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I recommend reading his praise of the Khmer Rouge, whitewash of their atrocities and his subsequent denial thereof and assignation of blame on US bombing for the evils of the Killing Fields.

Or you can read up on his praise of the revolution in North Vietnam.

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You obviously loved his BS too :laugh:

I think Liberty is smart enough to see his faults ;) or I hope.

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I saw a video version of Manufacturing Consent, and, I have to say it left me feeling that Chomsky gets a very bad rep and doesn't really deserve all of it. He made a very compelling argument, and at the very least he should be recognized for being so incredibly intelligent.

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I saw a video version of Manufacturing Consent, and, I have to say it left me feeling that Chomsky gets a very bad rep and doesn't really deserve all of it. He made a very compelling argument, and at the very least he should be recognized for being so incredibly intelligent.

He deserves the bad rep. He is very smart and capable of making good valid points, but he seems to be just as likely to be intellectually dishonest. He has a anti-US tilt that I find seriously annoying, blowing up the US wrongs and down-playing the wrongs of others constantly.

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If an outspoken university professor proclaimed that the Jewish holocaust never happened, and that America was responsible for WWII, would he be merely "intellectually dishonest"?

The Khmer Rouge were every bit as evil (and perhaps more so in some ways) as the Nazis. They slaughtered over a million people for "crimes" like wearing eyeglasses or being able to speak a second language (anything that could be taken as a sign of intelligence made that person a risk to their dreams of a purely agrarian society). For Chomsky to continually insist in the face of undeniable evidence that such a brutal slaughter never took place is inexcusable, and puts him squarely in the same category as any holocaust denier.

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I've been reading Chomsky for a long time, and I have to say nowhere have I read Chomsky deny the genocide that took place in Cambodia. I've seen things Chomsky has said taken out of context regarding the issue, and thats about it.

I've actually had a chance to look at the anti-Chomsky reader and it is really hard to believe the amount of lies that were within it, and things taken out of context. Anyone who's actually read Chomsky or listened to him know for a fact most of the things people say about him are complete bs.

Back to the apparent whitewashing and support of the Khmer Rouge Chomsky had.. can anyone point me to a writing where he directly said he supported Pol Pot? Please nothing wrote by a fanatical U.S. Gov't apologist who took a quote out of context, or someone just coming up with things out of thin air.

As a matter of fact if you watch Manufacturing Consent they go into detail about this whole subject.

Recommended Chomsky Reading:

Manufacturing Consent, Imperial Ambitions, Hegemony or Survival, and probably the best intoduction to his views, in my opinion - Understanding Power.

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He deserves the bad rep. He is very smart and capable of making good valid points, but he seems to be just as likely to be intellectually dishonest. He has a anti-US tilt that I find seriously annoying, blowing up the US wrongs and down-playing the wrongs of others constantly.

Thank you. Few educated people believe this.

Being a psychology major, I've been introduced to Chomskey. And frankly some of his theories are actually quite interesting. At least those in the realm of psychology. Things like memory and such.

Its when he goes off on his socio/political rants that I completely lose respect for him. Basically he is an American-hating socialist. I usually discount whatever he says. In fact, if I can do the opposite, I usually will.

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My stance on Chomsky has softened up over the last year.

However, a couple things about Chomsky bother me

1. He tends to have a black and white view of the Cold War. While I agree with a great deal (if not most of it) of his criticism of America's role in the Cold War, he downplayed Soviet Aggression and praised Maoist movements. However, he wasn't and is not alone. He often fails to see context. Now in all fairness, he is no different than Murray Rothbard (a libertarian who I admire- from a cautious distance) who at times is maddening and at times brilliant.

2. Portrays himself as an anarchist, but the truth is he is a Marxist (and that's fine- Marxists have many insightful things to day). Some left-anarchists have rightfully scolded him for this.

3. Chomsky's failure to draw the logical conclusions from his own arguments. His criticism of corporatism/the current system is brilliant and unlike many leftists he understands the difference between crony capitalism and laissez faire (that probably has to do with the fact that at one time his work was only published in libertarian publications). He understands that much of so called "progressive" regulation can further entrench corporate interests. He also understands the link between big government and big business. The state is the vehicle of the ruling class. In other words, his analysis is often spot on. My beef with him is his solutions, which is more government (a Marxian prescription).

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I actually think he's an excellent writer. I just hate his views (and him actually) with the fire hot intensity of a billion suns.

Hegemony or Survival would top my list.

But you should heed Destino's warning of him. He is absolutely intellectually dishonest.

And temper any reading of his with an equal nutjob on the right.

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There really are no extreme right wingers that could be considered anywhere near intellectual, definitely not Coulter, or anyone similar. I guess some would say Rand is a right wing extremist intellectual, but I don't consider her a nut job, or a right winger for that matter.

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there are NO similar nutjobs on the right- who are also tenured professors and put forth as "best philosopher" of the country like Chomsky is...

I think you are not giving the right any credit for having brains, because there are certainly similar nutjobs equal to Chomsky in terms of ideological ranting.

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There really are no extreme right wingers that could be considered anywhere near intellectual, definitely not Coulter, or anyone similar. I guess some would say Rand is a right wing extremist intellectual, but I don't consider her a nut job, or a right winger for that matter.

Maybe not extreme, but William Buckley is certainly in the same intellectual caliber, though I find his writing to be annoyingly pointless at times.

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