the field on all downs just last week? What a tool. As always.... consider the source. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeRedskins Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 wait, I thought the Skins did stop alstott from reaching the endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Well, in his defense, he still alludes to the fact that Alstott didn't cross the plane. Maybe he's just saying that it wouldn't have been close enough to come down to a replay if Arrington tried to just make the tackle. I'm not sure if I agree with him or not...however, this is something that's bothered me about our defense for the past few weeks...we always seem to try to knock someone out instead of tackle them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Whats funny is that if lavar would have went low and alstott would have gone over the top, that sentence would read the same, but say that lavar should ahve used instinct and went up top also. And with all that he still didnt get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Parcells and the Cowboys beat the Eagles on "Monday Night Football" primarily because of Parcells' stubbornness. He stood on the Dallas sideline for three hours and just waited for Andy Reid and the Eagles to do something stupid. Reid and Donovan McNabb eventually put a smile on Parcells' face. :laugh: Now, THAT'S funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 There's nothing worse than a player's lying on the field with an injury after making a mistake that cost his team the game.I have a great deal of respect for Donovan McNabb. Love the way he's handled the way the T.O. controversy. Believe he's one of the three best quarterbacks in the game. And I would never question McNabb's toughness. But I wish McNabb had gutted it out and walked off the field after throwing that late interception. You see, McNabb's groin didn't stop him from moonwalking in the end zone after scoring a touchdown. But when Roy Williams scored late, McNabb had to limp to the sideline after kneeling on the field for several seconds. Disappointing. :laugh: I thought I was the only one who thought that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The extremist Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051117Defensive coordinators figured out a couple of years ago the best way to diffuse the offense is to relentlessly hit the quarterback. Kurt Warner and Trent Green -- aka David Klingler and Andre Ware -- were never awesome talents. They were programmed to run the plays called from the sideline and throw to a spot on the field. They rarely improvised. The Greatest Show works wonderfully when the QB has perfect pass protection and can throw in rhythm to a predetermined spot on the field. Now that putting the quarterback on the ground has been demonstrated to be the best way to defend it, the Greatest Show has been short-circuited. The Show will at some point break down in critical situations and the battered and bruised QB will make a gigantic mistake. first of all, i thought it was crappy, porous defensive line schemes, and secondaries that couldn't guard an old lady in a wheelchair that is leading to the downfall of the Chiefs/Rams.... Fatlock's analysis is flawed...Hitting/sacking the QB on a regular basis will sooner or later disrupt ANY passing game...It doesn't matter if you're Kurt Warner or Joe Montana, if the defense is in your face on every play, the odds will be stacked against you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 The problem with that lavar had to get to him If Lavar is on one side of the pile and Alstot on the other then theres only one way to tackle him that ust shows the medias hate for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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